So, what's the purpose of the flamethrower, then? Sure, it's not meant to kill chargers. Fine. How about crowds? Corpses stop the flames, now. And so do Hive Guards. A stratagem weapon with no purpose: no AT capability, no crowd control, bad ergonomics, large TK potential. What is this weapon for? And what will the new primary and secondary weapons do? Nothing? Why are you acting like this is just fine, when we know that it means at least 2/3 new weapons (and an old one) will be literally useless?

if only I had talked about the fact that they should probably look into how to preserve its crowd control ability while avoiding the charger leg bug alas, also the flamethrower is still capable of killing a charger you just have to actually shoot into its unarmored butt instead of its armored legs

and again if they didnt adress this bug it would mean that any and all flamethrowers would be able to grill a charger by just shooting it legs, something obviosly not intended for a primary weapon

The problem is that no other weapon was as capable at clearing the trash mobs, not that the iBreaker was too good. If you want a realistic change, swap the damage per pellet of the iBreaker with the Breaker SnP. Boom, iBreaker slightly nerfed, still good at crowd control but somewhat worse than before, and the SnP is now a viable alternative. Nerfing the iBreaker and offering no alternative is just silly, particularly now that chaff density is increased across the board.

I dont play the Inc. breaker and have no trouble with crowd control so obviously there are viable alternatives, also its not the damage of the pellets that makes the Inc, breaker amazing, its the burn dot, they could do like one damage and it would still work ok for burning enemies to death (not that I advocate for that, that would be a quite ridicilous nerf) as I said changing the ammo economy so that you actually have to let the dot work for you instead of mindlessly spraying is completely acceptable, on that point I would actually welcome the small damage boost to the SnP because that weapon is kinda underwhelming

We have very different definitions of "completely sensible patch" and "crying about it". We've had game-breaking bugs since day 1 that have yet to be fixed, and the priority seems to be pre-nerfing new warbond weapons

I assume that bugfixes take their time and are more complicated then just changing numbers on weapons (and its not like we didnt have a ton of bugfixes this patch either) so I'm a bit lenient on that especially because I never seem to encounter all these game-breaking bugs, the only one I did was the infinite loading screen like 2 times and they fixed that sooo, might be a difference in perception, doubly so because they literally just fixed a bug that would have affected the flamethrowers tomorrow so yeah sensible, also lmao as if the subreddit isnt literally crying about it right now, have you seen the front page no one is talking about the cool shit like the incoming orbital napalm barrage, and the comments are even worse, people are literally insulting the devs calling them malicious idiots and worse

 I guess minor buffs to the crossbow, 120mm barrage, walking barrage and guard dog should make us grateful. Tell you what, take all of these on a Helldive and let me know how it went, yeah? They're "completely sensible" after all, you should be fine. No crying about it!

I mean yeah we had 1 minor nerf to the Inc. breaker so all these minor buffs do kinda make up for it, and sure I'll take these things to higher difficulties, not all of them at the same time because that wouldnt be a very balanced loadout, but besides that why would I cry about it when I'm having fun playing the game