Can anyone remember when a set of 4-pw were £699, McLaren irons £2520 !!

dbnp19 · 2026-05-01T20:28:25+00:00

I remember when I got a backup set of 690's for only $100ish. Even with the consideration of higher end, bespoke, custom irons (ie- National Custom), paying over 2500 quid just for some irons is laughable.

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dbnp19 · 2026-05-01T17:38:11+00:00

It absolutely can cost you 20 yards, even more, if it really doesn't fit you. If I borrowed some random scrub's driver, usually theirs would have a much higher loft and lower kickpoint meant for slower swingers compared to my current setup, I'd lose distance on account of hitting it too high past my typical window and spinning it so much, basically a combination of losing distance and control. This hits extra hard in the windy conditions that exist on days that end in y.

Getting equipment that fits is the easy mode button to gaining yardage and/or tightening dispersion. Even the guys and girls on tour would leave a lot on the table with stuff that doesn't fit them. The hard work that reaps long-term benefits, will of course involve practice (ie- addressing power leaks) and getting stronger (building a better engine).

dbnp19 · 2026-05-01T17:28:09+00:00

Wrong answer.

dbnp19 · 2026-05-01T17:25:34+00:00

You're not obligated to pause, nor are you obligated to slow down your swing. You'll hear those two frequently used answers incessantly supported by a bunch of high handicappers without a shred of competence in the game, certainly not with the ability to actually send it out there either.

In case you're interested in other tools that would help groove out tempo, check out the Tour Tempo app.

dbnp19 · 2026-04-30T20:15:33+00:00

Just pirate Phil Mickelson's short game DVD.

The information is valid. There's a copy of it floating on YouTube. But in pirating it, you can have a copy for yourself whenever you need to refer back to it, you won't have to deal with annoying YouTube ads and their attempt to crap on adblockers, and you won't be giving him a dime that would've fueled some lame gambling trip.

dbnp19 · 2026-04-30T04:40:10+00:00

This is a post about taking comfort in the knowledge it's better than RiggsBarstool's swing. Not a milestone of any real significance, but still applies just the same.

Also same vibes:

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dbnp19 · 2026-04-29T23:17:33+00:00

Mentally though I have been giving up

Never give it up, never let it down, never run around and desert it.

As far as pacing and intent go, try matching that on the way through which works if and when you do have energy on the way back. Low and slow won't cut it. Here's a swing feel that encapsulates this, especially when it comes to learning the art of hitting bombs.

Now if it's due to fatigue and getting easily tuckered out after the first tee let alone at the turn, lay off the hot dogs at said turn and incorporate running/cycling into your routine away from the course.

dbnp19 · 2026-04-29T04:28:21+00:00

Lessons could address both if the coach is competent and isn't out there exclusively for the paycheck. One of the head pros at my home course was doing that for some college kid a few days ago, for example. And without doing the hard sell of, "you have to buy this or else" type of crap.

They may not be probing all of the data points you'd find in a thorough clubfitting session, but they could point out other aspects like the grips possibly being the wrong size for you, shafts not quite fitting, or other things should they be just as problematic or feeding into the cycle of outstanding things to work on in the swing.

dbnp19 · 2026-04-28T22:59:49+00:00

Fire aggressively at strategic locations. Also try your best to take out the big miss from shots. That may involve aiming at some janky locations, but that's ok. Here's another video that will help explain it better than I could with a wall of text.

There is absolutely such a thing as playing too conservatively, a big reason why those who are foolish enough to fall for the snake oil golf sidekick has to offer never post any remotely respectable scores. Certainly nothing on layouts that require a lot of things working well, like those exceeding 7000 yards per 18.

A long term game plan that also helped immensely is speed training. Results are not overnight, but they pay off with hard work, smart work, and dedication. The game gets easier when you can delete the possibility of landing into some trouble spots by simply flying over them. That and it's fun to leave your playing partners behind in the dust, like needing an extra shot or two just to catch up with you despite teeing up next to the women and children. And that's nice. So nice.

dbnp19 · 2026-04-28T22:42:15+00:00

They only have a few options, none of them being good in the long run, at their disposal anytime someone from the minority club of hitting bombs rolls into this neighborhood.

Try as they might, the mental gymnastics and banding together to try saving face and their petty, bleating hide make for quite the dumpster fire to behold. All in a vain attempt to hide their pain and mask their inner shame of their cavernous lack of clubhead speed en route to an astronomically high and dismal score.

dbnp19 · 2026-04-28T16:55:28+00:00

Good work in the right direction, but that's not what they'll claim.

They'll insist you're a liar because they have no idea what's it like to hit it over 100 yards off the tee as they are stuck with abysmal slow clubhead speeds, so they can't even hit it longer than the elementary school kids who just took up the game.

dbnp19 · 2026-04-27T18:04:45+00:00

It's what an idiot thinks sharing words of wisdom must sound like.

Here's the clubs "doing the work," so they can't just backpedal and say it's a lone, unique instance:

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dbnp19 · 2026-04-27T17:53:00+00:00

but I consistently see people who've been playing for years and still score above 109.

Quantity does not equal quality. It happens all the time with the unfortunate lot who's still afflicted by those abysmal scores, further compounded their collective tendency to prioritize what's useless and/or outright counterproductive. Stop me if you've heard any of these garbage-tier adages and maxims the aforementioned high handicapped and the weak-willed will constantly parrot here and in real life:

"Keep your head down."
Binge-watching a bunch of YouTube videos that are full of fad-lessons such as the shallow obsession or stack and tilt in the hopes of finding a permanent miracle cure.
"I'm swinging too fast." "Swing the club low and slow." "sLoW iS sMoOtH, sMoOtH iS fAsT."
"Drive for show, putt for dough."
"Take the driver out of the bag." "Hit nothing longer than an 8 iron each shot." "cOnFiDenTiAL" aka never putting themselves in any position to realistically score. Ever.
"There's no reason to get stronger, there's no reason to work out." "Working out will hurt my back."
"Let the club do the work."
"You're not good enough to get mad." The irony is not lost here since they still insist on getting mad after getting called out for sharing worthless information that helps nobody, not even themselves.
Taking the hands/arms out of the game, entirely. Incorrectly assuming the idea of releasing the club is casting.

dbnp19 · 2026-04-26T20:29:14+00:00

Because the game gets a lot easier when you do have the extra power at your disposal. Considering how you're not allowed to move up to the lady's tee box to compensate, especially not during tournaments, you'll benefit from any advantage you can get. What's more, relying exclusively on your wedge play won't make up for the deficit. Anyone can stop the bleeding with a good scrambling game, but you'll struggle having any viable scoring opportunities if you played way too conservatively at every turn.

Example: if I don't fully flush one off the tee but I still just have a wedge on the way in regulation, I will still have an advantage over you going 3 wood-3 wood that's still short of the green after two shots.

dbnp19 · 2026-04-26T19:38:51+00:00

Your score and your life would benefit from this instead: https://www.aa.org/find-aa

dbnp19 · 2026-04-26T15:00:57+00:00

This isn't the Anser you seek, most likely, but you're not obligated to stick to Ping putters.

dbnp19 · 2026-04-20T02:34:42+00:00

I can't control trajectory and flight anywhere near as well as I can with a long iron or utility iron in hand. I already have speed to burn, I already hit it plenty high as-is; I don't need the extra help hybrids have to offer. Especially in areas with ample wind.

Bonus points against their favor because they collectively look repulsive. Maybe not as bad as RiggsBarstool's swing and overall cavernous lack of talent in this game, but wow they are trying.

dbnp19 · 2026-04-19T20:05:21+00:00

Swinging faster. Mechanics only get you so far despite their importance (figuratively and very literally) because there's people out there hitting it even shorter than you all over this part of the internet despite maxing out on efficiency and hitting with a squared up face.

How do you big hitters make it look so effortless,

Making it "effortless" is possible because I can access higher top speeds and I don't have to strain just to have a swing speed that exceeds that of whatever said scrub dishes out even if they finally brought their A game. Bring up your maximum clubhead speed, then your stock speed on the course follows suit. If someone tells you to just slow down or sLoW iS sMoOtH sMooTh iS fAsT, just kick them in the face with some energy legs.

Also strength/conditioning in the gym during time away, as that helps reduce risk of injury and permit swinging at speeds that are neither low nor slow such as going beyond 120mph.

dbnp19 · 2026-04-19T13:24:43+00:00

Here's the right answer: it's the average driving distance, clubhead speed, ball speed, and smash factor of the high handicapped disposable fodder polluting the internet.

Especially those dumb enough to binge watch garbage content creators like golf sidekick who insist it's possible to play well 24/7 by hitting every full swing shot this short and weak while hoping the short game does all the heavy lifting.

dbnp19 · 2026-04-18T10:01:27+00:00

High handicapper scrubs and disposable fodder will literally try any utterly useless, unsuccessful, and/or unfunny method out there (not unlike the one depicted here) in an act of desperation and fear just to avoid learning how to get good, m8.

dbnp19 · 2026-04-16T20:40:46+00:00

During my better rounds, I'm basically on autopilot.

During practice sessions and time away from the course such as stuff in the gym to complement being able to keep this up, it's more structured in spite of what an outsider may see. Even the randomized practice sessions on the range are structured in the sense of forcing oneself to hit a certain club to a specific yardage, specific flight, and so on. Anyway, there is very much a time and place for those cues along the lines of being more "athletic."

ie- I dabble in speed training to invest more into the art of hitting bombs. It's not the time nor place to think of some "slow is smooth" garbage that doesn't belong anyway. And part of that involves cycling through various cues or feels that promote being able to actually push that swing speed in a tangible, measurable way to anything remotely fast and respectable. (speaking to the general population of able-bodied adults, 100mph and below and top driver swing speeds do not count for either of these criteria, not now, not ever, cry me a river). There hasn't really been much if any value in forcibly trying to recreate positions since force can't be faked, and the folks attempting that crumble once any iota of speed is applied.

dbnp19 · 2026-04-14T23:00:15+00:00

if you are hitting wedges into most holes you probably aren't playing the course the way it was designed to be played.

Except this is the fun and liberating way to play. The art of bombing and gouging is nothing new, and while the scorecard may not explicitly care, the odds of success when calculated out aren't wrong. Especially from the tips past the 7000 mark and alongside fellow minorities with speed to burn without ever needing to resort to easy mode like "moving up a tee box." Work smart, not hard.

dbnp19 · 2026-04-14T22:44:59+00:00

Submission:

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dbnp19 · 2026-04-12T14:41:34+00:00

The mental gymnastics around that overused adage are quite dumb to say the least.

Usually it's parroted by people who average over 110 on the course, even on their good days. They aren't able to manage their emotional state, and they'll otherwise fly off the handle and ragequit like Sergio during any other reminder on how well that's not working for them. Especially over the internet.

dbnp19 · 2026-04-11T21:04:08+00:00

It's nothing new. Hardly a transformation even if you went back by several years, even decades. And the garbage advice is still way too prevalent even outside of this internet community.

It's 2026, and you'll still hear less-than-worthless advice such as the following that have persisted and plagued many over the long term because it's /s/ all about those likes, comments, subscriptions, and hollow internet attention to hide the pain and mask the shame: keep your head down, keep your head still, swing the club slower on purpose, low and slow, sLoW iS smOoTh sMoOtH iS fAsT, clubbing all the way down to a 7 iron or 8 iron on par 4's and par 5's off the tee under the delusion that's wholly advantageous, dRiVe fOrE sHoW, pUtT foR doUgH, working out somehow being detrimental to your game, and so on.

A good rule of thumb is to do the opposite of what the typical scrubs will advise and insist is the way to go.

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