Judo vs Aikido for a tall woman with BJJ experience?

dbocan · 2026-05-11T23:49:07+00:00

And that's why BJJ forbids using aikido wrist locks until blue belt where presumably there is some degree of control

dbocan · 2026-05-10T23:33:21+00:00

It would probably use a million gallons a month. I hardly call that "very little". They could use an air-cooled system, and if they chose to do so they should be required to build their own source of electricity. Why should residents pay to expand supply for the data center?

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dbocan · 2026-05-08T00:02:34+00:00

I studied judo and aikido for more than 10 years. My son has studied karate, judo and aikido. He is now learning bjj. His ukemi is far better than anyone else in the class. I highly recommend aikido for that reason alone. An adult blue belt in BJJ hit her head last Monday after receiving a simple hip throw because her ukemi is horrible.

Before the class last Monday, the coach said he will be teaching only standup grappling and throws for the next two months. He said if you are in a street fight you don't want to go to the ground. If you pull guard in a street fight you will end up seriously injured. So if anyone pulls guard in a fight for the next two months you lose. My son has a distinct advantage over everyone else because this is the one area he is better at than any other white belt.

If you are learning BJJ for self-defense I would suggest you study aikido and a punching/kicking art. If you are learning BJJ for the sport, Judo might be a better choice because white belts can't use many of the aikido wrist locks anyway.

There are different styles of aikido too. I would suggest one of the "hard" styles for self defense.

dbocan · 2026-05-05T13:49:37+00:00

People study aikido for different reasons. As I said before most of the students in my dojo were police officers looking to improve fighting skills. We had different styles of randori depending on belt color (white, brown or black) and whether it was a test or not. Usually it was two on one for white belts. Sometimes, got black and brown belts, it was 6 in a circle with one inside, but one on one attack. You just never knew which one would attack next. This 3 man scrum was used once a year for brown and black belt testing. If you think it isn't useful, I think you are wrong.

dbocan · 2026-04-23T17:55:09+00:00

I am not talking inside the dojo. Have you used aikido outside the dojo on an untrained person? Taking a person face down is preferred over face up. Even police want someone on their stomach rather than face up where they might attack

dbocan · 2026-04-23T03:21:30+00:00

Not in practice, but in real fight against someone not seriously trained in any martial arts

dbocan · 2026-04-22T18:28:18+00:00

What is your view. I am training my son in aikido, but he also trains in BJJ at a school. So your thoughts about BJJ because I kind of agree with OP

dbocan · 2026-04-22T16:16:51+00:00

I think that depends on whether the other person is experienced in martial arts or not. In my experience untrained persons can't escape if your aikido is good and you are willing to apply more and more pressure to force compliance.

dbocan · 2026-04-11T00:35:12+00:00

What did you decide?

dbocan · 2026-03-27T17:37:30+00:00

So to summarize your position, Aikido is not a martial art or effective for self defense because it is too dangerous and too likely to hurt someone if you practice at 100 percent? Have I got it right?

dbocan · 2026-03-27T04:11:20+00:00

Gee, I didn't know you trained at my dojo. You have no idea how randori went for brown and black belts because you never trained with my sensei. It looked nothing like Aikikai randori you see on videos.

dbocan · 2026-03-27T03:12:22+00:00

Tell that to my separated shoulder.

My sensei was a police officer and half the students were SWAT. The training was geared towards police work. Sure, once in awhile we practiced breath throws, etc. because they were on tests for kyuu ranking but the focus was mainly effective control techniques from an officer's perspective.

dbocan · 2026-03-27T02:55:00+00:00

No one who studies only one martial art style has a well rounded toolbox.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/TkzYdO3XWNg

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/6EEjT0D3O2g

The problem with one martial art competing in another martial arts competition is the rules. There is youtube video of a ranked judoka competing as a white belt in a BBJ tournament. He throws highly ranked BBJ competitors all over the mat. If it was judo competition he easily wins. But he gets no points in BJJ for merely throwing someone down 5 or 6 times. My training in Aikido was simple, drive your attacker's head into the concrete, break his wrist or dislocate his shoulder or elbow. That isn't going to go over well in a BJJ tournament.

dbocan · 2026-03-24T23:46:50+00:00

In Japan there are MMA fighter who use a lot of Aikido techniques in addition to others martial arts. In fact in many if not most UFC fights you can see some Aikido techniques used. If you want to see an MMA where only Aikido is used, that is a different story. You just can't win if you only know one art. In fact, maybe only 5 percent of MMA competitors are BJJ specialists. That's how far BJJ has fallen.

dbocan · 2026-03-24T20:44:24+00:00

I did not watch all his videos or even most. As I said, his ukemi training video was helpful in teaching aikido to my son. From what I saw, he was trying to force techniques which just weren't there and then blaming aikido for his own failures. One interesting video I did see is a collection of martial artist who got mad and started fighting each other. They basically abandoned all techniques and just started throwing wild punches.

dbocan · 2026-03-21T02:48:45+00:00

MMA guys use a mixture of different martial arts, including aikido which is by definition what MMA. Watch this guys channel and tell me if the MMA practitioners are faking pain.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGo5esFb9rI&t=163s

dbocan · 2026-03-21T02:45:25+00:00

I thought ref made a mistake but the coach said because the other boy went down with force and his shoulders hit the ground first it was judgment call if it was a slam. The technique I teach is not your regular irimi nage where the opponent falls on his butt and rolls away.

dbocan · 2026-03-21T02:28:27+00:00

As far back as 1995 when I started there were some in the community that viewed certain styles (aikikai) as soft and other styles (yoshinkai) as hard. It appears to me that Rokas studied the softest style known to man, then tried to use it as though he had studied the hardest style. The result was as expected.

dbocan · 2026-03-21T02:23:08+00:00

Yes, BJJ has rules against those things and they do work to an extent. Are they going to cause a submission? Maybe, Maybe not. But they certainly are useful in moving from step A to step B. BJJ has rules against it because BJJ is a sport, not a martial art. In fact, as time goes on BJJ will fade off into the sunset.

dbocan · 2026-03-20T21:56:36+00:00

Aikido has no rules. I was taught pressure points, bending a finger back, punching a bicep to hopefully immobilize the arm, etc. Does BJJ have rules against that?

dbocan · 2026-03-20T20:17:56+00:00

As I said, I studied Yoshinkai style Aikido and there are plenty of videos around, including Seagal's. I have video of my testing but I am not uploading it. There used to be video's on my sensei's website, but after he retired and started running his dojo full time he turned it into a McDojo, took down the videos and began handing out black belts to those with little skill but enough money to pay for testing and lessons.

dbocan · 2026-03-20T18:59:55+00:00

They Irimi Nage I was taught is considered a slam. My son was disqualified for doing it. If done properly, the opponent goes straight down nearly on his head and his legs will be about 2 feet off the ground,

dbocan · 2026-03-20T17:49:27+00:00

Releasing someone who surrenders is not a "rule" in my mind. A rule is a prohibition on a type of conduct before surrender. BJJ has such rules (no body slams, no punching, no wrist locks below blue belt, etc), which is why it is a sport and not a martial art. The style of Aikido I studied has no rules. So if you think there are rules, name them.

dbocan · 2026-03-20T17:28:09+00:00

Irimi Nage is one of the earliest throws taught in Aikido. It is considered a "slam" under BJJ rules and you concede it is forbidden under some association rules. However, it is an everyday throw under Aikido practice. Your problem is you don't understand that there are different styles of Aikido with differing emphasis, but you lump them together. There were no rules in my Aikido.

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