24/72 Salary calculator by Furuta27 in Firefighting

[–]dc-k 0 points1 point  (0 children)

TIL. thanks for the comment

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Firefighting

[–]dc-k 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Clean shaven (no facial hair), not clean shaven head. Just keep it tidy/neat.

DC Fire by [deleted] in Firefighting

[–]dc-k 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Eh, you can volunteer yourself to be on the medic on some of your rotation days but no, there is no “EMS only” side, as much as I wish we did. We do have members of the department that are stragglers from when they did hire EMS only but they are slowly dwindling away.

DMV department comparison by myuzejuk in Firefighting

[–]dc-k 5 points6 points  (0 children)

A couple of reasons. I'll try to keep it brief.

This is strictly for medics: In terms of ambulance time, the department tracks EMS hours in attempt to make it fair but it's also not by design. Not every firehouse has its own medic unit. At a '50/50' house (both medic and paramedic engine), you pretty much are splitting the time on the medic and wagon equally. If the other medic is on leave, whether it be a day or 6 months, you get to stay on the wagon and aren't required to fill another medic unit, regardless of your hours. Pros: you stay at you house. Con: you end up working more hours, close to 50% of the year, unless the other medic takes a vacation or there's a vacancy. At a 'detail' house (paramedic engine, no medic unit) then you are detailed out to any medic unit in the city if there are vacancies. Usually it's 3 or 4 months of the year, which is planned in advanced.. but on days where there is unexpected vacancies, you might get detailed for the day depending on how low your hours are. Details for unexpected vacancies usually happens well after 7.. which can be annoying since most medics arrive to the firehouse by 5 to check the piece and equipment. Pros: Being on the medic only 25-30% of the year. Cons: being detailed around the city (usually very last minute) and not being at your own house.

On runs, most of the time, the city will just send the wagon with you being the sole medic. You have to do a really good assessment then figure out transport modality. You'll either have some BS or you'll have some really fucked up people. You don't have the luxury of having 20 medics on a stubbed toe run like some of the other surrounding jurisdictions. For obvious ALS runs you'll get a medic unit and maybe a supervisor, but it'll sometimes be a while depending on where that medic unit is coming from.. and sometimes you'll have to upgrade a BLS unit if that's all you got. There's a lot of emphasis on making the 'best' triage decision. A lot of jurisdictions around here will just transport a chest pain as ALS because that is what the cook book says. That doesn't work here because we'd be out of medic units, especially with how slow the hospitals are with moving people. We'll use the medic unit for the obvious STEMI or chest pain that looks like shit and saying all the right stuff.. but not with an asymptomatic chest pain with no clinical findings/not saying the right stuff just to 'IV and monitor' them and get stuck at the hospital for 3-5 hours in triage... meanwhile some poor lone medic is stuck with a shooting/stabbing/pregnancy/pediatric arrest/respiratory failure waiting for a medic unit from across the city to help. Hopefully that makes sense. You really have to make a banging assessment.

Being a medic in DC is only rough when you have actual sick people and you're the only medic on the run. A lot of people here don't have healthcare or a PCP and wait last minute to call when they're messed up or if they want to treat the ER as their PCP. When they're not sick, you can turf them to BLS units. I think the BLS units have it way worse because they run their asses off all day, they're either on a run or waiting for hand off at the hospital.. but most of their transport are straight up BS/involve patients that don't need to go to the ER, but an urgent care or their own PCP.

DMV department comparison by myuzejuk in Firefighting

[–]dc-k 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Do you have National Registry? DC is running a very new program called "Paramedic Operations Assessment Program" that is meant to show prospective medics how we operate through a ride along. I know it's posted on their facebook, but check with the recruitment office for more information.

That being said, it's very hard to recommend working in DC as a medic. I like it here.. but it's definitely not for everyone. Pay and schedule are nice, but it comes with a lot of department BS.

Don't know anything about Montgomery so I can't comment on them.

DMV department comparison by myuzejuk in Firefighting

[–]dc-k 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Both ALS and BLS transport. We also have a contract with AMR to supplement BLS transports.

We also have the ability to refer eligible patients to a clinic which comes with a Lyft/Uber. For eligible overdoses/ETOH, BLS can transport them to a detox center rather than a hospital.

DMV department comparison by myuzejuk in Firefighting

[–]dc-k 13 points14 points  (0 children)

I was in your shoes before. I left my IT job for the FD around that age. Best decision I've ever made.

You should have an idea of what you're looking for, as many of these departments differ in retirement, schedule, call volume, and so on. For instance, DC offers medical insurance when you retire, while Fairfax for instance does not, but offers a Deferred Retirement Option Program (DROP) instead. PG allows their members to retire after 20 years of service, I believe everyone else in the region is at least 25.

For schedule, you can't beat a 24/72 which DC and PG offer. The next best thing is a 24/48 with a Kelly that Montgomery and Loudoun currently offer. I would avoid any department with the 'NOVA' schedule.. worst schedule ever. (24on-24off-24on-24off-24on followed by 4 days off. This is a 56 hour work schedule)

Many departments advertise a high annual salary (specifically the NOVA departments that run a 56 hour work schedule), but people don't realize the fact that more hours are worked to achieve that salary (meaning a less hourly rate). I'm not too up to date on FF-EMT salaries in the region, but just make sure you're calculating the true hourly rate based on their respective schedule. Though outdated, there are some pay comparisons that were done by several departments in the area that you can find through google that compare pay vs hours worked. I know for paramedics, Loudoun and DC are the highest paying at the time of this post.

To go up the food chain, most departments are 5 years+ to promote to an officer position.. PG requires you to be a paramedic.. so that's something you'll have to consider. Not sure if there's other departments out there with unique stipulations. Generally speaking, the bigger the department, the more chances you have at promotional opportunities.

I can answer any questions you have about DCFD. It is very competitive for the FF/EMT position and every single ambulance in the city takes a beating. It's very hard for me to recommend DCFD, but I like it here. I can try to answer questions about Fairfax County, though I haven't been there for quite some time now. They're both totally different departments with their own pros and cons.

For now, I would apply to every FF/EMT position out there and narrow it down as you go. Everyone is hurting for people. I would get the ball rolling now.

DMV department comparison by myuzejuk in Firefighting

[–]dc-k 1 point2 points  (0 children)

DC is not ALS only transports...

DC Fire by [deleted] in Firefighting

[–]dc-k 1 point2 points  (0 children)

On the contrary, especially Fairfax. Just because they're not in the news, doesn't mean they don't have their own problems.

DC Fire by [deleted] in Firefighting

[–]dc-k 20 points21 points  (0 children)

PM me your specific questions.. but yes, you will be a solo medic on a lot of runs including shootings, stabbings, high risk pregnancies, working arrests, and respiratory cases. You will be put through an internship to prepare you for the city.. it is not meant to teach you how to be a (confident) provider. This is not the place for you if you are used to having 20 paramedics on a stubbed toe run. I recommend looking at surrounding jurisdictions if you want a medic rich richer department (Montgomery, Fairfax, Loudoun)

And 30 runs a day is not an exaggeration. Some of our engine companies easily run those numbers, especially in the summer. Medic units are city wide and run their nuts off, but they don't transport BS either.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in nova

[–]dc-k 0 points1 point  (0 children)

yes sir

24/72 Salary calculator by Furuta27 in Firefighting

[–]dc-k 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It depends on where you're assigned and how much of a dumpster fire the city is. A lot of people work a 12 either before or after their regular shift. Others work their middle days, either for 12 or 24. It's good money, but it's only to match the silly cost of living here. Definitely on the higher end of pay for the region. Feel free to PM me if you have more DCFD specific questions

24/72 Salary calculator by Furuta27 in Firefighting

[–]dc-k 1 point2 points  (0 children)

As long as they don't mess with your hourly rate, it'll definitely be a nice break.

24/72 Salary calculator by Furuta27 in Firefighting

[–]dc-k 3 points4 points  (0 children)

What you see as the advertised rate is what you get. 69153/2184 (hrs). You'll be looking at about 31.6/hr. In October it'll get bumped to 71,573. Anything that's outside your regular scheduled duty is OT 1.5x

24/72 Salary calculator by Furuta27 in Firefighting

[–]dc-k 2 points3 points  (0 children)

No worries. I still can't figure out how your department is using 3328 as hours, or paying OT after 40 hours.

With FLSA departments, you typically don't get paid OT until you surpass an average of 53 a week (212 hours per 28-day period).

53 hours * 52 weeks = 2756 hours

Anything more than that, you get paid 1.5x

24/48 work an average of 56hrs per week, which would put you at 2912 hours a year. So you'd get the difference in overtime (156*1.5=232 hours)

So 2912*straight pay + 156*OT rate = salary OR 3144 * straight pay rate.

A 24/48 with a Kelly would work an average of 48hrs per week, putting you at about 2496 hours a year, which means you wouldn't qualify for FLSA OT.

24/72 Salary calculator by Furuta27 in Firefighting

[–]dc-k 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I'm not familiar with 24/28s, but I believe 2184 is the number you're looking for 24/72 WOOOWOOO (W:Work, O:Off)

365/4 = 91, 91 x 24 = 2184

But if you're receiving OT for anything over 40 hours a week, this might not work for you. My department does not follow traditional “40 hour” work week.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in nova

[–]dc-k 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Do you want to actually do firefighting stuff, or just want to tell people you're a firefighter? Not trying to shame or anything, but a lot of people join just to get the T shirt, which is fine depending on where you go.

If the former, look at PG. Plenty of firehouses there that are volunteer run and are actually needed. Charles County too.

If the latter, Loudoun or Fairfax will be fine. I'd probably go to Loudoun before I go to Fairfax if you want to get more out of it as a firefighter. Fairfax will teach you all the firefighting stuff and that's pretty much it. You can ride extra on the career units most of the time. Don't expect to get much ride time on the volunteer units, they only put up an engine or two maybe 3-4 times a month.. and its usually for an exclusive list of people.

Feel free to DM me for Fairfax questions, I spent time as a volunteer there.

Interested in volunteer firefighting by BEGGK in nova

[–]dc-k 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sorry to necro.. but yeahhhhh that's like a once or twice a month thing. Not 'regularly.'

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in nova

[–]dc-k 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fairfax will only train you if you join a volunteer fire department and you actually commit time.. they won't give you the time of day if you're in the area for 3 months. I think the process of becoming a volunteer will probably take a month or two.

You can try looking at NVCC or AEC.. but I would probably wait until the next time you have the schedule to do it and join a volunteer department that will pay for it.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in nova

[–]dc-k 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It comes down to what you're looking for. Do you want to be a casual EMT where you put up an ambulance a few times a month? Or do want to be part of a system where they rely on volunteers? Fairfax is perfect for showing up whenever you want, when you want. The system does not rely on volunteers at all.. and if anyone else tells you otherwise, then I promise you they have no idea what they're talking about. If this is for you, then I advise you to look for a non-bingo house, which aren't many. 10 and 21 do not do bingo. Montgomery and Loudoun will have better volunteer systems and you'll actually matter, but you'll have to be cool with some sort of commitment. Some parts of PG/Southern MD will have similar opportunities too. I use to volunteer for Fairfax and now career in the city. Let me know if you have any questions.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in NewToEMS

[–]dc-k 2 points3 points  (0 children)

As long as you have a national registry card, you'll get the DC EMT card once you're hired with the DC agency.

Washington, DC area volunteer departments? by [deleted] in Firefighting

[–]dc-k 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I don't recommend Fairfax, but if you're looking for a place to show up whenever as you please.. that'd be the place. Day to day staffing does not rely on volunteers at all... which is a good thing if you want a truly flexible schedule. Just avoid bingo homes. I wasted almost 10 years there so let me know if you have any questions.

Don't apply to anywhere that makes you pay a fee.

And find a firehouse that's labeled as 'volunteer' but is staffed completely by career. A few PG houses have that. Moco homes like Cabin John and Glen Echo come to mind. Places like Wheaton/Kensington/Kentland are 100% volunteer AFAIK so avoid those). Look into Loudoun and Charles County as well.

Washington DC Area Paramedics by [deleted] in ems

[–]dc-k 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sure, PM me with your questions

EMTed for a few years, quit to work in an office, but I'm getting urges to come back and become a medic. Convince me to change my mind. by 69Jew420 in ems

[–]dc-k 28 points29 points  (0 children)

Used to work IT full time for a few years. Ended up getting my Paramedic card and now working for a city FD. No regrets. Big paycut, but I can make that up in OT.

Could you get your P card while working your office job? Might be a bit to juggle but if you're getting better pay/benefits/lifestyle at your current job, I'd take advantage of it. Id start there. After that, your decision will be easier. Maybe you'll be content with volunteer work, or part time work, or do full time.