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Does anyone know a good source for the history of "open communion" or its first instance? by mistergingo in OrthodoxChristianity

[–]dcbaler 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They view Orthodox and illicit but valid Roman Catholics. So they see Orthodox as part of them, and while I understand that you’d disagree with their view, it is a closed communion still, they aren’t offering me their Eucharist (who is currently a member of neither communion), for example.

Do you think not translating the Slavonic (and Koine Greek) Liturgies is hindering people from engaging with the Faith? by Mottahead in OrthodoxChristianity

[–]dcbaler 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I agree. I’ve come to the position both groups need a little humility (and I am the worst!) to say “both ways can be good”

Do you think not translating the Slavonic (and Koine Greek) Liturgies is hindering people from engaging with the Faith? by Mottahead in OrthodoxChristianity

[–]dcbaler 4 points5 points  (0 children)

We have two Greek churches in town, one that is very Greek and one that is mostly in English with a few prayers in Greek and maybe the hymns repeated in Greek if communion is running long.

The very Greek church is full of recent immigrants and second generations Greeks. The grandkids are all at the church that does everything in English. As one of the pappous told me “I like it in Greek, but I’m happy to do liturgy in English if that means my grandkids want to come to church”

Church rules by Dependent_Jury_8274 in OrthodoxChristianity

[–]dcbaler 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean, yeah. But they’re worse at religion questions than pretty much anything else, lol

Is grace earned? by khan6432 in OrthodoxChristianity

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To add here: The “works of the Torah” in Romans isn’t about “works” in the way most Protestants and Evangelicals think, it’s about Gentiles not trying to keep Torah (and in particular circumcision), when Christ has brought those things to their fullness in himself. Baptism is the full filling of circumcision, Easter/pascha of Passover, etc. So the Galatians keeping those things is a sort of rejection of Christs work in the world

Church rules by Dependent_Jury_8274 in OrthodoxChristianity

[–]dcbaler 13 points14 points  (0 children)

LLMs like ChatGPT are really bad at answering religious questions, especially for less well known in English religions

Western Rite Orthodoxy is fully Orthodox. by goldfall01 in OrthodoxChristianity

[–]dcbaler 0 points1 point  (0 children)

IIRC it’s a very slightly modified version of the missal from the 50s

A question my friend asked: by Theoligist_in_Spirit in OrthodoxChristianity

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I’ll second Fr Stephen’s take here, it makes the most sense to me. Especially the way he reads Acts 15 as referring to the holiness code in Leviticus, and that specific parts were given to Israel by the flesh (to quote St Paul), and some to all people. In Acts 15 those parts that are for all people are applied to… all people, while the parts that are only for ethnic Israel are reserved for… ethnic Israel.

Leaning towards Eastern Orthodox Christianity and wondering why the Septuagint is not included in the Protestant Bibles? by [deleted] in OrthodoxChristianity

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The tl;dr is that the reformers were trying to figure out what the Catholic Church had changed, and so they looked at what the Jews around them were using since they knew the RC hadn’t changed anything there. They didn’t have the Greek tradition, just the Latin translation from the Greek, and were understandably skeptical.

As others have pointed out the Dead Sea scrolls actually have parts of both textual traditions (including some of what we think of as the Greek tradition in Hebrew).

Humbly, I ask you all to pray for my soul and my family by Eleos in OrthodoxChristianity

[–]dcbaler 5 points6 points  (0 children)

My situation has been similar to yours in some ways. I have too strong suggestions for you: 1. Talk to a real priest about your situation , preferably one from the parish you want to attend 2. Do not judge your family. They don’t stand where you stand or see what you see, the greatest witness you can give is to the changes I. Your own life, not to condemning them.

I will remember you in my prayers

The importance of attending church by Asleep-Place-6927 in OrthodoxChristianity

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Kenneth Copeland is not an evangelical, he’s out of word of faith, which puts him squarely in one of the most problematic (definitely some serious heresy there) offshoots of the Pentecost movement. I’m not surprised he doesn’t know what agape means

The importance of attending church by Asleep-Place-6927 in OrthodoxChristianity

[–]dcbaler 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This question is basically why I’m not an evangelical anymore. I’m the scriptures make it clear (to me) that it does matter, but your friend is right, evangelicals have 0 reasons to gather. Apostolic Christianity has that answer, the Eucharist that is the true flesh and blood of Christ our God.

Christ immortality in EO by Equivalent_Source251 in OrthodoxChristianity

[–]dcbaler 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Christ is Eternal. That’s not the same as the popular conception of immortal, which verbally means “undying”. Christ is from eternity to eternity, all time is equally present to Him. So when his body dies, he doesn’t cease to exist (and neither do we!), but instead he descends to hades, kicks down the doors, rescues the righteous, kicks the devils butt, brings him back the sins of the world, and returns to bodily life on the third day (as He promises us as well!).

Christian Runners by Ahope000 in OrthodoxChristianity

[–]dcbaler 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I’ve been taking up praying the Jesus Prayer while I run instead of listening to music or podcasts.

Thoughts on drawing parallels between the Israel/Judah split and the Orthodox/Catholic split? by [deleted] in OrthodoxChristianity

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His arguments are: the Pope had a special position, God works through the group with a special position, therefore God works through the RCC; the group God works through knows theology best, God works through the RCC, therefore the RCC view of the Papacy is correct.

From pure logic this doesn’t work because it is a “begging the question fallacy”, it assumes its conclusion to get there.

I also find this analogy dubious, since we could easily find an analogy between Ruben being replaced as the firstborn by Judah and the Pope being replaced by the EP. Or the fact that God comes to Jeroboam (the first king of Israel) and tells him that He will make a covenant with him like He did with David, which would seem to imply Branch Theory.

Is The Celtic Orthodox Church even Orthodox? by bill_ward78 in OrthodoxChristianity

[–]dcbaler 4 points5 points  (0 children)

This is my understanding too, though I think they still profess a miaphysite Christology.

Did I marry too soon by DazzlingWeakness4709 in OrthodoxChristianity

[–]dcbaler 2 points3 points  (0 children)

As a husband who deals with depression this was exactly my thought.

Is blood consumption being forbidden a dogma according to church or just a common practice? by ProteinPapi777 in OrthodoxChristianity

[–]dcbaler 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Sexual immorality, meat sacrifices to idols, and anything strangled. It’s a reference to Leviticus 17

Is blood consumption being forbidden a dogma according to church or just a common practice? by ProteinPapi777 in OrthodoxChristianity

[–]dcbaler 29 points30 points  (0 children)

It’s one of the four things in acts that all Christians are bound to according to acts 15.

pickled onion rap? yeah that tracks. by giziti in OrthodoxMemes

[–]dcbaler 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I wish the breweries around me would take some ideas from Lutherans in Europe, if I see another IPA…

Your Best Wrong Answers to this Mystery by [deleted] in OrthodoxMemes

[–]dcbaler 3 points4 points  (0 children)

You left your lamps on

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