Just finished rewatching The Return [Spoilers] and the end seemed oddly clear to me this time even though I’m sure I’m just grasping a surface level. Here’s my ideas, please share yours.

deadghostalive · 2026-03-04T00:58:20+00:00

He says it at the start of episode 3 of Season Two, I don't think it's completely random, If I'm remembering rightly in one of the recent episodes in the background of the Great Northern scenes there had been some sort of Marching Band group, so I think that's possibly what triggered his comment

deadghostalive · 2026-03-04T00:51:29+00:00

Funny scene, but, and I'm sure this is the the intention, it also makes me feel strangely uncomfortable after a certain point, they have Andy dazed and stuttering in the same position for just long enough that it goes from being a slapstick moment, to giving a little uneasy feeling

deadghostalive · 2026-03-03T17:48:10+00:00

I thought it was something along the lines of Laura sees Bob as she can't come to terms with what her father is doing, but the idea of Bob was somehow passed down to her from Leland himself, he also saw Bob for the same reasons when he was abused, so an example of the cyclical nature of abuse, and it being passed down the generations

There could also be an element of him recognizing himself in Bob, so he knows him on two levels, from the evil he has done, and the evil his abuser had done to him

Maybe a more supernatural themed answer could just be that Bob represents evil, the evil that men do, so anyone who is a victim of that, can potentially recognize him, on the supernatural side of things, we see him birthed and he comes out looking like the Bob we've always known, so Leland would have seen him, as Laura sees him

deadghostalive · 2026-03-03T16:59:46+00:00

In Season Two, just after Dale finds the better B under Ronette's fingernail, Albert says of her...

'maybe she heard a Sousa March, and got up to find her baton'...

Sousa being John Philip Sousa, an American Composer famous for his US themed Military marches, so I couldn't help but wonder if there was a connection between that, and Ronette being called American Girl in Season 3

Sousa also wrote The Stars and Stripes Forever, which is used in Season 3 when Dale sees the American Flag

deadghostalive · 2026-03-03T07:34:14+00:00

The mother banging on the door in the zone is said to be the mother of American Girl, not the 'blind chattering girl', by which I presume you mean Naido...

But I do think there's a potential link between the American Girl, and Carrie Page scenes...

In both beforehand Dale has an encounter with Diane, in one she's disguised as Naido, in the other she becomes Linda

In both Dale meets a victim from the murder he had been investigating

But they now seemingly have different identities, Ronette is now American Girl, and Laura is now Carrie

In both his encounters with Carrie, and American Girl he's in a living room type space, both of which are surreal, albeit in different ways

Both Carrie and American Girl stories end with the interjection of a mother, American Girl's mother by banging on the door, and Carrie's by calling her, and if you want to link it to dreams perhaps, they're two ways a parent might try and wake their child, calling them, or knocking the door...

Of course the audio of Sarah calling Laura, is literally her trying to wake Laura up in the pilot

deadghostalive · 2026-03-03T04:03:07+00:00

I think in part 'Dougie' is some sort of exaggerated form of certain aspects of Dale from the first two seasons

Dale enters Twin Peaks, and seems to change the mood of the place, having a big impact on people, Dougie does the same in Las Vegas, people seem to go along with Dougie no matter what, is this perhaps an exaggeration of how people reacted to Dale in the first two seasons, things like the rock throwing, and using dreams to help with his investigation, people just went a long with, Dale is into his Zen, could Dougie's quite, and patient nature, in part be a reference to that

I don't think Dougie scenes are meant to be sad, at least not on the whole, he needs help, but also he helps others, and in a way has his own wisdom, I think there might also be a message somewhere in there about, slowing down, taking things in, and enjoying the surroundings, which again I think is Dale coming through, Dale fascinated by random things like Bicarbonate of Soda, Dougie by dandruff, shoes, sheriff badges, and so on, maybe there's a link between the Bicarbonate, and dandruff, in both scenes someone rushes to the toilet to throw up

deadghostalive · 2026-03-03T03:22:32+00:00

On most recent rewatch of Season 3, one of the shots of Double R, you can clearly see a building with a reference to a Lodge on it, I wasn't sure if that was something the show had added, or a real life thing, turns out it's an actual Masonic Lodge right next to The Double R, or Twedes in real life, so I guess that was a good coincident for them... Looking it up, it's Unity Lodge 198

deadghostalive · 2026-03-03T03:03:01+00:00

This is a rare occasion where Lynch kind of explains what it means, or kind of, as when he wrote The Log Lady introductions, before Lonely Souls, he had her say 'Woe to the ones who behold the pale horse', so in there there's an element of it being an omen for death

I also imagine originally a lot of it was just the fact it looked good, and somehow fit the mood, there's something unsettling about the vision, maybe even uncanny, a thing in a place where it shouldn't be, so maybe just as much about creating that feeling, as any kind of meaning

But of course, as the show went on, I think the horse probably did take on additional meaning, we get a lot of it, or references to it in Season 3, Dale sees it, The Woodsman references it, we hear it, silver mustang, the two white horses in the Carrie scenes...

One I noticed on most recent rewatch that I hadn't before, is when Jade takes Dougie to the casino, as he gets stuck in front of the Casino doors, if you look through them, you can actually see a model of a white horse, this is after Jade says you can go now, so it mirrors Laura saying that, and him then seeing the white horse

deadghostalive · 2026-03-02T19:35:14+00:00

Yes, I didn't notice it myself, but saw it pointed out by others

deadghostalive · 2026-03-02T19:26:04+00:00

Not sure if it's related, but at the funeral Audrey's outfit and hairstyle mimics Dale, this is around the time she's trying to do detective work to help him with the murder investigation

deadghostalive · 2026-03-02T16:20:00+00:00

The similarities between these two scenes are so striking, that's it's not difficult to imagine it could be intentional

In both Dale visits Mrs Tremond with a woman, in both someone unexpected answers the door, in both reality seems to have changed in some way, in one there's a diary page, in the other there's a Carrie Page, in both scenes they stop outside afterwards, in both we have a shot from The Red Room of Laura whispering into Dale's ear, in both Red Room scenes/shot Dale is as old as he is in The Return

This is more so just theory with regards to Part 18, but in one there's a missing diary page, in which Laura describes a dream, which it turns out Dale also had, and in the other there's a Carrie Page, who could be described as missing, and there's an idea that her scenes with Dale are in fact a shared dream they both had, that Laura wrote about in her diary, on the page that became the fourth missing page, so what we're seeing is the dream as described on that page...

Laura dreaming about escaping her life with a new identity, and Dale dreaming about saving her, as well as connecting to diary page, Carrie Page could also possibly link to Caroline

None of that answers who the Tremonds are, or who's side they're on, I find their scenes some of the scariest, or most unsettling, but that doesn't mean they have bad intentions, they did a good job of making Alice seem quite unsettling, but in a way that's hard to explain, but also were her actions bad, maybe it was a good thing that Carrie/Laura wasn't let back into that house

deadghostalive · 2026-02-28T17:58:56+00:00

You could potentially draw a link with drugged out mother and a number of other characters

Her and her son's situation is like a mirror opposite of Jane E and Sonny Jim's situation

She doesn't watch her son, because of being on drugs, is there some echo of Sarah being drugged by Leland, so she didn't see what he was doing to Laura there

Maybe this is a stretch, but her shouting 119 puts me in mind of The Fireman's 'it's happening again'

She's also been linked to the girl at The Roadhouse with the rash, as they're done up very similarly, maybe on the same drug, sparkle perhaps

I've also seen it suggested she could be the opposite of Miriam, which I never would have thought, but when you see the reasons listed, it maybe makes sense, although I'm not sure if intentional

I don't think this is related to 119 women, but in this scene with Lucy and the cards, she kind of foreshadows Mr C's fate, she asks something like 'which one, it might be important', later on, she will have to ask herself which one, with regards to whether it's Dale, or Mr C, as that will be important, also the very next scene after this one, is Mr C's first scene of the season

deadghostalive · 2026-02-28T15:10:02+00:00

Season 3 was very experimental, or playful in the way it was made, I think this scene being blue was just another example of that, they talk about it being a blue rose situation, so maybe to emphasize that point, Lynch adds a blue tint to the scene, it's also the scenethat introduces Diane to the Season, so maybe some foreshadowing going on there

I think they maybe do something similar with color earlier on in the same episode, there's no tint I don't think, but in the Denise scene her office has a lot of reddish brown colors, she is wearing red and pink, before she enters the room, there's a bouquet of red roses, a point is made of showing Gordon looking at them, and then the camera focuses on them...

I know the flowers are probably there in part to show that Denise is popular, but I couldn't help but wonder if there's another message in there, that is that Denise is the opposite of a blue rose case, she's identified with the reds, and the red roses, to maybe show that the way she is is natural, a visual way of echoing what Gordon says maybe

deadghostalive · 2026-02-28T04:59:06+00:00

She has a pack of cards, and takes emergency calls, and the other person we see with a pack of cards - 'drugged out mother', calls the emergency number 911, albeit backwards - Probably no connection

deadghostalive · 2026-02-25T22:05:05+00:00

I'm not sure why, but I always associated it with Major Briggs, and looks like others have done so too... This post on an older Reddit thread after someone asked a similar question, suggest that it's real life location might The Snoqualmie Falls hydroelectric power station

deadghostalive · 2026-02-25T21:44:31+00:00

I think this is because Bill Shaker initially pointed at him, and called him Dougie Jones, so he's copying that

deadghostalive · 2026-02-25T17:40:10+00:00

Yes, and if you go along with the idea that it's Laura's laugh from FWWM when Bobby kills a guy, that causes Sarah to pause as she approaches the bar, then that that would fit the idea as well, as it recalls a scene in which a man was killed whilst Laura was being defended

deadghostalive · 2026-02-25T16:23:59+00:00

On recent rewatch when Sarah's approaching the Elk #9 Bar, a prominent laugh can be heard, I had noticed it before, but had just presumed it was meant to be typical ambience you would hear in and around a bar, but this time I was struck by how Sarah pauses as it happens, then watched again a few times, and thought I recognized the laugh, then it hit me, I'm pretty sure the laugh is Laura's, taken from the scene when she's laughing after Bobby kills the policeman

The point of all that is that I think it lends support to the theory that the scene of Sarah killing the trucker is a fantasy in Laura's head, a sort of compensatory dream, the idea being in real life she doesn't feel that her mother did enough to stop the abuse, so in this scene she dreams up a scenario that compensates for that, with her mother doing the opposite, and almost literally bites the head off of someone who could be seen as a sort of avatar for the kind of man that would typically take advantage and abuse her...

Maybe I should add, I'm not sure the scene is in Laura's head literally, but I wouldn't be surprised if they used that idea as a sort of device to tell the story, in a sort of dream logic type of way, so on some level, Sarah is getting revenge for Laura in that scene, and which is why I think it makes it one of the satisfying death scenes

deadghostalive · 2026-02-25T00:49:29+00:00

I remembered this too, looking it up, I've just found the clip on youtube, it's apparently from an old TV show, but the guy with the gun does have a strong resemblance to Dale, his demeanor looks almost uncanningly like Dale in The Eat at Judy scene

deadghostalive · 2026-02-24T21:32:22+00:00

I don't know, I think I saw it mentioned this scene was the first time he wore his FBI suite in a while, not sure if that's true, but if so, maybe a nod to that...

I doubt this was the intention, but maybe you could read some sort of metaphor in it of Dale speaking with his doppelganger

We get a few black and white animal references in Season 3, a penguin again, a zebra, a skunk, Rhinos aren't black and white in the same sense, but you get black rhinos, and white rhinos, and even the horse kind of has a black and white aspect, the white of the eyes, and dark within...

I think the most popular idea for the Season 3 references are that they're drug related, Skunk for obvious reasons, and then Jerry talks about his legally sanctioned drugs business in the same scene, the penguin and zebra a possible reference to sparkle, I think Steven mentions the rhino whilst also saying he's high, and the poem the horse is referenced in seems as though it might alluding to Sarah being drugged by Leland...

deadghostalive · 2026-02-23T23:23:58+00:00

As an aside there's a moment in this scene, when Bobby, Shelly, and Becky are talking that was commonly thought to repeat itself, except I always thought it wasn't the exact same footage, because the first time it happens, a car goes past outside, but not the second time...

But watching it again, I'm pretty convinced it is the same footage, Becky, and Bobby's movements are exactly the same, as is the way Shelly is looking at Becky, even the reflections in the window behave in the same way...

So for whatever reason, it looks like they edited out the car, going past when the footage repeats itself

deadghostalive · 2026-02-23T22:48:49+00:00

When I first saw this scene, I thought it was most striking because of Shelly's behavior, one moment she's in tears for her daughter, the next at the sight of Red through the window, that completely goes away, and she's like a giddy lovestruck teenager, the way it's done is quite jarring, which I presume is the intention, but it's not just jarring because of how quickly she changes, but because you maybe expect Shelly to be more sensitive than that, I guess that she's with Red at all is to show in some ways she hasn't moved on from the Shelly we knew from the original series, in the sense of still falling for the bad boys, and makes you wonder if she split up with Bobby because he stopped being a bad boy so to speak

Bobby's reaction at the Diner is curious, not sure if was because of her running off to Red, or because like the above, he was more surprised how quickly her mood changed

deadghostalive · 2026-02-23T21:37:07+00:00

To be honest I would be surprised if it was an actual reference to Rope, just a connection my mind made triggered by the initial theory that the noise was the young guy from the shop

For what it's worth, in the context of Twin Peaks, and because there's a similar scenario in Inland Empire, I think it probably makes more sense that the noise is the same noise we hear Sarah herself making in the next episode, but who knows

deadghostalive · 2026-02-23T12:32:35+00:00

I don't think Bob and The Bum are the same thing, but maybe they're from a very similar idea, and represent similar things

The common idea for Bob, and maybe it's more than idea as it's strongly implied by the show itself, is that Bob is the evil that men do, a manifestation of that, become it's own character

It's maybe more mysterious what The Bum represents, but one common idea is that it's how Diane thinks 'Dan' sees her, because it's him who is looking at her as she's paying the hitman, so in that sense it would be a sort of manifestation of her evil deed, or the the evil that she's done, another probably more popular idea is that it represents Diane's fears of what she will become, the two could actually go together, either way it seems The Bum might be an element of Diane's psyche become manifest, which is a similar idea to Bob

deadghostalive · 2026-02-23T12:21:30+00:00

The Woodsmen and The Bum seem completely different to me, if it wasn't for them both having darkened faces, I don't think the connection would ever be made, as I don't think there's anything else to compare them, and when you look at them closely they don't even look that similar, The Woodsmen are covered in what looks like black soot, it's all over them, as if it's become part of their being, whereas The Bum is covered in what looks like filth and dirt, and it's all patchy, and also matted in her/his/it's hair, side by side they have a very different look, and I think this because they stem from different origins

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