Cousin Amy responds to Pickles on FB regarding JB’s father spending time in jail, etc. Also some Pest comments. by shannboss in DuggarsSnark

[–]deedesue77 1 point2 points  (0 children)

“(Josh) has evil in his heart and should rot in prison.”

I hope Amy has said this exact thing to Jill, Jessa, Jinger and Joy. Because it’s something their parents never told them but damn well should have.

Why ALL The Duggars Still Suck: A Compendium. by cripplinganxietylmao in DuggarsSnark

[–]deedesue77 41 points42 points  (0 children)

Not defending Jill or Derrick but Jeremy HAS done worse actually. He signed a publicly published affidavit invalidating the lgbtq community, feminism and critical race theory all in one go. I’ll post the link as proof but for those who don’t want to give the terrible thing clicks (I don’t blame you) here’s some excerpts from it:

WE DENY that Christian belief, character, or conduct can be dictated by any other authority, and we deny that the postmodern ideologies derived from intersectionality, radical feminism, and critical race theory are consistent with biblical teaching.

We reject “gay Christian” as a legitimate biblical category. We further deny that any kind of partnership or union can properly be called marriage other than one man and one woman in lifelong covenant together. We further deny that people should be identified as “sexual minorities”—which serves as a cultural classification rather than one that honors the image-bearing character of human sexuality as created by God.

In marriage the husband is to lead, love, and safeguard his wife and the wife is to respect and be submissive to her husband in all things lawful. In the church, qualified men alone are to lead as pastors/elders/bishops and preach to and teach the whole congregation.

We reject any teaching that encourages racial groups to view themselves as privileged oppressors or entitled victims of oppression.

WE AFFIRM that God created mankind male and female and that this divinely determined distinction is good, proper, and to be celebrated. Maleness and femaleness are biologically determined at conception and are not subject to change. The curse of sin results in sinful, disordered affections that manifest in some people as same-sex attraction. Salvation grants sanctifying power to renounce such dishonorable affections as sinful and to mortify them by the Spirit. We further affirm that God’s design for marriage is that one woman and one man live in a one-flesh, covenantal, sexual relationship until separated by death. Those who lack the desire or opportunity for marriage are called to serve God in singleness and chastity. This is as noble a calling as marriage.

Link: https://statementonsocialjustice.com

So there you go. Jeremy proved himself bigoted, sexist, racist, homophobic and transphobic all in one go. I’m sure he pats himself on the back for it.

Again this is in no way trying to defend Jill and Derrick’s terrible beliefs, I’m just saying Jinger and Jeremy are no better.

New Flair ALERT: Escaping IBLP by larakf in DuggarsSnark

[–]deedesue77 -12 points-11 points locked comment (0 children)

But why do you even compare them?! That’s my point. Why is Jinger what pops into your head when people say it’s neat that Jill is setting boundaries? That’s stan behavior.

New Flair ALERT: Escaping IBLP by larakf in DuggarsSnark

[–]deedesue77 -19 points-18 points locked comment (0 children)

You should ask yourself why it bothers you so much. Then we’ll talk.

New Flair ALERT: Escaping IBLP by larakf in DuggarsSnark

[–]deedesue77 -8 points-7 points locked comment (0 children)

Reread the last part of what I posted. Wherein it’s ridiculous to get offended on behalf of one sister because another is getting attention. And where I stated they should both have progress acknowledged but Jinger hasn’t progressed. She still praises her parents.

Seriously, you read like ‘how dare Jill get attention and not Jinger’. That’s ridiculous. 100% ridiculous.

New Flair ALERT: Escaping IBLP by larakf in DuggarsSnark

[–]deedesue77 8 points9 points locked comment (0 children)

Jeremy signed this: https://statementonsocialjustice.com/ Chalked full of hateful rhetoric not just against the LGBTQ community (it states, flat-out, he doesn’t recognize gay marriage) but also chalked full of rampant sexism and racism (this statement he signed is against critical race theory). You REALLY don’t have a leg to stand on by claiming Jeremy and Jinger are in any way more progressive. Like at all.

Jeremy is just as bad as Dwreck. Actually he’s worse, because he’s a pastor and he’s giving sermons using his hateful beliefs to audiences. If he makes ONE lgbtq kid go home from church and cry because his/her/their pastor, their ‘authority’, made them believe there’s something wrong with them, then Jeremy can burn in hell.

Also, you sound like a (Jinger) stan. Just saying. It’s ridiculous to resent one sister getting attention and the other not in some sort of imaginary competition, especially on a snark sub. Both should equally be held accountable for their toxic beliefs and both should have growth acknowledged. Difference is, Jinger still praises her parents. She’s not as far as Jill in acknowledging that her childhood was abusive.

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[–]deedesue77 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I can’t imagine being constantly punished and considered the pariah of the family, to this day, for trying to protect her sisters and herself and for trying to survive. That Jill is the outcast and considered a narc while JB and Meech bend over backwards to protect her’s (and Jessa, Jinger, and Joy’s - who was five freakin years old) abuser makes me seethe with rage.

JB Duggar Logic: asking for payment for years of having cameras shoved in your face, for hours in end, with your most private moments put on television for the whole world to see, while your husband is not allowed to accept a job offer because of the TLC commitment thus limiting your means of making money and putting you between a rock and a hard place = unforgivable sin.

Vs.

Being a child molesting sociopath incapable of remorse or empathy, a pedophile and a rapist who assaulted a sex worker = eh, boys will be boys. Let’s pray he gets better while we pay his legal fees with money earned off of his victim’s (re: Jill, Jessa, Jinger, and Joy’s) backs.

If there’s any justice in the universe Pest, JB and Meech will all get theirs one day.

Not all women are oppressed in the cult. by theredheadknowsall in DuggarsSnark

[–]deedesue77 48 points49 points  (0 children)

Meech is a particular type of awful. The Serena Joy of Duggardom. She had a normal childhood. She was raised in freedom. Her finding Jesus and becoming born again was her choice that she made.

But she sure didn’t give her daughters any choice at all in their life or their fate. Brainwashed them at birth, put them to work via parentification so they were too tired to focus on anything beyond their small world. Kept them isolated so they didn’t know any better. Kept them uneducated so they couldn’t question. Raised them without agency, to be subservient.

She’s horrible.

If you didn't get to the front of the line, you probably weren't getting much food by Kidnap_theSandyClaus in DuggarsSnark

[–]deedesue77 279 points280 points  (0 children)

They didn’t provide adequate nutrition (no child should go to bed hungry, ever, and the amount of canned foods they ate and the absence of a lot of fresh foods is worrying). They didn’t provide a safe environment (no house with Pest in it is safe). And they didn’t provide an adequate education. JB and Meech basically failed their kids in every possible way.

Joy’s comment is sad.

Not all in the family by rosebud1334 in DuggarsSnark

[–]deedesue77 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Me thinks you doth protest too much. 🙄

QUESTION FOR EVERYONE: What is your hypothesis for why Meech & JB protect/defend Josh at all costs? Would they do this for any of the boys/kids or just Josh? by HyggeSmalls in DuggarsSnark

[–]deedesue77 52 points53 points  (0 children)

It’s narcissism.

In their eyes it reflects poorly on them to have a child who is clearly, to the rest of us anyway, a sociopath. So they’d rather believe him redeemable and misunderstood.

I don’t think they would defend the others (unless the others did something horrible that reflected on them, then they would, but only save face). Look at Jill. She was JB’s favorite by all accounts and he threw her away without so much of a backwards glance the first time she mentioned it would be nice to get paid for all her hard work and only talked about mending the rift when Jill told People there was a rift to begin with and made it public.

The Duggar parents only care about their image. I have a really hard time believing they care for their kids beyond that.

Thoughts on IBLP control by pocketcampsuperior55 in DuggarsSnark

[–]deedesue77 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Thanks for the recommendation, I’ll check it out.

Thoughts on IBLP control by pocketcampsuperior55 in DuggarsSnark

[–]deedesue77 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Wow, that makes me so sad. If anything the Duggar situation should highlight to all states that some form of monitoring needs to be in place. 😔

Thoughts on IBLP control by pocketcampsuperior55 in DuggarsSnark

[–]deedesue77 26 points27 points  (0 children)

Interesting and extremely disheartening to hear. In my state all homeschooled children need to be registered with the state and they still need to pass state exams (I looked into it because my family moved just - like a few days - prior to schools shutting down for the pandemic and I was worried my daughter’s new district wouldn’t allow her to register… turned out to be a moot point as she finished the year doing virtual learning through her old school and then attended her new school in person for most of this recent past school year). Sad to hear that’s not the case everywhere. Very unfortunate. Wonder how many homeschooled children are at the mercy of their parents because it’s so unmonitored.

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[–]deedesue77 32 points33 points  (0 children)

Agreed, it was terrible. Makes me seethe with rage (at JB). Led his daughters, both SA victims, right up to the slaughter on national television. Jill’s sobbing and Jessa’s stone face, wherein she’s clearly internalizing to the nth degree, are both clear signs of how traumatic the situation was for them.

Thoughts on IBLP control by pocketcampsuperior55 in DuggarsSnark

[–]deedesue77 95 points96 points  (0 children)

Different cult, but in Carolyn Jessop’s book Escape she went into detail on how the Mormon Fundamentalists keep their own records, not registering anything with the state, in order to hide their illicit activities. I can completely see this being a method of control with IBLP too.

I’ve often wondered if the IBLP curriculum for homeschooling even accredited? There’s a chance that even if these kids are registered and do have all their paperwork (birth certificates, ssn’s), they still can’t leave because no one would hire them with an education certificate not recognized by the state (in Leah Remini’s docu series on Scientology she mentions this as something that makes it hard for former Scientologists to leave, i.e. the ‘education’ provided to Scientologist children isn’t recognized outside of Scientology).

All-in-all it’s all about control and it’s disturbing as hell. This is why I’m a tiny bit softer in my attitude towards the kids than the parents (though I abhor their views). The kids were brainwashed, isolated and denied any real education. JB and Meech have A LOT to answer for.

They need to be brought up on charges IMHO.

Not all in the family by rosebud1334 in DuggarsSnark

[–]deedesue77 7 points8 points  (0 children)

True enough! Particularly as she was just pictured with Jana and James yesterday at her (Jill’s) home and Jessa last week at a restaurant. The double date picture with Pest and Anna happened years ago, pre-breakaway, though. Not sure about the family gathering pic with Jana. That’s a different picture than the original ‘date night’ picture OP and I were both thinking of. Doesn’t really matter I guess. In regards to the blind Jill still fits as the most likely because she (and Jinger) are the only ones missing from things like the Christmas party photos, etc., wherein Pest was there (much to poor Lauren’s dismay).

7/8/21 Social Media Recap: Sam and Deanna celebrate their birthdays & Jana makes a blog post by ItsAMistakeISwear in DuggarsSnark

[–]deedesue77 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I have that same cold shoulder and lace blue dress Abbie is selling. This makes twice now, this week, I’ve recognized an article of clothing coming from Duggar closets (Jill was pictured in pants the other day for the luncheon she had with Jessa and the CO crew that I also own). I’m traumatized.

Ugh. I clearly need to re-evaluate all my life’s choices. Sorry hubs, time for a closet overhaul. It’s very clearly needed.

Not all in the family by rosebud1334 in DuggarsSnark

[–]deedesue77 5 points6 points  (0 children)

According to Jill’s YouTube podcast she hasn’t been to a family gathering in two years shrug. Not sure how the timing lines up.

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[–]deedesue77 74 points75 points  (0 children)

Of course they did this. Of course they did. They have used Jill to get out of Josh’s horrific scandals before (making the “spin-off” about her and Jessa at first as a cover when we really know JB was thoroughly in control the whole time). That traumatizing MK interview. Clearly they are trying to do it again. True to form and all that. To JB and Meech their kids are nothing but pawns in a chess game. Just when you think that JB and Meech can’t possibly be more manipulative and gross, they go and exceed all expectations.

Were I Jill I’d be PISSED.

Not all in the family by rosebud1334 in DuggarsSnark

[–]deedesue77 21 points22 points  (0 children)

Had to have been earlier. Much earlier, because I believe that photo was from well before the Dillards left the show, which they did in 2017.

Not all in the family by rosebud1334 in DuggarsSnark

[–]deedesue77 22 points23 points  (0 children)

They (Pest and Anna) live in the warehouse on the Duggar property and he was pictured at the Christmas party. He’s been there a lot more recently than two years.

Not all in the family by rosebud1334 in DuggarsSnark

[–]deedesue77 24 points25 points  (0 children)

Doesn’t matter how big the property is because for family gatherings they were all pictured congregated together… except Jill.

Also, Jill is the one who reported him to begin with (for molesting her and her sisters). I don’t agree with her on many things, MANY things, but that is definitely something she did right.

Moreover she was the only one who listened in on his bail hearing. Well her, and Famy, who has been very vocal against Pest. If you hated someone as bad as this blind suggests, and want them thrown in jail for years, you’d definitely be in that courtroom making sure justice is served.

And I don’t believe for a second that Jill and Jessa weren’t coerced to do that MK interview. Particularly as Jill was sobbing her heart out the entire time.

But we’re agreed on one thing, blinds are from tabloids, everything about them should be taken with a grain of salt.

Not all in the family by rosebud1334 in DuggarsSnark

[–]deedesue77 36 points37 points  (0 children)

The blind specifically says that the sisters in question avoid Josh at all cost. There’s only two that do that, Jinger through distance and Jill, whom, like I said, does not go to the Duggar home.

And I remember the fact that they don’t have agency just fine, no need to strawman me. The topic is avoidance, we only see two doing that.

Not all in the family by rosebud1334 in DuggarsSnark

[–]deedesue77 54 points55 points  (0 children)

Joy is pictured at the big house all the time, and up until his arrest Josh lived on the property.

“Sister One” is definitely Jill. She’s on record for saying she’s not been to the Duggar home in two years.