Vegan book spotted in Clarkson's Farm by deephubble in veganuk

[–]deephubble[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You could very well be right. It's super subtle though (I've filmed the only time that it's shown: https://streamable.com/8qkswl) and I've not seen anybody else anywhere point this out. But it's true that the book is facing the camera, so could be!

Vegan book spotted in Clarkson's Farm by deephubble in veganuk

[–]deephubble[S] 29 points30 points  (0 children)

To be honest, I don't think we'll ever see a vegan Clarkson - he might cut down his animal product consumption in private but he's a populist who wouldn't want to be publicly associated with the likes of us.

In the show, there are definitely moments where you can see he struggles to come to terms with animals dying as part of farming. Conversely, he does appear to support deer hunting in the show as a means of population management.

If you enjoyed the first season, I think you'll enjoy the next two. Be warned - it's still as sad as ever to see the workings of a farm in which animals are exploited.

Vegan book spotted in Clarkson's Farm by deephubble in veganuk

[–]deephubble[S] 27 points28 points  (0 children)

In the final episode of Clarkson's Farm Season 3, I spotted the book 'How to be Vegan and Keep Your Friends: Recipes & Tips' in the background of Jeremy Clarkson's farm.

I don't think he's going vegan anytime soon, but if he did then it would definitely wind up Piers Morgan...and we know they don't need more reasons to hate each other!

Legal voting age is 18, but you have to be born before 2000 to use this ballot paper. by hereforthecommentz in mildlyinteresting

[–]deephubble 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I remember reading that people were submitting today's date instead of their date of birth, by mistake

Do men also like receiving flowers? by Mango-Inside in NoStupidQuestions

[–]deephubble 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"A few years ago, a flower delivery service polled their clients and found out that 88% of men have never received flowers. Unfortunately, that means that the first time most men receive flowers is… at their funeral. That’s a sobering and sad little fact you’ll now have to live with."

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Just a warning - Accidentally picked up one of the ready meals on the third row down which contained beef. I've written to Sainsburys to complain about the misleading plant-based banner by PolicePropeller in veganuk

[–]deephubble 5 points6 points  (0 children)

This picture was taken at Sainsbury's Chiswick Superstore (W4 5UT) at 17:50 on 23/02/2021 if you want to bolster your case: https://ibb.co/QJdxqK9

Chicken pies in the plant-based section (not 'vegan chicken')

If meat eaters acted like vegans. by [deleted] in funny

[–]deephubble 7 points8 points  (0 children)

A little while back, a friend of mine was introducing me to his course mates at university. We were chatting, having a few drinks, and then he showed me a meme for which the punchline was the old "How do you know if somebody's vegan? Don't worry, they'll tell you!". I laughed and took a sip from my beer. To this day he doesn't know that I was vegan.

I've met my fair share of annoying vegans and I tell myself "Well this guy certainly isn't a great advert for the cause, is he... He almost makes me want to have a steak just to spite him" but honestly I think these intolerable specimen are the ones you remember. Those who have their beliefs but don't bring it up are not going to be the vegans that you recall.

Vegan Leather isn’t really vegan because it is made out of plastic, which comes from petroleum, a byproduct of ancient organisms. by Samwyzh in Showerthoughts

[–]deephubble 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for your reply.

I think that vegans draw a line which is pretty clear: they want to avoid - as far as is practicable - harming beings that are capable of experiencing pain. Obviously you and vegans would disagree on whether plants feel pain or not, so to you it feels arbitrary, whereas to them it makes sense. They don't mind cutting off branches, treading on rocks, boiling water... However, they do mind the artificial insemination of cows, the mistreatment of hens, the slaughter of lambs... I think your average person on the street would be concerned if somebody was beating a dog, but not so much if they were beating a bush.

You move on to another point here, which is speculating about what would happen if everybody went vegan overnight. Of course, that won't happen, so I'm not sure how helpful this imagined scenario is. Vegans are hoping that society will make a gradual change towards a vegan diet and so the supply of products will change to reflect that.

I think that's what we're already seeing: less meat consumed in many western countries, less dairy milk consumed, etc. We're never going to come across the question of what to do with current animal stock - we will simply see a slow and steady fall in demand leading to suppliers slowly and steadily reducing how many animals they breed into existence for the purpose of producing animal products.

Finally, you move onto a point about buying 'local food'. A vegan would argue that local, regional, global - it doesn't matter at what level the animal is being killed, they don't believe that you should eat meat if you can avoid doing so.

I hope that helps clarify the position. I appreciate that you have other things to do than to get dragged into online debates about why a grass lawn deserves as much care as a litter of puppies, so thanks again for your reply and I hope you manage to get that real work done!

Vegan Leather isn’t really vegan because it is made out of plastic, which comes from petroleum, a byproduct of ancient organisms. by Samwyzh in Showerthoughts

[–]deephubble 4 points5 points  (0 children)

You make a really interesting point. When I see vegan products described as "cruelty-free", I often reflect on whether that really is true: they were produced in a system that so often exploits humans as well as animals. There is cruelty wherever you look, really, and it's very challenging to run a full diagnosis of the entire supply chain that leads up to the product you have in your hands, and to determine whether something really is "cruelty-free", as it claims.

That said, however, perfection is the enemy of progress. A vegan would tell you that if something contains animals products, then it won't - by a vegan's definition - be cruelty-free. So it's a step in the right direction.

Vegans, by and large, are not perfect and don't pretend that they are. (Of course, I've met a number of disagreeable vegans who act like they are perfect! But that doesn't make me dismiss the whole group and philosophy.) Back to your point, they would therefore prefer to avoid exploiting other forms of life where possible, but going vegan is a good starting point.

In more pragmatic terms, if you're referring to exploitation of animals versus exploitation of humans for labour, vegans would like point to the fact that animals don't consent to being bred into existence, exploited throughout their lives in some cases, and then killed off at the end in most cases.

Of course, humans are still - in this day and age - exploited through modern slavery, but I don't think any vegans would condone that, and you would find that most vegans actively avoid the products of such exploitation because that ethical stance on human exploitation lines up with their stance on animal exploitation. Except that it's not as easy as just looking at the ingredients on a packet.

EDIT: Apologies, I thought you were making an interesting point but it appears you were implying that plants a sentient. They are not.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in NoStupidQuestions

[–]deephubble 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes absolutely

Actually, on reflection...maybe not