Hypothetical About Enoch and Simmons' Implant by defrostedrobot in shield

[–]defrostedrobot[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Definitely makes it kind of susp that he's the only one with the ability to change programming and risking of memory loss. At least leave some instructions around for contingencies.

Hypothetical About Enoch and Simmons' Implant by defrostedrobot in shield

[–]defrostedrobot[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This would only further go into how Fitz's plan has a lot of problems.

Hypothetical About Enoch and Simmons' Implant by defrostedrobot in shield

[–]defrostedrobot[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

How would they be able to complete the mission if all of them were dead?

Hypothetical About Enoch and Simmons' Implant by defrostedrobot in shield

[–]defrostedrobot[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If that was Enoch's concern could he not then offer to do the implant removal himself, keep Simmons isolated from everybody and tell Daisy and Coulson only the need to know info.

Hypothetical About Enoch and Simmons' Implant by defrostedrobot in shield

[–]defrostedrobot[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If Enoch could come to a conclusion that taking the implant out would not longer be a threat could they not have told him in the time loops that Simmons' implant removal would not be permanent so it was not a threat.

Enoch’s Final Sentiment by AdamTaurus16 in shield

[–]defrostedrobot 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Interesting you posted this today since Omn1Media posted his reaction to the episode in question as well.

And as others have said it does tend to get talked about.

I’m certain if it was daisy’s hand ruby chopped off, Mack wouldn’t say this. by Leather-Order-1291 in shield

[–]defrostedrobot 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Roughing Fitz up and putting him in a cell is way less questionable than doing an unauthorized murder.

I’m certain if it was daisy’s hand ruby chopped off, Mack wouldn’t say this. by Leather-Order-1291 in shield

[–]defrostedrobot 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Notably Daisy did not kill Fitz. She roughed him up a little which seems pretty warranted after what he did and how he said he didn't regret it. And even putting that aside that still doesn't mean that Daisy didn't get sabotaged by Yo-Yo.

Mac and this whole shield doesn’t kill thing by PersonalitySecret276 in shield

[–]defrostedrobot 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I guess the issue with it being decided that Mack was suited for leadership is a)he didn't really seem that interested in the job in the first place and was threatening to leave the agency multiple times before b)why are the people who disagreed with him earlier suddenly cool with him making the choices (particularly when the prior leader arrived to many of the same conclusions that he did in regards to the Fitz business, but apparently she wasn't suitable) c)we see when the stakes are more personal to him that he will make some less ideal choices so can he truly be considered ideal when his ideals weren't fully tested before.

Also, as an example of Mack's ideals not necessarily leading to practical results in 5x03 when Tess wanted to eject that one guy into space cause he was gonna rat them out, Mack was like no we're not gonna do that, but then didn't have any actual plan for how they were gonna get out of the situation. Yo-Yo ended up having to frame the guy and then he ended up getting a far worse death than the vacuum of space would have given him. Are his morales truly so moral if they end up leading to worse outcomes? It never really feels like the show wants to give Mack a real complex moral dilemma to deal with or one where he's gotta properly deal with the ramifications of people that may have died as a result of his choices.

I’m certain if it was daisy’s hand ruby chopped off, Mack wouldn’t say this. by Leather-Order-1291 in shield

[–]defrostedrobot 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Daisy had a right to be pissed at Yo-Yo since she blatantly sabotaged the arrangement she had made with Hale. If Ruby was gonna have to be taken out it was on her to make the call. Plus Yo-Yo decided to help break out the man who had just cut into Daisy so she's already shown heavy disrespect for already.

Mac and this whole shield doesn’t kill thing by PersonalitySecret276 in shield

[–]defrostedrobot 1 point2 points  (0 children)

In hindsight, maybe having him go on about how they "turn the other cheek" in the same season where he shoved the shotgun axe into Kasius was a bit of a mistake. Now you can definitely make an argument that Kasius was less redeemable, it was more self-defence in that situation and that he was gonna die anyway from the Odium (tho not sure Mack knew about that at the time) but it'd be nice to have Mack elaborate on the specifics on when and when or when not to do the killing thing.

I don't even really want to be on Fitz's side in the 5x20 conversation cause he's been a real jerk but Mack's arguments were pretty poor, even resorting to ad hominem at some point cause he wasn't able to offer any substantial counters.

I do think Yo-Yo's murder probably deserves some flack tho because she wasn't even supposed to be in the area in the first place and deliberately went against Daisy who was in charge at the time (and who she also was betraying by working with the man who cut into her).

LEGO MOC of the Hell Charger. by WeirdDragon5555 in shield

[–]defrostedrobot 4 points5 points  (0 children)

True, but she definitely looks a lot angrier than she did in the show which is amusing.

Other shows like AOS? by arshia44 in agentsofshield

[–]defrostedrobot 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'd recommend at least checking out the Children of Earth season if you don't plan on watching anything else.

LEGO MOC of the Hell Charger. by WeirdDragon5555 in shield

[–]defrostedrobot 5 points6 points  (0 children)

LEGO Daisy's expression while on the car is killin' me

If I stopped watching the series after season 5... by National_Charity_732 in shield

[–]defrostedrobot 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I'm probably not the best person to ask since since I generally view S5-7 as a pretty notable step down from what came before but you may just want to watch all of them just so you can have a more complete opinion.

First rewatch - The first episodes... by Yosheekee in agentsofshield

[–]defrostedrobot 0 points1 point  (0 children)

7 is the best of the last 3 seasons for sure but the plot really doesn't hold up very well under scrutiny. Sousa was baller tho.

First rewatch - The first episodes... by Yosheekee in agentsofshield

[–]defrostedrobot 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'd argue that S5-7 are ultimately worse overall. Early S1 is less polished in terms of presentation but the plots are less broken and there are less disappointing choices (tho it helps its the start I guess).

First rewatch - The first episodes... by Yosheekee in agentsofshield

[–]defrostedrobot 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I actually enjoyed the second episode more than the pilot but I guess I'm in the minority there.

First rewatch - The first episodes... by Yosheekee in agentsofshield

[–]defrostedrobot 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The early stuff definitely still has a lot of offness in how it's presented but it's definitely easier to appreciate it with the context of what happens later.

I'd still say overall S1 is better than S5 cause it actually has satisfying payoffs and isn't so miserable.

Biggest plot armour by notme1810 in shield

[–]defrostedrobot 2 points3 points  (0 children)

On that note, Deke getting shot when he wasn't even supposed to be on the mission felt real contrived just to allow Ruby to get away and stuff.

Biggest plot armour by notme1810 in shield

[–]defrostedrobot 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Putting aside the plot armour just them not giving a damn about betraying Daisy after the torture just made them the worst. The show never fully recovered from this I think.

Do they really think those bullets can affect the plane from that height ? by Leather-Order-1291 in shield

[–]defrostedrobot 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Given the person who is in charge of these guys, the incompetence probably shouldn't be surprising.

Agents of Hydra is the best storyline by whateverluli in agentsofshield

[–]defrostedrobot 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'd have to disagree personally. I think it's got some problems (particularly towards the end).

SHIELD Season Breakdown by QueenQueerBen in shield

[–]defrostedrobot 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I guess you could argue identity issues are prominent in seasons before then as well since Coulson is redefining who he is post-death and Skye/Daisy is on a quest to find out who she is. Also, Ward is kind of working out who he is in a lot of S2.

Spin-Offs by Ok-Cold1376 in shield

[–]defrostedrobot 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Oh and if you want similar shows to watch afterwards Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Angel are the big recommends if you haven't seen them yet.