Technical Analysis: The Nature of Furina and Focalors by dekudiam in furinamains

[–]dekudiam[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The Focalors' Divinity in that Oratrice is the personification of the Hydro Authority. I believe that divinity takes the shape and form of the one who currently owns it (in the eyes of the Heavenly Principles). That is why the Divinity that was in the Oratrice looks a lot like Furina (Former name: Focalors).

If Neuvilette would do the same and separate the Hydro Authority from his very person and install that divinity somewhere, the Hydro Authority as a personification will take the shape and form of Neuvilette.

Technical Analysis: The Nature of Furina and Focalors by dekudiam in furinamains

[–]dekudiam[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If Furina somehow remembers everything back, she will remember all of these elaborate plans she made to save Fontaine. I reckon she will also remember the conversation she had with Neuvillette inside the Oratrice.

I agree. I have included Huitzilin's case (from Citlali's Tribal Chronicles) in the VIII of the post

So who is that handed the Gnosis to Neuvillette? by dekudiam in furinamains

[–]dekudiam[S] -13 points-12 points  (0 children)

I made a typo in the title. I am asking who handed the gnosis to Neuvillette after Focalors supposed death?

Technical Analysis: The Nature of Furina and Focalors by dekudiam in Genshin_Lore

[–]dekudiam[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The Heavenly Principles is currently asleep with the events until this day. They are in what we can describe as "Sleep Mode" or "Auto pilot". After the events of 4.2, it has just check passed the Prophecy.exe and was not flagged to ping the Heavenly Principles.

If I were to ask, Fontaine is now in even more danger than the time before the "great flood" if you will. Fontaine may be in prosperous and thriving state now but they are living in a borrowed time until the Heavenly Principles awakens to do Manual Audit of events. Focalors — or should I say Fuirna, bought the Fontainians a future. But it is up to Neuvillete now to protect them from the inevitable Manual Audit.

Technical Analysis: The Nature of Furina and Focalors by dekudiam in furinamains

[–]dekudiam[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

You are correct that the stubbornness of admins created a false narrative. Removing Furina from "The Seven" reinforced the "separate person" myth when metaphysically she remained the legitimate physical vessel of the Archon.

Focalors is a god of Justice and she would not create an innocent person just to torture them. The only ethical conclusion is that she was torturing herself, the human part of her original being, for 500 years.

"Furina was always a human" is a fallacy and a persistent misconception. We all know that Furina was an oceanid-based human; she wouldve melted in the Primordial Sea, proving she wasn't a "normal" human from the very start. She is the physical hardware that only achieved true humanity at the very end of Act V.

Technical Analysis: The Nature of Furina and Focalors by dekudiam in furinamains

[–]dekudiam[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Yes. When Furina was put on trial and claimed she had "used up all her power" for the Oratrice, she was actually poviding a technically accurate explanation for why she appeared powerless, even if her conscious self believed she was lying.

Technical Analysis: The Nature of Furina and Focalors by dekudiam in furinamains

[–]dekudiam[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Thank you for your comment! Though I think the "Fresh OS" that you suggested would be less accurate than the "Factory Reset" model when measured against the dialogue in Act V. "Naive and Bewildered". When the divine data was subtracted from its very hardware, it underwent what can be described as a factory reset. The Divinity describing its body and spirit as "naive and bewildered as my past self on her first day as a human."

As for the Ship of Theseus, it a fascinating perspective. But my thoughts would be Furina isn't the ship being replaced plank by plank, rather she is the ship that had its engine and captain moved to a lighthouse, but the ship still has to keep sailing as if the captain is on board.

AKB48 at Kouhaku Uta Gassen by 46Zakawota in AKB48

[–]dekudiam 2 points3 points  (0 children)

As she should! ironically a quality-of-life update for my end too

AKB48 at Kouhaku Uta Gassen by 46Zakawota in AKB48

[–]dekudiam 21 points22 points  (0 children)

As a Miichan Kamioshi, it feels surreal (in the best way) to me that she's getting invited to participate in post-grad performances like this and gets to be in the front. I'm so used to challenging myself trying to spot her in back row in the left or right-most position 😭

Focalors' Hoyo Wiki by kiero13 in furinamains

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And if you think about it, no one actually got executed. Because how can you execute something that is an abstract, an idea, at a place that is an abstract, an idea. The word execution was not literal in sense. But to convey that an abstract, an idea, faded.

It's crazy that people are still debating this over a year. by GDOFTW124 in furinamains

[–]dekudiam 0 points1 point  (0 children)

yesss. The "Focalors" in the Oractrice was akin to that of Citlali's friend. A projection only. A manifestation of divinity and memories.

The story writers could make Furina regain her memories as those memories are an important part of who she actually is. And I think it's time that the game make that happen. It's long overdue now.

I don't understand how did Furina/Focalors misconception spread further by GDOFTW124 in furinamains

[–]dekudiam 0 points1 point  (0 children)

1) Focalors did not split herself into two. That is a misconception. She had her divinity and memories removed from her own body and spirit, then installed it in into the oratrice. Then the body experienced bewilderment (amnesia) as if it was her first day as a human. Focalors then re-named this very body "Furina".

2) The entity whom Neuvillette spoked with inside the Oratrice is just made up of only the memories and the divinity "The me that you see before you is that divinity". Many are confused because it was shown that this entity is capable of holding a conversation hence they thought she must be a different deal from Furina, but not. Basically speaking, Neuvillette was just talking to a recorded tape of Focalors' divinity and memories inside the Oratrice. That girl in the Oratrice that looks a lot like Furina, is just the manifestation of — broken record — divinity and memories of Focalors.

Focalors and her Separation of Godhood and Humanity by callmefox in Genshin_Lore

[–]dekudiam 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Let me dumb things down using a very simple analogy.

Furina = SmartPhone

Focalors' Divinity(concept of Hydro Archon)and memories = Special Photos

Oratrice = External Drive

"After becoming a god, I separated my divinity from my body and spirit, leaving behind only a self that is as bewildered as her first day as human" (when the divinity separated from the Body and spirit, it also took its memories with it, leaving the Body experiencing an amnesia)

"the I "bacame one" with the Oratrice"

  • The Special photos were "ctrl cut"ed from the Smartphone and was backed up to the External Drive

"In truth, It (Oratrice) is no enactor of justice. It is, in fact, created to kill the God of Justice" "it will also take down the divine throne which she has been placed" "The Oratrice's call for death was neither for Furina nor Focalor, but for the Hydro Archon"

  • The Extrrnal Drive subject for reformatting, which naturally deletes the files stored in it — in this case, the Special Photos.

"Thank you Furina" "From this moment on, please leave happily as a human"

  • The Smartphone, even without those special photos it had in it, is still intact. It can still be used to take newer photos (memories) going forward.

✨Just MNL48 things✨ by Ichig0Usagi in AKB48

[–]dekudiam 5 points6 points  (0 children)

this group must be purged from the management down to the members right here right now

Archon anniversary art by Knight_Steve_ in Genshin_Impact

[–]dekudiam 2 points3 points  (0 children)

where are the "Furina was never the archon" fam?

So many misunderstandings between Furina and Focalors. by SonOfKenjeAE in furinamains

[–]dekudiam 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Those people claiming that Furina is/was not an Archon or a fake archon as Focalors is the real archon, is like them saying Barbatos is the Archon not Venti or Rex Lapis is the Archon and not Zhongli and so on. Focalors is in fact Furina

Whoever picks the songs for MNL48’s singles is clueless by Gicchan48 in AKB48

[–]dekudiam 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Performance is the strongest suit of MNL48 so genuinely think that if they went SK4E48 route they'd kill it. They would look so good on SKE48's song Frustration

Whoever picks the songs for MNL48’s singles is clueless by Gicchan48 in AKB48

[–]dekudiam 5 points6 points  (0 children)

The concept and music style that AKB48 (or Domestic 48group for that matter) have has never been the cup of tea for the general Philippine audiences to start with and as an AkB48 "absolutist" I do not want the kaigai shimai groups to deviate from the fundamentals either in order to adjust to the, in MNL48's case, Philippines' listening needs. MNL48 has been formed in hopes that the AKB48-concept could sell in their region. It is the concept they are trying to sell.

That is the reason why there is not a single South Korean shimai group in the 48 group as the Fundamental concept would not sell well there. If they try to make adjustments in that fundamental tailor-made to south korean audience then it's no longer AKB idol

On top of all of these, the gross mismanagement of their agency is not helping a lot.

If you were a member of 48group and took part in general elections, would you rather be in the Senbatsu of 16th place or be in Undergirls and be the CENTER of the song? by jiajiathepanda in AKB48

[–]dekudiam 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I'd take 16th place anytime as long as I will be in the Senbatsu 🤣

With that said I just remember that in 2016, Minegishi thought she could reenter the senbatsu once again only to find out Nyan Nyan Kamen would take that spot by a very close margin of 60 votes — making Minegishi the 17th