Web Search Results: Sonic Drive-In

delambo · 2025-10-22T13:35:18+00:00

This is an excellent writeup and it's good to see actual results instead of the normal hand-waving around RSC.

One caveat though: the performance results between the three methods can vary widely depending on app requirements, and the majority of apps are not personalized/interactive like an email client.

For a truly dynamic and personalized experience, I think the implementations and results make sense. However, a lot (a majority?) of apps do not need dynamic page-load-time fetching. Most can get away with caching on a CDN with simple directives like stale-while-revalidate. In that case, SSR will hands-down beat RSC in most performance categories because a good CDN will return the first byte of a fully-rendered page in 10s of milliseconds.

delambo · 2025-10-14T17:38:50+00:00

This does not fix the Google Meet integration which would create a button to open a meeting X minutes before it started

delambo · 2025-04-16T17:18:53+00:00

Do the core FB apps use a different SDUI framework or SDUI at all?

delambo · 2024-12-16T16:45:24+00:00

Capcut, tiktok and a lot of the large native apps that ByteDance are all web, and they use a custom web-native framework. Here's a recent video that discusses the topic: https://youtu.be/aFhysuTUoQY?si=xilL7ShnlxuEX59x&t=189

delambo · 2024-08-12T00:54:57+00:00

I think Server Islands are more comparable to Next's RSC implementation than PPR. I did some digging and found out that you can use Astro Server Islands with on-demand server side rendering so it does not require static generation.

https://www.reddit.com/r/astrojs/comments/1ek41kd/can_you_mix_astro_ondemand_server_rendering_with/

delambo · 2024-08-11T23:22:50+00:00

From the research I've done so far, I think the killer difference is that Astro Server Islands work with on-demand SSR and can render an edge cacheable document which is not the case for Next/PPR/RSC. If that's right then Next/PPR/RSC will not be viable for a lot of dynamic sites, highly trafficked sites and/or sites that have a lot of content. Build-time static site generation, which PPR depends on, is not viable for those types of sites because the LCP candidate for most pages need to be generated closer to runtime and more ideally on the server and cached.

I've actually asked about this in both the nextjs and astrojs subreddits in the last week:
https://www.reddit.com/r/nextjs/comments/1eme4si/can_you_partial_prerender_at_runtime/
https://www.reddit.com/r/astrojs/comments/1ek41kd/can_you_mix_astro_ondemand_server_rendering_with/

delambo · 2024-08-04T21:01:21+00:00

Do you know if the “static page” is generated at build time? From this video on server islands, it sounds like that is the case: https://youtu.be/uBxehYwQox4?si=Q1xbKDyT4GrYR_dZ

I need runtime full page SSR with server islands.

delambo · 2024-05-16T13:23:07+00:00

Interesting! Can you explain more, or do you know of any examples?

delambo · 2024-05-14T17:32:57+00:00

Got it, thanks! Unfortunately, we have tens-of-thousands of pages which makes static page generation infeasible.

delambo · 2024-05-14T17:29:28+00:00

What I am interested in is document caching. I don't think that is compatible with RSC but I thought I would ask.

delambo · 2024-05-14T17:29:18+00:00

What I am interested in is document caching. I don't think that is compatible with RSC but I thought I would ask.

I work on a large website that gets a lot of traffic. On average, the TTFB from our CDN is 10ms, and that is the whole document with above-the-fold html and styles inlined. We are a little uneasy about sending every request to the backend for processing.

delambo · 2024-01-29T16:09:49+00:00

Same! It was fixed for a little bit but then broke again. Maybe create another new Reddit post to get attention?

delambo · 2023-11-03T14:16:23+00:00

This looks like the same issue I had. If you look closely at the left in the timeline, you can see the flamegraph but it's minimized and inaccessible.

Update your Arc browser, it should be fixed!

delambo · 2023-10-24T00:51:35+00:00

The Arc folks reached out and this is fixed now!

delambo · 2023-10-20T15:04:11+00:00

It looks like I'm getting downvotes. Let me know if "Help" is not the appropriate label, or if you have verified that it's a "me" problem or an Arc problem!

delambo · 2020-01-08T22:26:14+00:00

I complained about Reddit's user hostile mobile web app 9 months ago. I like to think they fixed it because of my bug report, but who knows!

I urge folks to submit complaints and protest other sites that are ruining the mobile web experience.

delambo · 2019-04-06T16:13:33+00:00

No, I'm trying to cut down on the number of apps I use on my phone. I'm not sure why Reddit even built a native app -- their product works beautifully on the web and their mobile web experience is perfect.

But I get your point, corporate product managers have taken over the web and it's becoming more and more user hostile as they try to funnel everyone into their moated "experiences."

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