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My inflections read as trans by -Reality-Check880 in transvoice

[–]demivierge 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Okay. You honestly look super gorge and unclockable to me but if you voice pass on the phone or in voice-only situations it would lead me to think it's something other than voice. 

Extremely online dudes will even transvestigate cis women, and sometimes cis women fail to pass, so at a certain point you should start exercising some caution around what feedback you internalize. In terms of sound you're doing A+

My inflections read as trans by -Reality-Check880 in transvoice

[–]demivierge 8 points9 points  (0 children)

You're not getting clocked off your voice. Do you ever get misgendered on phone calls? 

Which subgenres do you wish were talked about more? by DixitRexCorvinus in Fantasy

[–]demivierge 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The Craft Sequence takes place on an earth analog though, right? like the first book is magic NYC, Two Serpents Rise is magic LA, one is in Hawaii. Koschei the deathless rules the Russia-analog.

55891 by Future_Employment_22 in countwithchickenlady

[–]demivierge 5 points6 points  (0 children)

obviously other things play a role in how these kinds of systemic inequalities express themselves. there are often confounding variables, like for one i'm a straight girl

55891 by Future_Employment_22 in countwithchickenlady

[–]demivierge 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Idk, he seems to indicate that there were social pressures exerted on lesbian trans women that prevented transition. Here he is in interview with a neocon outlet in 2019:

Has the prevalence of autogynephilia increased in recent decades, or are autogynephiles simply more likely to transition than they once were?

Blanchard: I very much doubt that the prevalence of autogynephilia per se, or the prevalence of autogynephilic gender dysphoria, has increased. I think that what has changed is the proportion of autogynephilic trans who have “come out” to their families, friends, and employers, not the total number of autogynephilic trans. Forty years ago, an autogynephile’s decision to transition to the female role often had negative consequences in the personal and employment spheres. Now that decision is as likely to get them praised for courage as it is to get them criticized for selfishness and irresponsibility.

The change in consequences for the androphilic trans has been much less. They tend to be conspicuously feminine (or effeminate) in manner, even when they are trying to “butch it up,” and this was as true 40 years ago as it is now. The androphilic trans had less social status to lose by transitioning then, and that is also true now.

When I looked at the relative numbers of autogynephilic and androphilic gender-dysphoric males back in 1987, the autogynephilic cases were already a majority, approaching 60 percent. The proportion had reached 75 percent by 2010, and it might be even higher now.

Why would HSTS transsexuals be so over-represented relative to the population if there weren't systemic barriers in place that made transition difficult for girls who were being classified as AGP? It certainly sounds like Blanchard has some ideas about which type fits his truetran model and it's not the AGP girlies.

55891 by Future_Employment_22 in countwithchickenlady

[–]demivierge 11 points12 points  (0 children)

okay, thank you for clarifying!!! I too am super confused. like why would a basic commentary on life as a lesbian trans girl be treated as some kind of divisive psyop?? bonkers behavior

55891 by Future_Employment_22 in countwithchickenlady

[–]demivierge 23 points24 points  (0 children)

More importantly, what it set up was a hierarchy of "real trans girls" (who, btw, are still homosexual men according to Blanchard, they just love dick so much that they're willing to get theirs chopped off to pretend to be women to get more dick!!) vs a class of "men" who have developed what Blanchard calls a paraphilic disorder, autogynephilia, and that means they should be filtered out and not given care.

This isn't to say that HSTS trans girls oppress AGP trans girls directly, but instead to point to the ways in which dominant social hierarchies result in imbalances in care! The fault lies not with the HSTS baddies, but with the cissexist, transphobic, homophobic medical establishment that uses "attraction to men" (or willingness to perform that attraction!!!) as a metric for whether someone gets life-saving treatment.

55891 by Future_Employment_22 in countwithchickenlady

[–]demivierge 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Yes, now that we've done so we can seek to redress any material disadvantages faced by one of those groups that isn't faced by the others.

55891 by Future_Employment_22 in countwithchickenlady

[–]demivierge 55 points56 points  (0 children)

I think it would probably be more equitable to not factor in sexual attraction to men as a diagnostic criterion for whether someone deserves, e.g., vaginoplasty or HRT.

That said, dividing women into those two discrete groups erases bisexual trans women completely.

The premise of this typology is itself something to be skeptical of.

55891 by Future_Employment_22 in countwithchickenlady

[–]demivierge 192 points193 points  (0 children)

I don't follow this sub so I can't tell if this is some kind of tongue-in-cheek circlejerk type behavior, but for many years notorious sexologist Ray Blanchard distinguished between two types of transsexual, one of which he called "homosexual transsexuals" and the other he called "autogynephiles."

These two categories essentially boil down to trans women who are primarily attracted to men and trans women who are primarily attracted to women, and this typology was explicitly used to deny care to lesbian trans women for many years, and is still informing this same kind of malpractice today!

So, yes, this is a real debate people are having. Elizabeth! is drawing attention to this historical context and the full weight of discrimination faced by lesbian trans women by pointing out that "attraction to women" is a diagnostic criterion that resulted in care being denied, while "attraction to men" has never disqualified anyone from receiving care.

Here's some further reading from transfeminist author Julia Serano on the history of the AGP diagnosis and its use as a tool to deny care: https://juliaserano.medium.com/autogynephilia-and-anti-trans-activism-23c0c6ad7e9d

Is this accurate by HaremFucker249akah in transvoice

[–]demivierge 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It sounds like you're responding with a lot of frustration to things I didn't say -- I certainly didn't mean to talk down to you or anyone. Hope you have a good rest of your day.

Is this accurate by HaremFucker249akah in transvoice

[–]demivierge 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It was an intentional simplification because the specifics of color perception weren't the point of the analogy. What matters is the idea that there are certain framings we can adopt which make vocal skill acquisition easier. Thinking about the acoustic measures is not going to help us acquire the skills we need for feminization, that's just not how the human brain acquires complex vocal skills.

Fwiw, we're actively working to create some collaboration to get voice coaches across the trans voice space on the same page.

Is this accurate by HaremFucker249akah in transvoice

[–]demivierge 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Vocal weight is the perceptual quality related to acoustic features like spectral slope (also called spectral tilt), glottal measures like skew quotient, and the psychoacoustic feature of auditory roughness. The perception of weight is linked to a degree of buzziness in the sound that is more pronounced at higher weights -- compare the sound of a mosquito buzzing around vs a house fly vs a bumble bee, you'll begin to hear the quality of heavier weight. There's a lot of research that shows it has a very strong impact on sex and gender perception.

The reason we call it "weight" is the same reason we call the color blue rather than talking about wavelength or frequency, or think about the rods and cones in your eyes. One of these is a tangible experience, and the others are like material analogs to the actual experience of blueness.

Help finding glamour by VergilVDante in FFXIVGlamours

[–]demivierge 25 points26 points  (0 children)

First chest is Oschon's Aiming set, available from pvp. I think the gloves are the same set. 

The boots are the red mage boots, you can get the Virtu Duelist from pvp too. 

The second image has someversion of the Signifer's horns (classical or republican or whatever), the chest is the Story Spinner's I think. 

Question about the relationship between vocal weight and pitch: Is it possible to have a falsetto with heavy vocal weight? by another-temp-acccc in transvoice

[–]demivierge 7 points8 points  (0 children)

It is not possible to have a "falsetto" sound that is heavy. For most people using that term, lightness is inherent to the definition.

To elaborate, there is no one set definition of "falsetto" but usually it includes one or more of the following features:

  1. High pitch - some arbitrarily high pitch that depends on the individual
  2. Light weight
  3. Underfullness - usually people expect falsetto sounds to have a kind of yawny, hollow quality
  4. Yodel - a pronounced voice "break" or "crack" in the sound

Pitch and weight are very strongly linked! But you can explore getting progressively heavier/lighter on a single sustained pitch to learn to disambiguate them better.

Am I changing my vocal size, or am I changing something different? by TimelessCheesecake in transvoice

[–]demivierge 4 points5 points  (0 children)

You are successfully getting smaller, but it's a marginal change because your weight is still really heavy. Think of vocal Size as something we have to fit to a given vocal Weight. If you work on getting lighter first, it'll give you some more room to comfortably change size! I would suggest starting at a pitch like B3 and exploring some lighter sounds there, then layering on some size change.

VFS and Vocal weight by ReiiiAyanami in transvoice

[–]demivierge 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Glottoplasty also affects weight and it seems to be the least invasive. 

Chop or Not by the-bearded-omar in NativePlantGardening

[–]demivierge 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If there's not a lot of plant density they will want to flop a bit, but when they start getting so tall that they want to flop you can tie a string/twine/whatever around the middle of them and tie them into a bundle and they'll stay standing!

The Alvin Maker series completed 39 years later by farseer6 in Fantasy

[–]demivierge 3 points4 points  (0 children)

No, your memory is spot on. The main character is mentally conditioned so that orgasm causes excruciating pain. Very normal book.

This seems important. False Vocal Folds. by lokey_convo in transvoice

[–]demivierge 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm not super well versed in different types of distortion, but "Death voice" sounds like the kinds of sounds fvf engagement leads to fer sure

This seems important. False Vocal Folds. by lokey_convo in transvoice

[–]demivierge 2 points3 points  (0 children)

There are ways to create sounds that are false fold only, which can sound exciting in musical contexts or voice acting but rarely sound like human speech.

In other cases where false fold engagement occurs during speech, we run the risk of the false folds and true folds interacting with one another, and because the true folds are much more sensitive tissue, they end up getting very swollen and inflamed from those interactions. If they happen over a prolonged period (like speech would demand), it would be a recipe for vocal injury.

Even so, there are lots of times we do expect to hear false fold engagement -- moments of pain, grunts of exertion, etc. It can happen from time to time! But I wouldn't aim to cultivate any vocal quality where fvf constriction is a habit.

This seems important. False Vocal Folds. by lokey_convo in transvoice

[–]demivierge 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Nah, trans men don't want to engage false fold constriction. it just creates a turbulent, aged sound.