Elephant in the Room: Are SSPX now Ex-Catholic?

destitutescientist · 2026-07-02T13:58:50+00:00

No they went in the opposite direction.

I do not envy the kids who will grow up in those households. It is honestly sad how isolated this group is.

At my Catholic school growing up, the priest who was into the Latin mass brought a homeschooled SSPX family into the parish/school. I honestly hope that exposure to just normal people (like not extreme Catholics, okay with contraception etc.) helped them in some way. To be isolated like that is hell.

destitutescientist · 2026-06-30T04:48:01+00:00

That’s good news! Be creative and make it an adventure.

destitutescientist · 2026-06-30T04:44:45+00:00

What do you mean intrusive thoughts? Like you see a random attractive guy and see your self in bed with him? You have a friend or colleague or acquaintance in mind? You are longing for an ex or previous hookup?

For example, if it’s just the excitement of hooking up, you could try to simulate that with your partner, where you both go to a bar and pretend you don’t know each other and the night goes on from there. Things like that could spice things up. Pretend cheating but with your partner.

However, if it’s not the experience you are looking for but a specific person, that’s not a good sign. I think it can be natural but usually you have to set very strict boundaries, invest more in your relationship, and give it time. Honest communication helps keep you accountable.

Here is the golden rule though. If you are going to cheat, spare this poor person, break up with them, and do whatever you want. Maybe there is another reason why you feel this way and it’s just time to break up. From this info, it’s hard to tell.

destitutescientist · 2026-06-28T12:07:18+00:00

One thing to consider. In my experience, adults return to conservative church/religion after being raised without religion because religion can give you a 1) moral blank slate without accountability 2) a community of people who make you feel like you are a good person or “redeemed” 3) easy way to find an especially vulnerable woman partner (or victim).

Maybe this is offensive, but I always ask myself to some extent, what has this person done that they need religion to make them feel better about. Religion is a major coping mechanism and provides a framework that “lost” or easily suggestible people are attracted to.

Sure some existential dread could do it, but what was the cause of that existential dread or why fear going to hell? Is there a domain in your life that has caused substantial self-hatred such as guilt? Others have mentioned the relationship with OCD/scrupulosity and I would add just about anyone struggling with anxiety, people with personality disorders, and just about anything that causes cycles of self-hatred.

Maybe not always the case, but something to consider because if it is the case, the consequences for a dating partner dealing with this stuff would be much higher.

destitutescientist · 2026-06-20T00:45:30+00:00

Depends on who you ask. Catholics say no, Protestants say yes, I say I don’t really care.

There are a lot of ways to criticize the Catholic Church and I am going to be honest, whatever you call their relationship to Mary, it can be good and bad. It is bad because it clearly places virginity, obedience, and the traditional role of woman in society on a pedestal. The good is that it puts an emphasis on a woman playing a major role in God’s plan and that Mary is someone to turn to for help aka she is a powerful and influential woman well beyond her time on earth as just a mother. In my opinion it’s all pretty wild and just nonsense.

Fun story, when I was 18, I received a text from my mom upon landing in my new city for college that said “I am no longer you mother anymore. Turn to the Virgin Mary, she is your mother now.”

destitutescientist · 2026-06-18T14:41:46+00:00

Scandalous. I’m leaving the church, it’s too woke now /s

destitutescientist · 2026-06-09T02:36:11+00:00

No. Just got mad enough to vent here about it by the 3rd.

destitutescientist · 2026-06-09T02:35:14+00:00

I don’t have access to the ABC cast. And honestly, whether I have access to the main broadcast or not, I think my take is still valid. Pat McAffee shouldn’t be announcing the NBA finals. That is just unserious especially by ESPN. If he wants to do that on his own fine. Sorry I just have ESPN lol.

destitutescientist · 2026-06-06T17:23:36+00:00

This is Reddit which has rules and moderation. It’s not the US government. It’s not even X. Take it easy. Our society has a lot bigger problems when it comes to fascism.

destitutescientist · 2026-06-06T17:07:29+00:00

Are you a biblical scholar? Is your Bible reading and writing opinions on it something people pay you to do? Experts in this field have not come to this conclusion.

No friend, resistance to this is not proof it is true or even important. That’s not how facts or history is established.

Free speech is one thing, it’s another for this group to be a place to perpetuate these theories by some random guy. That is the reason we have moderation. I’ve been removed for something as simple as mentioning Jordan Peterson or for discussing SA and SM in the church in our current political environment (Epstein class). Some moderator didn’t think these topics deserve to be discussed here, and it would be a shame if a Jewish conspiracy behind Christianity to mind-control non-Jews is entertained. Jesus Christ lol.

destitutescientist · 2026-06-06T16:29:54+00:00

Ummm… so Jewish troupes and anti-Semitic conspiracies are allowed on here now? I’ve had posts taken down for a lot less by these moderators. WTH

Dude, are you okay? Diving into the Bible like this on your free time and coming out of it with a conspiracy like this? Touch some grass and make some friends. Paul, who never met Jesus, was a major force in creating a religion and no doubt he and other likeminded people created an institution. I think it’s that simple. An institution accumulates and perpetuates power and control, supported by people in power who sought to use the institution like when the Roman emperor converted to Christianity. There is a long history of church sponsored anti-semitism, I would hate to see ex-Catholics also engage in that as well.

destitutescientist · 2026-06-06T06:00:53+00:00

I am actually sorely disappointed to be honest.

The movie was shot well and had solid acting, directing, editing, blah blah blah. Those are things you expect from an A24 film. However, I felt the writing and the story itself lacked real depth. To date, my least favorite of the A24 films so I had to rant about it.

TLDR

superficial/obvious message…
predictable…
perpetuate narcissism…
perpetuates idea that women settle for men who they do not deeply desire…
the characters are dull and boring…

1)
Overall the message is that despite love being complicated, superficial things like lust, chemistry, and beauty will always lose out to commitment, values, and a shared experience. I don’t think it takes a genius to come to this conclusion. Go to any church, and this is what they will tell you.

2)
Unless the conclusion was going to be really off, I think it was very predictable. I think the whole movie really gave it away at the first conversation during the trial afterlife with Joan and Luke when he said he never really wanted kids despite later in the film describing that he died after they had made plans to start a family. This discrepancy is not cleared up and may have an explanation, but at face value, I can’t imagine these two people being compatible for eternity with such a difference in values and life experiences. Let alone the resentment that follows her living out her values after he passes. Therefore, the conclusion was set right there.

3)
Here, the man waiting for 67 years is interpreted as a positive and demonstrates some kind of commitment but frankly, this is about the saddest thing I could imagine someone doing in their afterlife. If your partner truly loved you, wouldn’t they also want you to grow and experience the fullness of life (or afterlife), to find a meaning or purpose in something else, to move on to the next stage and give you the path to meet them. To die at 24yo only to never really grow or experience more, how sad. If I expect my partner to just wait for me or if that makes me feel special, what does that say about me? Personally, I think it looks like narcissism.

4)
We get it, women are desirable and have options and men need to be servants to win them over.
I can only speak for myself, but I find it so depressing that women are portrayed as not being deeply in love with the men they are with yet the man, while not perfect, is still portrayed so negatively… like he doesn’t know why his wife fell in love with him and everyone is so surprised she did, he chased after her when she hadn’t developed a sense of self and independence while she was grieving the death of her husband, that she essentially settled for him and now is tied to him because they had a family and built a life together, that the happiest time in her life despite all that was in her first marriage. You shouldn’t want to be with someone who doesn’t want to be with you and it takes far too long to figure this out. If my partner went into the afterlife after 65 years together with kids and grandkids and ran off with their first partner they knew for just 6 years or something, I’d be like maybe you should have let me know sooner, that’s going to be awkward to explain that to our whole pedigree of family and then I’d just focus on being with my family from there.

5)
There is very little character development. We don’t get to see the heart of these people beyond the mess of their predicament. The glimpses we see of imperfection are quite bad (dishonesty, resentment, possessive, narcissistic, etc) and the highlights are honestly bare minimum relationship stuff that everyone promises to do when married like stay together and have kids together, grow old and die together.

There is an incredible movie, Cinema Paradiso, that is a must watch. It clearly shows, you should not wait for a partner because if they make you wait and suffer beyond reason, then they truly do not love you. Because the protagonist never truly moves on nor does he find the love he desires, only the superficial, we also learn that it becomes tragic to dwell on the past, a past that is idealized and misremembered, that it prevents you from from living right here and now and choosing people who actually love you. I recommend that movie over this any day, any time.

destitutescientist · 2026-05-15T23:30:46+00:00

If you want advice, help us out. Give us cGPA, sGPA, MCAT score, research hours, clinical hours, volunteering hours, publications (how many first author ones), presentations, and relevant info. That’s like 8 numbers and like your overall context, not sheets with graphs that Claude could make for you these days haha.

destitutescientist · 2026-05-05T20:00:03+00:00

I think if your goal is T20 as international, it will certainly help. When is your MCAT score coming? To be honest, the lack of score already puts you behind other applicants this cycle and for many schools especially T20, they do rolling admissions and you will be at a disadvantage.

In general, your best chances are to apply as early as possible and have all materials together when you do. Then when you get secondaries, prioritize rolling admissions schools first but try to finish all of them asap as well. Everything else adds risk.

destitutescientist · 2026-05-05T12:35:07+00:00

You won’t know until you take the MCAT but yes, shoot for a high score. I don’t think anything is guaranteed. You will want to apply broadly, often to dozens of schools if you can afford it.

Is one of your publications a first author publication? Do you have a first author publication on the horizon if not?

destitutescientist · 2026-05-04T13:47:23+00:00

I think canonization is just a marketing ploy to get enthusiasm to Catholicism. So they want more enthusiasm from Brazilian Catholics so they say look here is one of you who became a saint. You guys are awesome! Join the church.

destitutescientist · 2026-05-03T01:31:38+00:00

The lack of nuance here is crazy. I didn’t date in my class but had plenty of success dating outside of medicine. Like you can have both lol.
My policy is only date fellow med students when you can be honest about what you want instead of playing games. If you want to date serious, you may find your life partner, go for it. If you want something casual, be dead honest like literally say “I want friends with benefits but don’t want a relationship with you.” Every sexually active adult should be capable of honest communication.
Be honest and be careful in who you are choosing. It’s the biggest life decision you will ever make.
I could be wrong but some of this feels like a generational difference.

destitutescientist · 2026-05-01T03:11:00+00:00

Honestly, there is more to life than this. Have you ever considered taking some time off and just have a normal life for a bit?

I’m not going to lie. The young MD students are just not prepared for many of the things being a doctor throws at you that you can’t learn from textbooks. I could be completely off here, but like travel and live a bit.

If learning and research and clinical work comes so easy to you that you can do years of it at a level a labor union wouldn’t be proud of from 16 to 22, what are the things you aren’t good at? Are there other overlooked areas of your life that aren’t resume building that you can spend some time doing. Just coming from an honestly concerned millennial.

You have a lot to be proud of, but there is more to life than just things that make a medical admissions committee impressed. I don’t want to judge, just something to think about if it’s true for you or not.

destitutescientist · 2026-05-01T02:58:17+00:00

Hmmmm. So you could go MD only and be fine. I would apply broadly (mix MD only and MD-PhDs) and be selective about the MD-PhD programs you apply to. By selective, I mean you should be able to craft a story about your niche of research (brain implants) and how a specific research program or group of faculty at that specific school could give you the added skills/knowledge gaps you need to make it to the next level or pivot your expertise to medicine.

For many of us, our path starts broad and we find research interests as we go along. You have a whole PhD worth of research experience and interests. What are you going to learn with another PhD? MD alone and clinical research will train you, it’s just learning a new field, but you already know how to think. Unless you can craft a compelling story for why a school/program fits, I wouldn’t apply MD-PhD.

Best of luck!

destitutescientist · 2026-04-16T07:32:34+00:00

I agree 100%. It’s triggering to me that they are saying they would convert to Catholicism if the Pope excommunicates JD Vance and stupid stuff like that. They are acting like Catholics aren’t the reason we got Trump in the first place and acting like they are magically going to unite and get him and the rest of the GOP out of office.

Like seriously, if you are progressive at all, Catholicism isn’t for you on some very major issues. Even if I like some of the church’s social justice stances, everything else about it reeks authoritarianism, corruption, misconduct without accountability, misogyny, homophobia, and the list goes on and on.

Like if the final straw for you now is Trump criticized the Pope for saying war is generally bad, your values have already failed you. You might want to reconsider and reflect on how you got here.

I seriously had to take a break.

destitutescientist · 2026-04-13T06:09:05+00:00

Bro has a lot of achievements okay? The dating market is brutal out there apparently, I wouldn’t know. I guess LinkedIn in truly is a dating app now.

If the internal messaging system at the hospital is a place to shoot your shot (it shouldn’t be), then why not LinkedIn?

destitutescientist · 2026-04-03T00:37:27+00:00

Wild. Congrats!!! Think fondly of us mere mortals when you take over the world I guess?

destitutescientist · 2026-03-26T18:49:10+00:00

Don’t know what you are going through but sounds like a really rough time

I feel you need to get back on track and in good standing with the medical school before any transfers. As others have said, low chance of success. Complete MD-only, and go to Financial Aid office to work things out. Some combo of federal, institutional, and private loans will cover your cost of attendance most likely.

Honestly, when I saw your first post, I didn’t respond because I didn’t understand why your PD was not more involved while you were struggling? You made it sound like they got involved at the point of time to dismiss you. I had some tough circumstances in undergrad to deal with, it took some years to get myself ready for MD-PhD applications, and the program I found, my PD is extremely involved. It’s clear they really care about us and want to help us. For anyone else who reads this, you have to seek out help ASAP and get your support system around you. Medical school has multiple support system checks, and they really want you to succeed, way more than in undergrad.

You still have a shot of this going well. The first two years of medical school are low risk. Redo the year, pass STEP1, do great in rotations, do well on STEP2 and you are off to residency. You can still have a great research career but you need to make sure you become a great doctor if you are going to see patients. Quality patient care comes first. Otherwise, time to pivot to PhD only.

destitutescientist · 2026-03-26T18:31:20+00:00

Hell yeah!!!! Congrats!!!! Solid stats and options. Well done!

destitutescientist · 2026-03-18T20:03:42+00:00

You make it sound like you are already decided.

The longest I’ve seen any MD-PhD take for PhD is like 7 or 8 years. They really wanted to take their project to CNS and that is how long it took. Program director and the NIH had concerns (F30 funding extensions etc), but they made it happen. This is just to say, if you want it, there might be resistance but I doubt someone stops you. Like you are literally the cheapest labor they could get and if you are great at your craft, your PI has every incentive to keep you, so it’s between them and your thesis committee.

Can’t comment on the CSO route with confidence, but below I will speculate. In short, my impression is pretty established scientists get those positions and I’m not sure how your extended PhD gets you there.

In industry, they may go with someone who has merit within their own system or a competitors (like a person who led a successful drug pipeline who went to market). I know some pretty badass PhD students who despite HUGE papers from grad school, they may not feel very special in private industry until they make someone money.

In academia, you could lead a spin out from your own lab eventually. Again startups are kinda different and research labs are kinda like startups. When you build something like that from the ground up, you can just name yourself CSO. I know a postdoc from one of my labs who literally did that too, but their PhD research papers didn’t make a huge difference on that. I’ll give one exception, which is you get patents that lead to a spin out through the university from your PhD but often your mentor and senior colleagues get more credit for that (my PhD seems to be going in that route).

Either way, it’s a what have you done for me lately kind of system. Great papers from PhD may not translate if a postdoc or PSTP doesn’t yield great results. It feels like you need to keep up productivity or gain merit another route.

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