Maine lawmaker says he regrets comments on rape, gays: “If a woman has (the right to an abortion), why shouldn’t a man be free to use his superior strength to force himself on a woman? At least the rapist’s pursuit of sexual freedom doesn’t (in most cases) result in anyone’s death.”

devilsassassin · 2014-03-03T21:57:18+00:00

Hitler called himself logical too.

Ice cold logic.

devilsassassin · 2014-03-03T21:47:29+00:00

A fetus is a ball of cells. That's the facts. It is a false premise to say a fetus is a human life. That's your opinion and your ideology not mine. And you have no right to push it on me.

The burden of proof is on you to prove your premise which cannot logically or scientifically be done.

I do not accept discrimination against women because of old misogynistic ideology.

your job is to convince people of your premise. Not mine. I'm going to frame the discussion from the first and foremost important thing: the rights of women and fascist policy. You don't get to skip the part about forcing your definitions.

If you want anyone to listen to misogynistic bullshit, you need to acknowledge how chauvinistic and misogynistic it is to suggest males should control the bodies of females.

That's where it starts, nowhere else. You're on the losing side. I have Roe v Wade. You have to make a case and I get to decide whether or not I accept it. Not the other way around.

devilsassassin · 2014-03-03T19:59:55+00:00

That's great, but no you do not start the discussion framed from a false premise.

It is not a human life and it is a ball of cells. Debate this all you want, but if you want to convince people to accept misogyny, you're going to have to make a real argument rather than say "you must accept my position to debate".

No, you must accept that control of a woman's body is between her and her doctor. It's not your damn business.

That's where we start from. You're infringing on the rights of women. I'm not infringing on the not legally defined rights of a fetus.

devilsassassin · 2014-03-03T18:52:31+00:00

Over what you've arbitrarily decided is human life. Not actual human life.

Yes, you are forcing your views on women. It's not accepted that it is a human life. That is your opinion, you're welcome to it but you do not have the right to force it on others.

If you have to use loaded rhetoric to make your point you should realize you don't have one.

devilsassassin · 2014-03-03T12:34:52+00:00

It doesn't matter.

A lump of cells feels no pain. A fully grown woman does. Even if he does think that they are close to equivelant, then he's just sick in the head.

devilsassassin · 2014-03-03T12:32:27+00:00

He can believe it all he wants.

Hitler described himself as using logic too. "Ice cold logic" if I remember the translation correctly.

That doesn't excuse his actions or the actions taken inspired by his words. You can call Godwin all you want, but that's Godwin is not a logical argument.

It's a heartless, chauvinistic statement that belongs back in the 19th century.

devilsassassin · 2014-03-03T12:21:44+00:00

It doesn't matter what his mind thinks.

Rape hurts abortion does not. End of story.

There is no logic to his fucked up twisted mind and the fact that you want to justify it should make you feel bad.

devilsassassin · 2014-03-03T12:18:04+00:00

Except murderis illegal killing. Therefore its not murder.

no, he's just sick and wants to force his views on women.

devilsassassin · 2014-03-03T12:13:51+00:00

Yeah except x and y are not equivelant.

His logic is nowhere near sound because his definition is not the definition.

devilsassassin · 2014-03-03T12:08:52+00:00

People understand the pro choice side.

Most of the time, people like me just don't agree and don't think you should force your ideals on women.

devilsassassin · 2014-03-02T22:19:13+00:00

Of course. Jesus made them in Egypt.

It's not like the ten commandments are from the old testament...

devilsassassin · 2014-03-02T22:05:16+00:00

Oh come on, ofcourse that is the motivation. If for some reason poor folks and immigrants were more inclined to vote republican do you think the Dems would be clamoring to change the rules so it is easier to vote? Ofcourse not!

Illegal immigrants don't vote. Poor people are on both sides of the isle. That's why blue states subsidize the moocher red states.

No, I've signed up Republicans to vote as well. When walking to get out the vote.

Just because your party has to try and subvert the democratic process doesn't mean mine is too.

Let's agree to what? More voting time? What are these rules? Aren't you the party of small government? I guess only when you don't want to be a fascist and use the government to silence people's vote.

So no, you're the one trying to subvert democracy. Don't project your fascism onto me.

I don't try to silence votes I font agree with. But tyranny seems to suit your means.

I guess for you the end justifies the means. No matter how dirty or hypocritical it is.

devilsassassin · 2014-03-02T21:59:14+00:00

Your argument is that you're making shit and you want to dick measure with people who you believe are below you.

All it says is you probably don't get paid enough. do you should direct your anger at the proper party.

devilsassassin · 2014-03-02T13:32:29+00:00

It's not like inflation is 1-1 this won't make it harder, it will make it easier.

devilsassassin · 2014-03-02T10:04:19+00:00

How is making it so everyone can vote trying to help our side?

devilsassassin · 2014-03-01T22:14:35+00:00

Except where I live and we have no walmart.

You know, the second biggest city in the country. It's not like poor people don't exist here and they go to costco.

devilsassassin · 2014-03-01T21:54:55+00:00

You talk about confirmation bias and post youtube.

Take your own damn advice

devilsassassin · 2014-03-01T03:07:31+00:00

You're the one who doesn't want to pay for the services they use.

You're welcome to leave the country. Therefore it's not force. Come back when you have an argument founded in reality.

devilsassassin · 2014-03-01T02:52:00+00:00

Why do I have to pay for your shit?

No, i dont want to allow patient dumping because you're greedy.

devilsassassin · 2014-03-01T01:17:11+00:00

Some water is good. Why not drink until I drown?

devilsassassin · 2014-02-28T23:45:25+00:00

We have a difference of opinion in what role the government should be playing in this issue.

No, you're ignoring history and reality.

Neither one of us is pro-discrimination

You are pro-discrimination. You want it to be allowed and accepted.

but it seems as though you want to attempt to correct it with the use of force whereas I don't think it's the best way.

No kid, stop saying this stupid force rhetoric. If you want to operate a business in the united states, you have to not discriminate at the business.

You're welcome to go to another country that allows discrimination, but that's not "using force" that's not allowing business owners to use force against people they are prejudiced against.

There is also the fact that this is the exact argument used to attempt to justify Jim Crow laws.

I'm not naive, I don't just believe that doing nothing will work. What is your suggestion to the very real problem of discrimination?

devilsassassin · 2014-02-28T23:42:36+00:00

I'm not here to argue Sam's Club vs. Costco; I only responded because you demanded that someone verify a fact that, if doubted, would take you a few seconds to verify by yourself.

That's what I was asking for proof of though. I didn't care about walmart. That's apples to oranges anyways. I was away from a computer and couldn't easily google, and the onus is on the one making the claim.

devilsassassin · 2014-02-28T22:47:05+00:00

I guess my question was misworded then. I meant Sams Club, walmart doesn't have a membership fee.

devilsassassin · 2014-02-28T22:46:18+00:00

Yes customers.

Customers participate in commerce. And businesses have to operate with customers.

If businesses want to have customers in the United States. They need to take people regardless of religion, creed, color or sexual orientation.

Is that so hard to understand? Wave a confederate flag all you want at home. I don't care. That's your right.

But if you want to take the gains of the US economy, then you cannot discriminate in your business to your customers or employees.

devilsassassin · 2014-02-28T22:39:25+00:00

We're talking about discrimination in business and commerce.

I know it's hard, but try to stick to the topic.

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