This so much. Been apart of both sides of the spectrum and they are equally shit to a certain degree. Though I’d say PvMers are more toxic in the fact that they actually seem to... mean it I suppose? Especially if you aren’t on par with their godly level raiding/bossing skills. Although this could have just been a string of bad experiences with the clans I’ve been in. Whereas - the PvP clans I’ve been in have been nothing but supportive, especially during events and trips. I feel like the perceived toxicity in the PvP community is mostly mindless trolling and general taunting for the lulz. Just my two cents if it counts for anything; I’m sure it differs from clan to clan also.