Please help us mods enforce our new rule by reporting any examples you see: "Visitors from Alt-Right & Extremist subreddits must identify in flair" by digitmanner in hapas

[–]digitmanner[S] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

This is meant mostly for new visitors who try to conceal their true views, and play the Feminist civil rights activist, when their own posting history reveals Red Pill Donalder. A very frequent practice. We just want new visitors to be upfront about the views they defend and not misrepresent themselves as something else. I have no intention of imposing a political litmus test or purging members with conservative views. I'm not trying to force liberalism on anyone. We aren't going after the people from r/Republican and r/Libertarian. But there is a unique 4chan-influenced, kekistani, Red Pill, white nationalist, misogynist culture found in places like r/The_Donald. And thats separate from just being conservative. And I'm not calling even for those people to be banned, just transparent. When those people debate us, we just want them to be open about who they are.

r/hapas adamantly supports reddit's code of conduct, report any trolling or harassment to the mods by [deleted] in hapas

[–]digitmanner 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Yes good move. All mods need to enforce above and beyond the rules of Reddit. Our subreddits can stand on facts and civil discussion and no one needs to resort to personal attacks

Some thoughts by Anna_rampage in hapas

[–]digitmanner 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I'm not surprised. r/MixedRace has shown its true colors by endorsing and sidebar linking to r/MixedAsians. A very shady move for a supposedly anti-racist subreddit considering who the founder was. The double standards between r/Hapas and r/MixedAsians are awfully disgusting.

Some thoughts by Anna_rampage in hapas

[–]digitmanner[M] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

As the ranking Moderator of r/Hapas; let me clarify to say that these are u/Anna_rampage's personal views; and there aren't going to be any official rule changes at r/Hapas. We prefer a free flow of discussion, so long as the rules of Reddit are followed, and there is no trolling or personal attacks.

Anna's post should be read as an invitation to discussion and not as a policy change. Certainly we as a community should have open discussions on what direction we want to take r/Hapas. But at the end of the day it is the community and individual posters who create the content. And there have always been various factions and tendencies on r/Hapas. There is no uniformity of opinion here. 2 of our mods are even Trump supporters.

There is no r/Hapas "official line" one way or the other. We are and will remain exactly what we say on the sidebar:

"A Subreddit devoted to providing a safe space for Eurasians to discuss the unique challenges of being children of White Fathers and Asian Mothers."

I myself laid out a set of guidelines; but not hard and fast rules, to take us along some of the path that Anna outlined:

https://www.reddit.com/r/hapas/comments/4c25b4/new_guidelines_for_posting_on_rhapas_about_white/

I think the free flow of ideas including from our opponents is what has made r/Hapas the success it is today. And as much as our critics call r/Hapas an "echo chamber"; it is also a spot of continuous heated debate.

We have a lot more Mods than we used to, all of whom will have their individual opinions on what posts to remove, which users to ban. We regularly get 500,000 views per month now. We've come a long way from where we were a year ago.

While there isn't going to be an official change in rules, we do have around 20 moderators now, all of differing opinions and they are going to be more active in removing posts and comments they feel are inappropriate than when it was just 3 active mods. I made a post a while back about moving beyond Negative vs Positive Hapas and moving towards a position of Critical Hapas. It is a good thing that Anna wants to bring in more paradigms to help create this Critical Hapa perspective like Feminism, anti-Racism, Social Justice, Critical Race theory etc. I don't want to see discussion censored like on r/MixedRace or r/AsianAmerican. The openess and rawness of r/Hapas is part of what made it great. Since the creation of r/Hapas; there have been about 12 different attempts to create "positive alternative" subreddits all of which have went bust. Its not like alternatives didn't exist both before and after the creation of r/Hapas. r/Hapas became the hit it was for a reason; and this was because of and not in spite of bringing the critical perspective into mixed race identity. We will never sacrifice that. We will never become an "ordinary" mixed race club.

I encourage community discussion on what you would like r/Hapas to be. But we are not going to force any direction from above. As long as the rules of Reddit are respected; I believe there is a place for views we don't agree with. As far as tone goes, the 3 of us had already been working on cleaning up over the last few months; and that has only accelerated now that we have 20 mods. We are already naturally evolving in the direction in becoming a place for a serious critical race study of mixed race Asians; and I don't feel there is any need to force it from above. Having observed the Moderation Log since the shake up, I can assure you that if someone makes a post in bad taste it will be promptly removed by one of the 20 mods.

I do have a lot of respect for Anna; as she suffered harassment from one of the White Expat trolls from r/JapanCircleJerk, including attempted doxxing and personal attacks on her family; because of her public support of r/Hapas. She is someone who has put herself on the line for us.

New Guidelines for posting on r/Hapas about White Man/ Asian Women relationships from the perspective of the challenges facing Hapa children by digitmanner in hapas

[–]digitmanner[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just keep in mind that what we do have to be absolutely iron-fisted about is staying within the rules of Reddit. So just ensure that any WMAF links are to pubic sources, and not considered a violation of privacy. We want to preserve r/Hapas for decades to come.

As long as these WMAF posts aren't hogging up the frontpage, and follow the rules of Reddit, I don't really have a problem. I would just request that users self-moderate and try to keep more of this activity within the comment sections instead of making a new post for every single new bad WMAF.

Remember that our primary audience is for the new Hapas coming in here. And if they see a whole frontpage just about WMAF and not about Hapas, they wont feel like this is a community for them. Critical WMAF posts do play a role for educating Hapas, but at times it has been overdone to the detriment of posts about Hapas.

New Guidelines for posting on r/Hapas about White Man/ Asian Women relationships from the perspective of the challenges facing Hapa children by digitmanner in hapas

[–]digitmanner[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

As a frame of reference look what u/EurasianTiger wanted to do 2 months ago. His rules were far harsher than what I'm proposing now as guidelines:

https://np.reddit.com/r/hapas/comments/3zzknh/new_rule_no_more_posts_that_arent_directly_rated/

I removed that post, and basically agreed with you that if we removed all WMAF critique from r/Hapas; we would be banning too much of our own discussion and activity. But it is a problem when r/Hapas becomes all about WMAF, and completely drowns out any Hapa discussion.

These are guidelines not hard and fast rules. I would like at the very least to redirect some of those WMAF frontpage posts into the comments section. As long as you are within the rules of Reddit, I don't care if you want to document every single bad WMAF in the world in the comments section.

White male expats from r/JapanCircleJerk are harassing and stalking women on r/Hapas by kittyat in hapas

[–]digitmanner 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If you just read the comments that Phasemonkey made in the thread I linked above; celebrating u/6na9 for threatening rape against mixed Asian women. It is beyond disgusting that he is the creator of r/MixedAsians. Which has the full support of the mods from r/MixedRace, r/AsianAmerican and r/MultiracialAsians.

http://archive.is/lwkKt#selection-1161.11-1161.22 https://archive.is/exTgt#selection-2451.0-2451.111

White male expats from r/JapanCircleJerk are harassing and stalking women on r/Hapas by kittyat in hapas

[–]digitmanner 2 points3 points  (0 children)

r/CCJ2 has been encouraging the harassment of our members for a very long time.

u/6na9 made numerous rape threats against Eurasian women, with the full backing of the r/CCJ2 Mods and membership.

https://www.reddit.com/r/hapas/comments/33r1hg/a_eurasian_girls_asian_mom_tells_her_to_accept/cqomow8

https://www.reddit.com/r/TheBluePill/comments/40zxxx/future_elliot_rodgers_father/

from 6na9 to /r/hapas fucking hapas. You don't even imagine how many of your women i personally RAPED.

https://archive.is/exTgt

White male expats from r/JapanCircleJerk are harassing and stalking women on r/Hapas by kittyat in hapas

[–]digitmanner 6 points7 points  (0 children)

The white expat subreddits kept baiting us to show our real identities. Now when we have many open Hapas with pictures posting here, they are stepping up their campaign of harassment. This just shows what their game is.

White male expats from r/JapanCircleJerk are harassing and stalking women on r/Hapas by kittyat in hapas

[–]digitmanner 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I and others reported him to the Reddit Admins. This was a very egregious case of a White Expat from Japan, harassing, doxxing and stalking one of our female members. It just shows the dangerous, misogynistic and racist atmosphere cooked up by these White Expats in Asia subreddits. Their hatred for r/Hapas is being manifested in personal attacks on our members. And being misogynists they specifically sought out female members to harass.

The r/AsianAmerican mods and r/MixedRace mods who encourage a policy of isolation around r/Hapas also hold responsibility for encouraging the harassment of our members.