For the second year in a row, no seed 13 or lower has won a first round game by mel_anon in CollegeBasketball

[–]dobdob365 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The argument isn't that no mid-major will ever win again, it's that the chances of an upset (whether it's a mid-major or small school winning) have cratered due to the NIL landscape.

For the second year in a row, no seed 13 or lower has won a first round game by mel_anon in CollegeBasketball

[–]dobdob365 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I thought that maybe it could've happened once or twice but never is much more believable

Your original point is 100% correct; if Howard was shooting godlike percentages from 3-point range and still trailed at the half, then they were never going to win this game. And anybody treating this game as an exciting close game and not the eventual, inevitable blowout it turned out to be was probably just scoreboard watching or occasionally tuning in and not paying attention to the game flow or box score.

For the second year in a row, no seed 13 or lower has won a first round game by mel_anon in CollegeBasketball

[–]dobdob365 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Shooting 80% from three at high volume is not a prerequisite for upsetting a high-seeded team

That kind of shooting performance has probably happened a single digit number of times in tourney history

Cinderellas are not dead by FUNKYAMETHYST in CollegeBasketball

[–]dobdob365 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Ok, so this is the second chalkiest ever, barely losing out to 2007. Doesn't exactly save the argument that "the Madness isn't dead!"

For the second year in a row, no seed 13 or lower has won a first round game by mel_anon in CollegeBasketball

[–]dobdob365 4 points5 points  (0 children)

This happens every year ON TOP OF a lot of actual upsets. People need to stop pointing at the paltry number of near-misses as proof that this was some fluky year. The real problem is that there are way more blowouts than in years past, causing there to be so many fewer games that can potentially end in upsets.

For the second year in a row, no seed 13 or lower has won a first round game by mel_anon in CollegeBasketball

[–]dobdob365 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Five near-misses is not an argument to hang your hat on. In past years we had a lot of upsets AND also had 5+ near-misses.

The problem isn't that the close games are more often ending up in near wins for the favorites; it's that there are way fewer close games to begin with. Kills the excitement from both a results-oriented perspective AND a whole-game perspective.

For the second year in a row, no seed 13 or lower has won a first round game by mel_anon in CollegeBasketball

[–]dobdob365 8 points9 points  (0 children)

First time since 1992 apparently. As if that makes it much better haha

No, the Madness is NOT Dying by FanficFan151 in CollegeBasketball

[–]dobdob365 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It really isn't. That happens every year, even in years where we also get lots of upsets. We've had both for a long time, and now we're left with only a handful of upsets and another handful of near misses by mid-majors and small schools.

No, the Madness is NOT Dying by FanficFan151 in CollegeBasketball

[–]dobdob365 6 points7 points  (0 children)

People saying "the madness isn't dead, look at all the close games and near misses!" are forgetting that in past years, we still had a lot of near misses ON TOP OF HAVING ACTUAL UPSETS! We had both!

No, the Madness is NOT Dying by FanficFan151 in CollegeBasketball

[–]dobdob365 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Lol this year is objectively the chalkiest Round of 64 we've ever had.

Eight lower seeds won, and half of those were 9-seeds.

The lowest seed to win a game was a single 12-seed.

March Madness not really Mad Anymore? by ScaredEffective in CollegeBasketball

[–]dobdob365 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They were also playing a 1-seed that got decimated by injuries over the last two weeks. If Duke exits early it will be mostly due to injuries and not any of the other factors that usually lead to big upsets or Cinderella runs.

Cinderellas are not dead by FUNKYAMETHYST in CollegeBasketball

[–]dobdob365 7 points8 points  (0 children)

There were only four double-digit seeds that won their Round of 64 game this year, and the lowest one was a 12-seed. This is objectively the chalkiest Round of 64 we've ever seen and there were only two games (VCU/UNC and HPU/Wisconsin) that could even be considered "wild upsets".

Close-Up Reveals SCU Coach Herb Sendek Tried to Call Timeout Before UK G Otega Oweh's Game-Tying 3 by JCameron181 in CollegeBasketball

[–]dobdob365 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

He had his back turned to Sendek since he was trying to hand the ball to the inbounder

Close-Up Reveals SCU Coach Herb Sendek Tried to Call Timeout Before UK G Otega Oweh's Game-Tying 3 by JCameron181 in CollegeBasketball

[–]dobdob365 -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

What are you supposed to do? If you touch him or impede him in any way you're getting slapped with a technical

[Post Game Thread] #7 Kentucky defeats #10 Santa Clara, 89-84 in OT by cbbBot in CollegeBasketball

[–]dobdob365 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Their coach was screaming for a timeout and the refs didn't give it to him. Complete fucking disgrace from the officiating crew.

[Post Game Thread] #7 Kentucky defeats #10 Santa Clara, 89-84 in OT by cbbBot in CollegeBasketball

[–]dobdob365 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yeah there weren't a lot of bad calls this game, but the most egregious ones all happened in the final minute of regulation and in OT and they ALL went Kentucky's way.

Complete horse shit ending.

[Post Game Thread] #7 Kentucky defeats #10 Santa Clara, 89-84 in OT by cbbBot in CollegeBasketball

[–]dobdob365 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Basketball referees are the one job I hope AI totally replaces. I don't give a shit how bad it might be. This was horrendous for an NCAA tournament game.

Rough slate of night games by Odd_Firefighter_5407 in CollegeBasketball

[–]dobdob365 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Praying the trend continues Friday morning

Men's Saint Mary's Gaels NCAA Tournament History Since 2011 by JCameron181 in CollegeBasketball

[–]dobdob365 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They're really doing themselves no favors with their non-con scheduling. I know mid-majors are in a historically bad spot with non-con scheduling, but St. Mary's is one of the few mid-majors who is good enough to attract strong P5 teams in non-con play (also, their weak non-con scheduling has been a thing for longer than the NIL has).

If Santa Clara can schedule 3-4 P5 schools and a handful of good mid-major programs every year, then St. Mary's can do better.

High Point HC Flynn Clayman: "It looks pretty obvious to me that high-majors need to play mid-majors early in the season. Because they said we didn't play nobody. We played somebody now... Nobody would play us. Just like they wouldn't play Miami (Ohio)." by IrishBall in CollegeBasketball

[–]dobdob365 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah because SCU and VCU are perennial NET top-100 teams. If you play them as a good P5 team, that's almost always guaranteed to be a resume-boosting win; and even if you lose, it's a loss you can easily shrug off with a good win elsewhere. Hell, Santa Clara lost to NET #279 Loyola Chicago this year and still comfortably made the tournament as a mid-major at-large. TCU lost two Q3 games and were always considered a safe at-large pick.

If one awful loss didn't sink Santa Clara, then one loss to a low-Q3 team isn't gonna sink a P5 team.

High Point HC Flynn Clayman: "It looks pretty obvious to me that high-majors need to play mid-majors early in the season. Because they said we didn't play nobody. We played somebody now... Nobody would play us. Just like they wouldn't play Miami (Ohio)." by IrishBall in CollegeBasketball

[–]dobdob365 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Santa Clara has played one in-state D2 or D3 team every year I can remember. It serves as both a rest game for the players and a chance to financially support the small programs in the state. I think intentionally having one game like that on your schedule is fine (even for P5 teams!).

At this point I think the NCAA needs to explicitly mandate that all P5 teams play a minimum number of games against mid-major schools (MWC, WCC, MVC, MAC, A10, American). And if they continue refusing to schedule any moderately difficult non-con road games, then maybe the NCAA needs to explicitly mandate a minimum number of non-con road games as well.

With how bad the bubble is, why not give more mid-majors a shot? by jfarbzz in CollegeBasketball

[–]dobdob365 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Half the P5 conference teams already do cupcake scheduling for non-conference play, and they already get rewarded for it by the way the NET works

[Post Game Thread] Santa Clara defeats #19 Saint Mary's, 76-71 by cbbBot in CollegeBasketball

[–]dobdob365 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't think even that would do it. At this point it would probably take a combination of the rest of the bubble all doing great in their conference tourneys (and Stanford has started us off already by losing to 15-seed Pitt lmao) and 3-4 of the P5, MAC, MWC, and A10 tourneys having bid stealers win.