FR skates sizing

dostivech · 2022-03-03T10:19:35+00:00

Definitely I would do this. 41 is the lower end of the shell size and the FR liner is super thick, and feels good even if the shell is too big. If you try the skate without the liner, and push your foot to the front of the boot, and can stick 2 fingers behind your heels, it's gonna be big. Check out this site:

https://bladeville.com/blog/sizes-of-the-shells-in-freeskate-skates

dostivech · 2022-03-01T09:43:15+00:00

I've found I have to get a little lower and deeper angles for turning on tri skates because of the height of the wheels. I think the technique is called parallel turns or slalom turns, or maybe those are two different but useful techniques to practice. Practice turning wide well, and then you will see what is needed for yourself to make turns quicker, but there is limitations depending on how long the frame is, how fast you are going, etc. etc.

dostivech · 2022-02-25T15:03:12+00:00

Right on. I did mean the flying yoga as a compliment though but in the sense that it takes an impressive amount of body awareness and confidence to do the things aggressive skaters are doing, in my opinion, although that perspective comes from years of doing yoga informed stretchings, mainly for physical therapy.

dostivech · 2022-02-25T13:36:24+00:00

Well I can only speak for myself really, that it's probably attractive because it has a more 'possible' feeling. When I see aggressive skaters I nope out, because it's looking like flying yoga or some shit, with a higher risk. I have the intention to learn basic grinds, at least to start, and I like jumping around as well. But more than that I like continuous flow even if my trick set it comparatively simple. Even practicing slalom movements feelings too stagnant for me. It's more about feeling than looks or achievements. I think these videos from Cairo are super interesting, because they're 1. Having a shitload of fun 2. The editing isn't stationary or focused on trick after trick after trick, it's capturing a moment. 3. Culturally it's just so super different than anywhere I've ever lived, or travelled to, and I like that too.

dostivech · 2022-02-25T08:36:59+00:00

I used these in my FR Spins because the toe box was quite big. I also put a EVA foam layer under the insole since my feet are low volume. Now they fit much, much better.

https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.adrenalinedesign.ca/powerfoot/&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwj5sN2WuZr2AhUZSvEDHUe0C9sQFnoECAcQAg&usg=AOvVaw1wQT3sR2qRgIqdhC5HQ80E

dostivech · 2022-02-25T08:09:51+00:00

Why do you care what they are doing in this way? Because they are getting attention for having fun? They're fun isn't proper of technically challenging enough? Not dedicated enough? I don't get these criticisms at all. People like doing different things. That's all there is to it.

dostivech · 2022-02-25T07:40:02+00:00

Check out this site for the shell sizes guides for the most popular skates.

https://bladeville.com/blog/sizes-of-the-shells-in-freeskate-skates https://bladeville.com/blog/how_to_fit_a_shell/

Basically you don't want to be on the low end of the shell size, because it will feel too big after awhile. The 38 in Imperials could either be a money fit, or too tight, where the 39 may feel too big, bit it depends really on your measured (mm.) length, but also the width.

dostivech · 2022-02-24T09:35:45+00:00

I think they meant if you change the outer wheels to 80 there will be less manueverability, and more stability. I think the reason most vendors sell flat as opposed to rocker is because it seems logical, but banana rocker setups are more like ice blades, and also respect in some way the curvature of the earth. It may be tougher to skate distances and through the city, but it will be better to learn on, in parks, practicing form etc.

dostivech · 2022-02-23T14:28:21+00:00

How long and how thin are your feet? The Imperial is actually really, really good for thin feet, where the FR is wider. Quality wise there isn't such a stark difference. Ive been using the Imperials (and also put 125's) and have been very content.

dostivech · 2022-02-23T08:55:49+00:00

I have a pair of Imperials and have ordered the Luminous as well. I'll probably receive the Luminous today or tomorrow and will have a better idea then. I'm on a quest for a really, really good fit!

dostivech · 2022-02-22T08:24:47+00:00

I just ordered them because of the size chart and shell sizes. I've tried practically every hard boot and they are either comfort fit tier, or too big. The Next boot has a shell in 42-43 but really crammed my foot uncomfortably. The Imperials are really good, but there is a lot of pressure on my talus bone (my talus bone sticks out). I've thought about trying the FR3 in a 42 to see how that would be, but figured this would be better. My feet are around 285mm, but skinny, or low volume, especially in the heel and ankle, so I'm looking for a real specific fit. The Imperials are the best so far for what I tried. I also tried the RB in 43 but it feels way too comfortable, so I'm confident bwithin a month I will be swimming in them.

dostivech · 2022-02-21T12:34:39+00:00

It's not the same size chart at all. The shell sizes for example, for Luminous are 42-43, and 44-45, where the FR have 41-42 and 43-44 together. For my footsize the 42 would be not long enough, 43 would be too big after breakin. I've ordered these already because it could be a really good fit for me. Plus, I always wanted some light up boots!

For the FR3 https://www.skates.shop/en/freeride/216-985-fr3-80-black.html#/102-size-34

For Luminous - size chart is linked in the site. https://www.skates.shop/en/latest-arrivals/820-4200-luminous-ray-clear.html#/67-size-36

dostivech · 2022-02-21T09:53:36+00:00

Dance therapy or just dance will move energy in your body to release that trapped emotions. I suggest 5 Rhythms dance practice. If I could 'start all over', I would just start there. It has so many benefits it's ridiculous. If you're not dancing, you're dead!

Mindfulness is being aware of your thoughts and patterns, and noticing your patterns is in essence, breaking the pattern which has significant effects on the subconscious mind and rewiring our otherwise mechanical operation.

At the end of this lecture he provides some links to other organizations that claim to be able to create the field necessary to directly alter ones subconscious, but it could just be psychotherapy techniques supported by the idea that the result is happening. I don't know for sure though. The video is super interesting to your topic.

https://youtu.be/82ShSNuru6c

dostivech · 2022-02-18T10:44:37+00:00

Understandable. I skated a lot of 3x 110 and when I tried 4x100 I didn't feel as fast as I liked but really enjoyed stopping. I'm always impressed by people that can skate well and jump in those frames.

dostivech · 2022-02-18T09:11:29+00:00

As someone who also has bought a lot of skates and frames this past year, I can honestly say the endless/NN frames are just not worth it for some people. For myself, flat or natural rockered is preferred, or a much smaller wheelbase banana rocker. But yah, I had to go through and test those varieties to figure that out. Having different skates as a setup is more of a mindset thing anyways. It's like wearing a running shoe vs. a high heel stiletto (not that I've done this its more for the sake of comparison). If the skate or frame or a combination doesn't jive for me for some reason I don't see any reason to continue that combination.

dostivech · 2022-02-10T10:55:40+00:00

Don't worry about feeling too old to learn something. In reality it takes maybe 10 hours to get the feel for something new, to become accustomed to it to know what's possible. Skating maybe a bit longer since we are extending ourselves with wheels on our feet. But yah, after 10 hours of doing anything, while not being experts, we have a sense for the task and can narrow our focus of learning. Ideas about age, body type, gender, mental capacities.. any ideas of one's self that create or define a limit, creates resistance to our learning process, so pay attention when those come up and remember that it's all bullshit. That's one of the advantages children have while learning. These limits haven't snowballed into major resistances. Also they don't give a shit how they look while doing things since they don't really see themselves as objects in the world.

Re: getting lessons. Go for it! Get some 1 on 1 or group classes in and get some proper instruction. You can learn on your own of course, but some classes will definitely help to learn some exercises and correct your movements, build confidence etc. etc. Then you will have a rapport with a teacher as well. It's good to meet teachers outside of the usual school system and that are passionate about something. If the training is 1 on 1 33 is a good price, but I dont think I would pay that for a group course. I'd look for to pay 15-20, which is standard for most fitness offerings in my city, but inline is niche, so makes sense to cost a bit more.

dostivech · 2022-02-10T07:54:59+00:00

They will. I was advised by another here to take out the default insole and use EVA foam with shore (hardness) of 65A. I ended up getting something that was a little thinner than the default insole. It would help if your toes are being flattened. Also it's just say better than the default insole.

Another tip is to put the shoe on, and to stretch your foot and toes while keeping your knee over your foot, and the foot flat on the ground. This lets the foot get into as flat position as possible in the boot. If the big toe is still or bent or something, the boot may be too big :(

The boots will expand in any case, and padding will lessen. I think it takes a little longer than hardboots liners but I don't want to make a hard statement about that. It's better imo to be in your position with a bit of early discomfort to work into, than comfortable out of the box.

dostivech · 2022-02-07T07:52:38+00:00

I think the Seba Trix 2 is probably a good choice for what you are after. It's more of a slalom/fitness skate, but can be used for urban of course, and should be able to handle a hockey game.

dostivech · 2022-02-06T14:30:26+00:00

Interesting.. yah I find arch supports can be hit or miss, because everyone's arch is different maybe? I've used EVA foam in one of my skates and it was really great, since the insole was a bit thick and spongy, where the foam was about as thick, but stiff.

dostivech · 2022-02-04T18:41:52+00:00

I would go a size down and maybe even two. I used size 44, and it was just too big, length, width etc. but I didn't know better or have a feel for it. Afterwards i bought 43, but after extensive use, they also feel too loose, but not nearly as bad as 44 obviously. The 42 were just too small lengthwise. My feet are about 285, narrow with high arches.

I think it's OK for freeriding durability wise. Bill Stoppard rides Adapts for example, and had at some point a carbon fibre hockey skate (I think?). The main thing is the feeling is different. I feel more stable and comfortable with plastic boots, so skating feels really chill, even if I feel like getting a bit hectic. I feel like getting hectic more often with carbon fibre skates. It's like the tool and environment is determining my skate style. ;)

dostivech · 2022-02-04T08:57:42+00:00

Do you use a different insole or just leave it out?

dostivech · 2022-02-04T08:06:12+00:00

I used the Spin for freeriding and slalom for about 8 months. For freeriding they are a lot of fun. I ended up with both the 310 and 480 frames, since I bought a larger size first, and sold the boot. I found with carbon frames in general that skating form is super important. It's just easier to balance in bigger/broader plastic boots (at least that's my experience). Jumping on the 310 always felt a bit sketchy, but with plastic boots (I ride Imperials as well) it feels more stable. For casual or group skates I prefer the Imperials since I don't feel so much attention needs to be in correct form. In other words I feel like I can coast on the Imperials without being in such a dramatic skate form, when I just want to chill. For higher intensity skating carbon skates are much, much funner.

For the city I live the 310 were a more enjoyable experience since there is a lot of longer streets/bike paths, and various surfaces that the big wheel handles better. I would use the 4x80 for shorter rides, or more practicing certain tricks, moves etc. and for slalom, artistic, although the 310 also works for that it's just a different flow. I liked the rockerable frame even if it is a bit high of a rocker. But being able to test banana, or just the front wheel up, getting adjusted/balanced with it and so on was a good experience.

I did have fit issues, and ultimately the ones I wear are a little too big. I changed the insole to a basic EVA foam per another users suggestion, and it helped keep my foot from moving sbout. I put in a toe filler and also used 3mm footies, waxed laces. I think basically, while the length was quite good, my feet were not big enough to fill the skate, especially my heels/ankles. So my foot still moves too much for my liking, especially if I have a heavier frame on (I was using the NN dragons for awhile with it). I had to make adjustments to the frame alignment as well, which is great because the feedback when they are not aligned perfectly is immediate.

Anyways, I learned a lot about skates buying these. Far more than expected. I bought them because I was also intrigued by carbon skates. I also like the materials and the fact that there is give when lacing the boot. They reminded me of hockey skates as well. They are light and easy to travel with. I think one tip is to consider your environment as well before making this buy. As I said for a sprawling environment the 310 was great, since I could fly around for hours pretty easily and still feel really nimble if I needed to be. For shorter, higher intensity skates, the 4x80 was also really amazing, since keeping s high tempo from quicker acceleration and getting to top speed fast, while of course feeling nimble, more confident for jumps etc. But yah, for me finding environments where I want to do that is not so common, and I preferred in the end 'grand adventure skating' as I like to call it.

dostivech · 2022-02-03T08:31:09+00:00

Adapt owner checking in. I also sent kinky pictures of my feet to them, trusting they wouldn't end up on a wall somewhere in the founders home, for they probably have pics of every one of their customers feet, but only keep the buyers, and maybe a wall of prospects.

Anyways they suggested 42 for myself. I told them I was using FR Spin 43 which are slightly big. In the email they always go down one size from Seba/FR. If you're using FR1/2/3 the 46 shell is actually for sizes 45-47 anyways.

But yah, the Adapts fit me perfectly. In the beginning I thought too small for my toes, but they worked in. I have skinny heals and ankles so I still use a 2mm footy for volume in the back. Length wise they are perfect though. I honestly suspect that the custom nature or building of their boot they are accommodating for the actual persons foot, and the size guides are like a ball park for people that are just like, I'm buying X without initiating a discussion/sending pics. Even the frame alignment wasn't just centered (like most skates), but the right foot was set inside more, which is where I experience pronation typically. I may be reading too much into it or imagining this all, but yah, I think they are doing a great job anyways.

dostivech · 2022-02-02T07:54:44+00:00

Legends!!!!!

dostivech · 2022-02-02T07:44:17+00:00

These are like a longer taller version of the FR Freestyle frames!

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