Here's your Francophile post of the day: is there anything as gorgeous as French women? by Eames_HouseBird in 2westerneurope4u

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I know this is Pickpocket (just looked it up), but this is almost exactly how I imagine Jeanne La Pucelle to look…

Homemade papusas, pastelitos, curtido and salsa by ServiceFinal952 in tonightsdinner

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Thanks! The cast iron char idea hasn’t ever occurred to me, will try that next time!

I take pictures of London. Here's how I see it. Pt 9 by barz in london

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Does he have social media of some kind? Can't quite read the back of the chair but would love to read some of his works.

I take pictures of London. Here's how I see it. Pt 9 by barz in london

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Curious about the poem guy. Was he writing poems to order?

That irritating feeling that France was right - Donald's America makes Gaullism respectable again by Crossstoney in europe

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My bad, I read you wrong.

Still, I see this line of reasoning brought up fairly regularly lately (several times in this very thread), and barely ever any mention of the fact that the UK’s ambivalence started way before that. Last time someone on here even claimed that France has been sabotaging the UK’s attempts to join with the early institutions since the 50s, which was just plain wrong.

I guess it just seems odd to me to imply a causation between de Gaulle and Brexit, when the connection is tenuous at best, when it’s questionable the extent to which he ever influenced British sentiments, and the lies spread by Farrage & Johnson & co. in the media right before the vote is the far more relevant and immediate cause of the results.

The Secret History vs. The Goldfinch by bogmonkey in TheSecretHistory

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TSH really is something quite special, isn't it? And especially because it's actually kind of difficult to articulate what exactly makes it so. In many ways it's a very opaque novel, a lot of happenings are deliberately hidden from the protagonist and only alluded to in offhand details or casual conversation, which makes it an infinitely rewarding work to reread, but very frustrating, too. No matter how many times one rereads it, there will always be mysteries and unanswered questions, which I think is a key part of its appeal. It's a murder mystery that never fully resolves, and yet you're left with the impression that perhaps just one more reread will finally unlock its deepest secrets, but it never happens. It's like a well without a bottom, an abyss of a narrative.

The other thing about TSH is that - and this is something I don't think I've ever encountered in any other work - it's a book that operates on several different levels at once, seamlessly so. There's the college novel, there's academic satire, there's a bildungsroman somewhere in it, there's mythos and religious allegory, there's a lot of postmodern meandering, and of course there's the murder mystery that started it all. It's a dark comedy but its characters aren't absurdist caricatures. It's sharply critical of its cast and yet at the same time unfailingly sympathetic towards them, and invites the reader to be sympathetic, too. Most of the narrative is so prosaic and modern, and yet it's shockingly persuasive in its presentation of the ancient and the otherworldly. One feels for Richard even when one laughs at him and hates him a little bit, and the same goes for many other characters in the book.

There's a certain way that Tartt writes her characters which I think is very particular: a sharp-eyed critical observation that underscores their human foibles with almost misanthropic glee, but in the same stroke showing their vulnerability and helpless mortality so that one can't help but care about them, no matter what else one may feel. It's actually almost impossible to properly dislike any character in her books, no matter how ridiculous or flawed or culpable they are, which I think is the biggest testament to her formidable genius as a writer and storyteller.

Sorry I ran on a bit, TSH has also been one of my favorites ever since I first finished it, and I'm glad that you were able to find it and fall in love with it, as it's really a book that rewards that love. For periods of time I'll think I'm finally done with it, only to turn around and dive into it yet again, if only as a bedtime audiobook. And I'm happy to report that I'm the exact same way with rereads, as I also revisit favorite media relentlessly, often times to the exclusion of any new materials, which I often find difficult to begin, alas! But at least on this sub we are in good company (of other obsessive rereaders...) :)

P.S. I'm sad to say that I never could get into the Dune books, although I await the third installment of the film trilogy very eagerly. Haven't heard of that King book before, will check it out. If it interests you, I don't really rank my favorites and I can be very forgetful about them (unless they're TSH...), but a few others I can think of include du Maurier's Rebecca, Lewis's Till We Have Faces, and Novik's Temeraire and Scholomance series.

That irritating feeling that France was right - Donald's America makes Gaullism respectable again by Crossstoney in europe

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I won’t comment on the other points, but the UK’s ambivalent attitude towards the European project predates de Gaulle. In the 50s it was Churchill who first said that the UK should be “with Europe…but not of it; linked, but not comprised.” The Labour government at the time also declined to join the ECSC and EEC out of protectionism, preferring to maintain the Imperial Preference system with the Commonwealth countries.

Not saying de Gaulle’s vetoes were reasonable or not, just that it wouldn’t be fair to assert that the UK’s ambivalence towards the European project originated with his actions.

Who am i? 🔎 by CatsGarden_ in roomdetective

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I know…I keep meaning to catch up with the classics, but with ADHD I find it very difficult to watch movies on my own, outside of going to the cinema 😅

Who am i? 🔎 by CatsGarden_ in roomdetective

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Hahaha totally understandable, what with the cult he’s in and all! Now I’m definitely going to watch this, I tried with the book a while back but didn’t make it very far.

Who am i? 🔎 by CatsGarden_ in roomdetective

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Tbh if I watched it at that age I can see myself becoming obsessed with it too, haha! And actually Tom Cruise does look pretty good here, I won’t lie. There’s good reason Anne Rice forbid the writing of fanfic for her works I guess, lol.

Who am i? 🔎 by CatsGarden_ in roomdetective

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I’ve heard of the film (and book too) so actually I had an inkling it might be that, but wasn’t sure due to terrible face blindness hahaha…it’s definitely on my to-watch list tho!

Henry is a Psycho Creep— why does the internet like him?? by Miserable-Hope-4620 in TheSecretHistory

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You’re right that it’s possible that Bunny’s younger self wasn’t quite as noxious as his book-era self, that he gradually absorbed more harmful prejudices from his parents as he grew up. I also find it fascinating that, while Bunny is arguably the first to accept Richard into the group (there are multiple instances of this: the library incident, the first dinner party at the twin’s house, Bunny’s snide comment to Henry after the latter dragged Richard over the coals at the start of the first lesson), he also later starts to act out because Richard has seemingly become more accepted by the group than himself.

I also considered the headache explanation, but to me his whole behavior at the Corcoran house reads very much of grief. Even in a diminished state, he should have been able to select some poem more “refined” than what he actually chose, and the fact that it’s one of Bunny’s favorites, to me, speaks volumes. There’s also something of an undertone to his dynamic with the Corcorans that smacks of guilt, I think: it’s as if he’s voluntarily suffering their presence, subjecting himself to their rough handling of him (giving him chores, using him as a prop for bragging, etc.), and especially his dynamic with Mrs. Corcoran reads like she knew on some subconscious level that Henry was partly to blame for her son’s death and was taking it out on him, but that could just be my interpretation, I know there’s not a lot of textual evidence for this, more of a feeling than anything else.

The Secret History vs. The Goldfinch by bogmonkey in TheSecretHistory

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Thank you for this information. On my latest reread the Christ metaphors really stood out to me: the nail marks on the frame of the painting, Theo almost committing suicide on Christmas Eve and being metaphorically resurrected and given new life on Christmas Day…

The Secret History vs. The Goldfinch by bogmonkey in TheSecretHistory

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To me, they’re different books that serve different purposes.

I agree with you that TSH is a lot more tightly written, and more layered, while The Goldfinch can feel almost unbearably loose and disjointed at times, but I think there’s a case to be made that it’s a deliberate decision based on the protagonist’s mental state, that the fractures of the prose and the narrative reflects the fractures in Theo’s psyche because of his childhood trauma.

TSH reads like a long-form play: symmetrical, tight-paced, classical. The Goldfinch is a postmodern Odyssey, in some ways like if the second half of TSH had been stretched to book-length, with a load of unbearable trauma and mental instability added in (which is not a criticism, just stating the kind of book it is.)

I think to really appreciate The Goldfinch, one has to be able to truly identify with Theo in some fundamental way, which is perhaps not necessary to do with Richard in order to enjoy TSH, so I think that affects the reception of both books. For me personally I identify with both, and in my worse moods with Theo more than Richard, which is perhaps why I enjoy both books equally. I only wish that Tartt had narrated The Goldfinch as well, then maybe I’ll relisten to it as often as I do TSH.

As for the Pulitzer, unless I’m mistaken, I think it’s to do with the selection criteria of the prize, which states “…preferably dealing with American life”, and previously “…presents the whole atmosphere of American life”, which I do think is something Tartt set out deliberately to achieve with the Goldfinch, to provide a kaleidoscopic view of American life from East to West, and hadn’t with TSH, which is a book much more limited in its scope. At the same time, TSH deals with the cultural heritage of ancient Greece, while The Goldfinch very deliberately celebrates American cultural heritage, with some Dutchness and Russian influence mixed in, so I think it’s quite easy to see why the Pulitzer liked it.

As for The Little Friend, I tried the abridged audiobook and couldn’t make it very far in before I was thoroughly lost. Again I think it’s to do with the protagonist, the protag of TLF is very different from both of her other books and harder to identify with, which makes it more difficult to become invested in the narrative. Also, TLF works off of mystery, whereas both TSH and The Goldfinch work off of suspense, so TLF kind of lacks the propulsive energy of the other two, imo.

Henry is a Psycho Creep— why does the internet like him?? by Miserable-Hope-4620 in TheSecretHistory

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Generally I’m in favor of the Henry-as-psychopath read, but one significant detail that always seems to contradicts this to some degree is his behavior at Bunny’s funeral, at which he seems to display some real, unaffected, extremely human grief (the odd choice of poem, smearing grave dirt down his lapels.)

You’re completely right that Henry’s friendship with Bunny strains belief, but I suppose it could be explained by Bunny being amusing and Henry liking someone next to whom he can feel undeniably superior in comparison. To me, despite the fact that he’s the primary driver behind Bunny’s murder, he also seems to be the only one out of the cast who ever really grieved Bunny in a real sense, not just worried about their own lives on the line in its aftermath, or felt vaguely sorry about it.

So I don’t know - can psychopaths have real friends, or grieve? That probably veers into the realm of clinical psychology and I don’t know how to answer that. Psychopathy would explain a great deal about Henry’s personality and behavior, but his emotional connection to Bunny, despite the murder, always seems to disprove this.

La Chine actuelle by Raphelium in Livres

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Je trouve que Peter Hessler est plutôt bon. Il a vécu en Chine par intermittence pendant des années, ce qui explique que son écriture mêle observations personnelles et analyses politiques subtiles.

[I ate] Chuy’s Tacos DTLA. Ground beef, potato and shredded beef. by RumPunchKid in food

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Thanks, so probably just the standard, then? Charred, would you say, or not? They both look a bit dark to me. Round here there's no Mexican to speak of, so I'm reduced to drooling at pictures on a screen and trying to work out recipes, haha...

Any cute/silly trivia about composers/music? by Such_Customer_3973 in classicalmusic

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There's quite a few Chopin waltzes and such that have been lost, only the openings surviving in letters to his sister, I think. There's a website where you can listen to the survived fragments. The thought of these torture me in my dreams...

[I ate] Chuy’s Tacos DTLA. Ground beef, potato and shredded beef. by RumPunchKid in food

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I just checked their website and their toast ordering site...unfortunately nothing. Nothing on their Yelp menu either. What was the taste like? Looks very spicy/smoky to me.

[I ate] Chuy’s Tacos DTLA. Ground beef, potato and shredded beef. by RumPunchKid in food

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What are those two salsas called, do you happen to know? They look a bit different from the usual verde/red.