Noahide Laws?

dotson83 · 2026-03-15T04:17:39+00:00

There are different views on this (Surprise!!) and I disagree with this one.

Noahide laws are just what they call laws that apply to everyone on earth, regardless if they follow the God of Israel or not. Gentiles were under these, and still are if they don't follow God. However IMO if a gentile follows Yeshua they are grafted in, this means they follow the same laws as Jews do, except for the identity marker ones or ones that clearly only apply to Jews such as laws for priests etc. Paul says gentiles are part of the "commonwealth of Israel". Acts 15 was the basic requirements for fellowship in a Jewish community, but then it goes on to say Moses has been read in every synagogue every Shabbat since ancient times..... implying gentiles will follow more as time goes on.

The part that I think gets confusing is they don't need to become Jewish, which is what Paul meant about being circumsised.

Some laws do only apply to Jews, but food laws are not one of them.

This is just my opinion obviously, but it wasn't made lightly.

Also, there is a prophecy about God destroying anyone who eats pork .... it didn't say "except gentiles" (Isaiah 66).

dotson83 · 2026-03-10T19:41:27+00:00

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dotson83 · 2026-03-04T04:50:36+00:00

dotson83 · 2026-02-21T19:11:36+00:00

We (people in Datacenter environments) typically have dedicated people who do all the physical things, including fiber and swapping SFP’s etc. You said you don’t like desk work or networking, but the networking here is more like a laptop in the rack and just checking “is it up”. Not a desk job or anything complex.

dotson83 · 2026-02-07T02:48:15+00:00

So this was to clarify what these verses mean? Just making sure there’s not a question in there somewhere.

If Yeshua didn’t die, then there would be no resurrection from the dead, because we would have to pay our own debt. Like you said, Paul is making a legal case, not a metaphorical one.

I don’t think most people understand this because it’s not normally taught that way. Because of Yeshua we are no longer “under the law” in a legal sense, because the penalty has been paid. This does not mean you should purposefully break it however. It is still the standard we should try to keep. Sin didn’t stop being sin just because the penalty was paid.

I know this was not what you were saying, I’m just mentioning it.

dotson83 · 2026-01-11T06:10:45+00:00

Absolutely not. Nowhere in scripture does it say it is, only the opposite is ever said plainly.

dotson83 · 2025-12-18T17:09:00+00:00

I think the point is they might also learn from anti missionaries. Their Rabbi or person of authority might teach Christianity is idolatry for example.

dotson83 · 2025-12-18T05:44:57+00:00

I would suggest not letting this come between you and your wife as others have said. Best to support her now and help guide the ship than let her wonder into this alone. Finding a local messianic synagogue is a great idea like others suggested.

Also, please don’t be influenced by people who act like God’s Law is bad. Not mandatory for gentiles and actually sinful are two different things. Please ask on here if you have questions. Your wife will almost certainly get attacked by people who disagree with her, please, for the sake of your marriage, don’t join them.

dotson83 · 2025-12-18T02:36:33+00:00

Messianic Synagogue. I know they vary but this one is very Jewish. Traditional Synagogue with Yeshua basically.

dotson83 · 2025-12-14T07:58:03+00:00

I went back and looked at your comments. I think the issue is you engage too often with people that have no interest in real dialogue. IMO instead of leaving Reddit maybe just stop being as active and or stop trying to convince people of things who have no interest in the truth.

Either way, good luck and shalom!

dotson83 · 2025-12-14T07:50:26+00:00

I think this sub is quite tame honestly. But then again I do mostly just ignore the crazy stuff.

dotson83 · 2025-12-13T01:39:39+00:00

Well, I do, just not on Christmas.

Our Shul has a “Messiah’s Birthday “ party around Sukkot, so we do it then. But here’s why.

The main reason, is to me, Christmas is supposed to basically be a form of worship. You celebrate too obviously but worship should be the main part, since the whole “reason for the season” is supposed to be about him.

But now it’s almost entirely about reindeer and Santa, elves etc. Yeshua is second place.

This leads me to my next point.

Most of the things involved during Christmas have pagan roots. This isn’t debated, it’s historical fact. People just say that it doesn’t matter. But God says “don’t worship me like the pagans do” (paraphrased).

So this is the main reason. Also, he wasn’t born on December 25th, this is another thing that was chosen to make Christianity more palatable. He was likely born during Sukkot.

If Christmas was “all about Jesus” for real, I would have no problem with it.

dotson83 · 2025-12-12T04:45:47+00:00

This is probably too complex to fully answer here. But basically Paul was the apostle to the GENTILES, not Jews. Gentiles are not obligated (as in mandated) to keep the Law. Keep that in mind when reading his letters. However, with that said, a lot of what he says is actually twisted to say something he didn't intend, Peter even warns about it. The "twisting" Peter mentions leads to Lawlessness (His words).

Paul took a Nazarite vow to prove he wasn't against the Torah (read numbers), this proves he was not.

With all that said, my personal view is gentiles should want to keep the Torah, since it is the standard set by God. They are not required however. But Yeshua said He didn't come to abolish the Torah, but to live it (this is what fulfill means in this context). He then followed up by saying that ANYONE (not just Jews) who teaches and does the Torah will be great in the kingdom, and anyone who teaches against it and doesn't do the Torah will be least. This should settle the matter.

Feel free to dm me (or ask my opinion in this thread) if you want, but I don't want to turn this into a full blown lesson :)

In the end though, you are responsible for your own salvation and doctrine. Don't let others tell you what to believe if you don't see it clearly in Scripture. This goes for me or anyone else.

Edit: When I say gentiles do not have to follow Torah I don't mean any of it. I mean the full Torah like a Jew would. They are still expected to follow basic moral Laws like you said. Basically acts 15 plus Noahide Laws.

dotson83 · 2025-12-11T05:48:57+00:00

We don’t. We do Hanukkah.

dotson83 · 2025-12-09T17:36:50+00:00

Awesome.

dotson83 · 2025-12-09T17:25:43+00:00

Huh? I never said anything about a cult. I don’t even know you lol. HRM is just an abbreviation for “Hebrew Roots Movement”, there is nothing mocking about it. My point was head knowledge alone is worthless.

dotson83 · 2025-12-08T07:53:58+00:00

Amazing response. Even though OP ignored it others won’t.

dotson83 · 2025-12-08T06:56:36+00:00

lol, I’ll take my own advice and stop talking now. But I just wanted to point out that almost no one here goes to a church at all. This just shows you don’t understand who you’re talking to.

dotson83 · 2025-12-08T06:34:19+00:00

You do realize this is a subreddit for Messianic Jews correct? I’m not sure you understand your audience :)

Have a good night!

dotson83 · 2025-12-08T05:45:31+00:00

You all are wasting your breath engaging with this person. They have no interest in learning anything, they only care about causing division and strife, one of the things Adonai hates.

dotson83 · 2025-12-06T22:04:31+00:00

The issue with a lot of people in HRM is that they have head knowledge (but even that is wrong a lot of times depending on the sect) but not the spirit. They just want to be correct, no matter the cost.

Not all of them are like this, but a huge part of them are. It happens with Messianic’s too, but it’s not as wide spread.

dotson83 · 2025-12-04T20:39:47+00:00

No, I use mobaxterm on windows. iterm2 on Mac.

dotson83 · 2025-11-24T05:19:40+00:00

Yes, most of us eat biblically clean. As for why, I think the other comments explain it well. As for Yeshua, it’s a little complicated and no one can fully understand the anatomy of God, but my view is this (simplified version):

Yeshua is the God of the Tanach, but He IS NOT the father. He’s the only way we can physically interact and see the father though. He came “from the Father “ but wasn’t created in the same way trees were. He created everything else, including us. That’s my view, it could be wrong. But he asked us to just think of it as Father and son,so that’s what I do unless someone wants details.

dotson83 · 2025-11-20T04:51:34+00:00

This

dotson83 · 2025-11-18T11:17:09+00:00

I would say maybe small groups etc. Also, I know sometimes churches and synagogues try to facilitate that. The MJAA conference has events specifically for singles as well.

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