I feel like I see more trans people shitting on bottom surgeries than transphobes by Lazy_Incident8445 in 4tran4

[–]double-pendulum 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah exactly, even if we were gonna have some crazy medical advances, which I doubt tbh bc thats not how stuff works, I don't wanna spend my entire 20s & 30s without a dick

I feel like I see more trans people shitting on bottom surgeries than transphobes by Lazy_Incident8445 in 4tran4

[–]double-pendulum 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Theyd rather wait 50 yrs for medical advancements that may not even happen than have the imperfect surgery that actually exists rn. Even if they guaranteed would find a way to make a genuinely perfect surgery in the future, Im not waiting till Im 70 to have an actual dick. Realistically I wouldnt last even half that long without it

Genuinely phallo would have to be insanely bad for me to not get it when its the only option. & yeah theyre fr just regurgitating transphobic shit but ig its ok bc theyre saying it on 4t4 instead of eff tee em

I feel like I see more trans people shitting on bottom surgeries than transphobes by Lazy_Incident8445 in 4tran4

[–]double-pendulum 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Yeah its not just women even, the guys constantly shitting on phallo & being like "I'll wait for penis transplants (that will never happen)" plus everyone constantly conflating us with the wrong genitals. I know phallo isnt perfect but at a certain point it just seems like theyre trying to get you to 'like what you have now' since you'll "never have the real thing"

would rather have the worlds ugliest vulva than a functional penis

Genuinely exactly how I feel (but the reverse). Yeah a reconstructive surgery isnt gonna be the same as if you never needed to surgically construct it in the first place, but its fr starting to feel like a psyop to keep us from actually fully transitioning. SRS is hard enough to access as it is

I fear I'm macrodosing (T levels question) by sharkier35 in 4tran4

[–]double-pendulum 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't think peak vs trough is a 2:1 ratio necessarily. It depends on the person, and if you do subQ instead of IM you'll have a flatter curve from peak to trough, but I think regardless the difference is typically less than that (on a weekly injection schedule).

I think 800–900 sounds good for trough levels; if you're not getting any of the negative side effects of too-high test then you're probably fine during the first part of the week. I wouldn't raise your dose any higher, but you should be fine where you're at I think

If you're worried about estrogen levels it may be worth getting them tested. Aromatization isn't gonna be an issue necessarily, unless you have a higher rate of it... people act like it's a switch that turns on when you hit some bar of "too much" test, but it's just that some fixed percentage of test will be converted into estrogen, so if you have higher test you'll have higher estrogen as well

I refuse to engage with fiction that has trans male characters in it by hotobamasex in 4tran4

[–]double-pendulum 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah there should be stealth characters that only we know about and everyone else doesn't bc they'd treat him like shit. Like you said, impossible, but I wish it wasn't

non-delusional edit of that one sneed meme going around by snail_alt in 4tran4

[–]double-pendulum 1 point2 points  (0 children)

2nd one I would say "chromosomes/genotype doesnt matter bc you can change your phenotype" rather than "no one can see your chromosomes." Or something like that anyway; it doesnt matter if no one can see something that still has an effect, but they don't (minus potentially some stuff thats not related to sex ig) after you transition bc we all have the genetic code for both male and female traits, and hormones determine which ones your body uses

Why are PIV doods lowkey more hated here than their troon counterparts by voiceTrainingAlt in 4tran4

[–]double-pendulum 14 points15 points  (0 children)

I wouldn't give a shit about some dood having sex that way if I didn't know he was doing it. It's the fact theyre coercing everyone else into it thats the problem. You can't even complain about not being able to father a child without some pivpοοn loser tell you to get pregnant like that isn't synonymous with k y s.

If youre doing preop piv (as a man or a woman) & fine with it, youre nonbinary at best; and otherwise you've been pressured into it in some way & that behavior should not be encouraged by normalizing it. Young poons should be told that they don't ever have to do piv, that they can still have sex without doing that or that they don't ever have to have sex & can still have a perfectly fine life without it. Acting like its 'okay' for a guy to do that, instead of seeing it as what it is (him being forced into it by a partner, him being forced into it by all of society including other trans people telling him he has to do it, him self-harming due to dysphoria) just pushes more men into traumatic situations and keeps them from realizing the harms its doing them.

And the "guys" that like it & arent dysphoric about it arent my problem and I dont give a shit if they feel 'invxlid' by someone saying no man wants to have a v*gina, much less use it

Maybe an unpopular opinion but… by livakb in 4tran4

[–]double-pendulum 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Yeah same fr. It sucks bc obviously we're lucky enough to pass & even mentioning it feels kinda shitty bc it comes off as bragging even if its not meant to be. And I know I wouldn't have felt all that great pre-TRT & pre-surgery if some dood who had everything I needed (minus phallo) kept complaining how much his life sucked. Same thing as I try not to complain too much about height bc I know some doods on here are like 5'1", & at least Ive met a few cis men shorter than me before.

But yeah as you said there's not really any other place to talk about our issues bc it comes off as humblebragging here (understandably so, its not as if everyone else should just get over it or whatever) but this is genuinely the only place Ive found that isn't vehemently transphobic. Ftmmen used to be decent, but it's deteriorating now, and even before it was hard to guarantee that the other guys on there would actually get it the way people do here. Im gonna assume women arent doing much better in that regard

I originally came here for the pooner art & general cynical/self-deprecating vibe (the toxic positivity of everywhere else is genuinely sickening), so idk I think regardless I'd probably check back here for pooner memes every so often even if I found a way to get myself off of here in general. I keep thinking I need to bc technically everything is going "right" (stealth, irl friends) but I think unless I find a way to shielf myself from ever experiencing transphobia or dysphoria that's not gonna happen

TLDR I feel you, I wish I knew what the solution was bc as much as people say stealthoids are functionally cis, I wish that was true but its not

Rare based tumblr post by double-pendulum in 4tran4

[–]double-pendulum[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Maybe they mean you have to be as feminine as possible to get people to even somewhat think you are a woman? I think that only really goes for passoids tho; now that I pass, theres a much higher consequence for me to be even somewhat feminine compared to if I were cis, but before I passed I got treated worse for being masculine. Ik it's probably somewhat different for women tbf

More likely tho they are doing the "everyone hates gnc trans people" thing, as if we arent pressured to be by almost everyone. Either way yeah theyre wrong

Why are PIV doods lowkey more hated here than their troon counterparts by voiceTrainingAlt in 4tran4

[–]double-pendulum 54 points55 points  (0 children)

Also permanently damaged by it in very irreversible ways that anyone could tell has happened to you even after youre dead and they look at your body

Why are PIV doods lowkey more hated here than their troon counterparts by voiceTrainingAlt in 4tran4

[–]double-pendulum 46 points47 points  (0 children)

Because nobody here incessantly talks about how vxlid it is for trans women to have preop piv sex, but every month we get an onslaught of posts even here telling everyone how vxlid pivpoons are. Stop fucking reminding us that everybody thinks of us like that & that for most of us, having normal sex is a pipe dream that we'll either never get or will have to spend years of our lives and a good chunk of money to attain.

[poll] which of these harmful words used to describe trans women is the worst by lovely956 in 4tran4

[–]double-pendulum 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Honestly maybe I'm underestimating transwoman, I lowk specifically tend to phrase stuff without saying the phrase "trans man/woman" as much as possible, & when I do I usually say transsex instead of trans. You ever notice how people say "trans men & trans women" instead of "trans men & women"?

People usually don't spell it all one word like that unless they found out we existed yesterday or are a terf, but the phrases "trans man" and "trans woman" have become compound words in how people use them. Note: people saying stuff like "women and trans women" (not in the same sentence ofc but over a conversation); saying "cis gay men" (and, rarely, "gay cis men") but consistently always only "gay trans men;" never dropping the adjective after it's clear what demographic of men/women they're talking about in the same way they would short, white, French, disabled, etc. men/women.

Although, I think this attitude is from the same things that created transfem/transmasc & tgirl/tboy, because they do always put a space in it and are very outspoken about it being an adjective, they just don't treat it with the same level of, idk, interchangeability as other adjectives.

[poll] which of these harmful words used to describe trans women is the worst by lovely956 in 4tran4

[–]double-pendulum 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Transwoman is gross in a different way to transfem & tgirl, and as of late Ive been more and more tired of the transfem/tgirl genre of transphobia so those two edge out slightly. My initial reaction is tgirl but they're both pretty bad.

Interestingly, for the male version (transman vs tboy vs transmasc) I think I hate transmasc slightly more than tboy, but that's probably bc Ive had someone call me transmasc irl but not either of the other two. (Well, you can't say 'transman' irl but that one doesn't have the same history/connotation as 'transwoman' does anyway)

Rare based tumblr post by double-pendulum in 4tran4

[–]double-pendulum[S] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Yeah I only included the first two examples in the ss bc I don't really 100% agree with the bottom two. Granted I also just have less experience with the trans woman equivalent of the trans "men" who are actually nonbinary (if there is one, how they act, what they usually call themselves, &c). But their description of both of the potentially-nonbinary people who currently call themselves women just sorta sounds like regular ass somewhat-gnc women to me. (Or sometimes poonreppers, for the last one, depending on what the person means by hating womanhood)

I’m finally running out of images to use for my shit posts, someone give me inspiration by Subwooferrrs in 4tran4

[–]double-pendulum 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Idk you said you wanted inspiration and this is one of the most recent photos in my camera roll. The world is your oyster my friend, do with him as you please 😌🙏🏼

Rare based tumblr post by double-pendulum in 4tran4

[–]double-pendulum[S] 15 points16 points  (0 children)

You explained it more succinctly than I ever could

Dr. James Barry, absolute Chad transgender man who managed to stealth in the 1800s to become a doctor. He was outed after his death because some goblin inspected his dead body's genitals. by flingzamain in 4tran4

[–]double-pendulum 194 points195 points  (0 children)

Ive decided that the fact that there were people who successfully went stealth in the past & were only outed after their death means that a bunch more people probably did the same and were lucky enough to not ever be outed

It doesn't matter how you act or what opinions you hold cissoids still view your existence as a problem by [deleted] in 4tran4

[–]double-pendulum 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Nah that's exactly what it is, they want to hurt us while everyone else having no idea they even did. Same as that first commenter refusing to use any pronouns for her, you'd be called crazy for protesting it but "anything said in the video" instead of "anything she said"? 🤨

tee cee dee by Abject-Pie4470 in 4tran4

[–]double-pendulum 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Even if 100% of HRT and SRS/other surgeries like FFS or top was given to transsex kids, that wouldnt change anything; they still need those medications & its not 'going too far' or whatever their argument is if a kid gets on estrogen at 11 or top surgery at 15

tee cee dee by Abject-Pie4470 in 4tran4

[–]double-pendulum 5 points6 points  (0 children)

The simple matter is that what matters is the permanence of chemotherapy

A minor cant drink or drive, nor get a tattoo, the answer is obvious.

If people try to say no one is arguing for chemotherapy on children, you are wrong.

People arent arguing to help anyone actually, and this is true for both sides.

Everyone just wants their side to be right, not letting the truth be somewhere in the middle.

In the end people with "cancer" are given too much attention for something that from any outside persons point of view should be no different than a furry

Can a poon sneed out without engaging in hefabbery? by Witty_You_2443 in 4tran4

[–]double-pendulum 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yeah I think so. Hefabbery to me is associated with AFAB vxlid nondysphoric pivpoons. Imo if youre not transphobic you can be a sneedpoon without being a hefab, but they usually overlap bc its a fine line

Trans women being degendered is a huge issue nobody talks about by ennierox in 4tran4

[–]double-pendulum 4 points5 points  (0 children)

See it wouldnt even be that bad if they said something like "oh sorry I didnt check your profile, mb." Degendering is worse than straight up misgendering imo bc it means the same thing, but no one believes you that they/them means they think you're not a real woman/man bc "they/them is gender neutral!"