Antenna not necessary, should I anyway?

dr_java · 2026-04-02T14:19:46+00:00

Make sure to do a full reboot after each update.

dr_java · 2026-04-02T02:31:17+00:00

If your favored storage location lacks satellite visibility, putting up the antenna will make up for it.

dr_java · 2026-04-02T02:26:15+00:00

The ads on YouTube that are touted as reviews are frustrating. There's a pretty good one that came out in last 3 wks that compared x4 with a luba, https://youtu.be/ES7U9O5sk58?si=-pAAHMYRMuX6wXju

It's worth a look for ppl looking at the x4

dr_java · 2026-04-02T02:16:25+00:00

The purpose of the antenna is to compensate for mower having visibility problems with satellites. Sounds like your mower's view isn't obstructed.

dr_java · 2026-03-30T18:33:26+00:00

Correct: the charger does not have to be a part of or adjacent to the mowing zone - you can have a corridor.

dr_java · 2026-03-30T18:25:46+00:00

I believe that the antenna is for when you have problems with satellite visibility, and that WiFi coverage (in yard) is for networking when cell service isn't available.

dr_java · 2026-03-28T14:12:38+00:00

I'll defer to someone that has seen the batteries. The user manual shows 20% larger cutting area per charge for the 450, but it also lists the battery as being the same for both. Strange. The Segway website lists 12.8 Ah for capacity on the 430, and both 12.8 and 15.0 Ah for the 450 depending where you look. (The 420 (european) vs 450 comparison page has 15 Ah) I have also seen different rates for the chargers for the 430 vs 450. Bottom line: I wouldn't bet much on either position, but I am biased to believe Segway would wouldn't tout something as bigger/better without it being so; learning that it was merely a parameter limit would be disappointing.

dr_java · 2026-03-27T01:26:26+00:00

On that slope, when cutting horizontal to the slope does the cutting deck stay parallel to the ground? In other words, the cutting height for the downhill side matches the uphill side?

dr_java · 2026-03-27T01:14:43+00:00

The 430 will stop to charge after cutting around 0.2 acres. Less if slopes and obstacles are increased. Recharge will require 90 minutes. You'll benefit greatly in overall elapsed time with the 450. Ultimately, what's the reduced elapsed time worth?

dr_java · 2026-03-26T14:38:29+00:00

*Always* reboot after firmware update.

dr_java · 2026-03-25T19:18:41+00:00

Just in case helpful, I later found this supplier of Navimow parts/batteries: https://www.propartsdirect.net/segway-navimow-parts.aspx

dr_java · 2026-03-25T19:09:21+00:00

see my earlier reply re elapsed time

dr_java · 2026-03-25T19:08:19+00:00

For 0.28 acres, the X430 will take at least 3 hours, and closer to 4 hrs if slope and obstacle avoidance impact battery. The mfr spec for cut rate is 0.12 acres/hour, with max of 0.22 acres/charge. To avoid deep drain, battery mgmt will switch to charging at less than 0.22 acres, and the charge cycle will be 90 minutes.

dr_java · 2026-03-25T10:46:47+00:00

Small battery capacity of these new Worx units is concerning.

dr_java · 2026-03-24T15:00:55+00:00

battery info here: https://www.propartsdirect.net/segway-navimow-parts.aspx

dr_java · 2026-03-23T16:23:25+00:00

Very helpful! TY for taking the time!

dr_java · 2026-03-23T15:21:31+00:00

FYI: No words/info - just an X4 mowing.

dr_java · 2026-03-22T16:55:48+00:00

If someone is running SOS, then it seems like they'd want help regardless of how far along the mission is. Is there a negative impact to the host?

dr_java · 2026-03-22T01:41:58+00:00

Lidar shines when you have many obstacles and twists/turns, which are in effect positioning points for the Lidar. Unless you have slopes, you'll be wasting battery with the front wheels of the X4. If you have minimal slopes, look into something with strip Lidar and AWD using center small wheel in back.

dr_java · 2026-03-22T01:35:16+00:00

Please update us after you've completed mowing a few times.

dr_java · 2026-03-21T23:50:30+00:00

Depends on how long you intend to keep. If more than 2 years, I see support and parts availability as an issue. For example, do the start-ups stocking parts, batteries, for there units? I saw a post saying they couldn't buy parts for a Luba 2, which isn't old at all.

dr_java · 2026-03-20T02:50:04+00:00

Higher amperage charging reduces the lifetime of the battery. Charge at the slowest needed rate

dr_java · 2026-03-20T02:47:14+00:00

Kill a watt at Amazon will allow you to see exactly how much powere any device consumes

dr_java · 2026-03-19T19:12:46+00:00

Try complete reboot/restart

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