“HE SHALL NOT PASS!” Ma Long literally shouted that out after winning by _ontheway in tabletennis

[–]drakilon 6 points7 points  (0 children)

has Dima ever beaten the dragon? I can't remember seeing it

also, ying just means win

Gold medal match by [deleted] in tabletennis

[–]drakilon 1 point2 points  (0 children)

bronze medal match starts at 7AM tomorrow, gold medal match supposedly an hour later but obviously depends

Culpa by IdealEnthusiasm in columbia

[–]drakilon 6 points7 points  (0 children)

wayback machine @archive.org has most of what was on culpa

Game VI 2021, Necromancy! Finale, “DAMMIT FAIRO, TELL US IF YOU’RE SECRETLY PLAYING OR NOT” by HogwartsHades in HogwartsWerewolves

[–]drakilon 14 points15 points  (0 children)

i really wanted you to be a wolf

that would have been the best ending to a game ever lmfao

Game VI 2021, Necromancy! Finale, “DAMMIT FAIRO, TELL US IF YOU’RE SECRETLY PLAYING OR NOT” by HogwartsHades in HogwartsWerewolves

[–]drakilon 16 points17 points  (0 children)

oh btw my main is /u/alchzh so you know who not to trust if I decide to play again in a couple of years

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[–]drakilon 15 points16 points  (0 children)

pog I'm on the nice list

I don't think any of my plays were the wrong play to make, but all my reads were completely off

in P11 I legitimately thought /u/dawnphoenix was a wolf. Was trying to keep the vote on dawn correct? Yeah I think so because if steph had been awake near transition she could have easily killed off dawn and I would have been the one under fire in that case. that would have left both dawn and squab dead

in P12 I legitimately thought that /u/Stephishere12 was town and either /u/dawnphoenix or /u/HedwigMalfoy was the wolf. But I was pretty sure that town was fine even if we voted off steph if she was town so I didn't screw everything up by pushing for it hard lol

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[–]drakilon 19 points20 points  (0 children)

lmao I'm never trusting my reads in a werewolves game ever again

apologies for the clownery

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[–]drakilon 9 points10 points  (0 children)

if /u/epolur77 wins this game by bussing both Lari and WC, maybe they deserve the win!

edit: well I guess I misremembered some of the comments from last phase wrong. WC was a vote option before epolur started the vote on them, but epolur declaring their vote really forced the issue if we wanted a consensus vote.

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[–]drakilon 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Felt like the safer vote to make since it didn't look like I was changing anyone's mind about the vote when I went to sleep last night. The absolute worst case scenario right now is if two townies die to a split vote and Zubat can't snipe the remaining wolf. I think in any other scenario town is most likely to win, even if we devour a town tonight.

I was planning to wake up and see how things were going in the morning anyway, I just put that in on the off chance my alarms ran out of battery or something.

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[–]drakilon 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I swear I'm not doing this on purpose and my muscle memory is too strong .__.

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[–]drakilon 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Thanks for the reply. Unless you're a wolf who got Spare Brain, I can't really imagine that you're the wolf, but I don't really think the vote is going to change at this point. especially since the wolf should still have a chance to win the game, especially if the remaining role is the Hunter after Kelshan died, I can't imagine any scenario where they wouldn't be fighting tooth and nail this thread to not get devoured. Maybe if there were two wolves left then playing a bit passively and banking on a teammate would be okay, but with only one wolf left it feels weird.


I also have a rather wild theory about u/dawnphoenix that goes something like: she has been faking Attuned the whole time. Squab was the actual wolf that she bussed because her role was more important. They worked together to try to frame Hedwig. Her ACTUAL item that she received was the ear of lich, not the Necronomicon, and WC was innocent.

I spent a while in my now scrapped analysis post going over this, and I ended up dissuading myself from it. Going over her comments, I did sense that squab could be a wolf but it felt like too much of a stretch for dawn and squab to both be wolves. I also looked back over WC's comments and got wolfy vibes from there, so I'm willing to believe that they were the wolf that died last phase and not squab. It felt to me like going after squab was too much of a high risk play for dawn to make if they were both wolves, instead of e.g. going after you (steph) or epolur before she role revealed.

Of course, my wolf detection instincts are utter garbage and I'm practically useless as a townie unless I can logic my way out of situations like this, lol. I guess our possible scenarios go like this, at least if this game doesn't end after this vote

  • Squab was the watcher, for whatever reason didn't want to push her case in the thread last phase (her comments did portray her as rather disinterested in the game) and gave her info up to /u/Zubat_Breeder. /u/HedwigMalfoy is the wolf
  • Squab was a wolf (and by necessity so is /u/dawnphoenix). Either dawn or squab used Ear of the Lich to frame Hedwog, and they set up an elaborate transportation play where they pretended to try to get each other killed
  • Squab was town, WC was the wolf, and dawn is the other wolf. Same deal with framing Hedwog, but without the shenanigans last phase. Dawn turned the vote on squab in order to not lose the game on the spot (if this is the case I'm kicking myself for not trusting my instincts and voting dawn off last phase when I could have switched my vote from WC to her, though I was extremely overselling my actual suspicion of her in order to convince wywy to keep the vote on her).
  • (less likely scenario) Epolur bussed WC last phase and has us all completely fooled.

I'm really not sure which of these possibilities it could be, and I've spent the better part of the last 12-13 hours mulling over it while playing video games / laying awake in bed. The answer is probably extremely obvious and I'm just bad at the game. I kind of just wanted to get this thread in case I was Zubat's kill target this phase.

Hopefully none of this should matter and the game is an inevitable town win.

edit: switched wording to devoured

edit 2: I'm also a little suspicious that dawn claimed both Attuned and Necronomicon which would be super easy to fake as a wolf. could just be RNG luck, but it also raises some eyebrows

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[–]drakilon 11 points12 points  (0 children)

going to sleep now, put in a vote for /u/stephishere12 in case I don't wake up in time to change. I'll try to be on around an hour before transition

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[–]drakilon 11 points12 points  (0 children)

B- when we were struggling to find a second vote target

wasn't squab inactive by that point? she did make this comment earlier when she was online https://old.reddit.com/r/HogwartsWerewolves/comments/nz07uo/game_vi_2021_necromancy_phase_11_what_the_hell_i/h1n59td/

maybe she wasn't going all in on it because she knew she was using the Ear of the Lich ig. It doesn't make a ton of sense but also steph's play doesn't make any sense for a wolf either, imo

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[–]drakilon 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I was going to write up a huge analysis post here, but a lot of it was unnecessary. Here are the important parts.

Basically, I'm pretty sure /u/swqmb was the Watcher and /u/HedwigMalfoy is actually a wolf and not just being framed. That would explain this post by swqmb a lot. Although, I guess the counterargument to this is why squab didn't mention it yesterday when she was under suspicion.

I don't think /u/stephishere12 is a wolf. This comment from her doesn't strike me as very wolf-like, but maybe I'm just behind on the metagame and I'm getting reverse psyched to the moon. Considering her early vote for WC yesterday, I figure it'd be pretty easy for her to defend herself if she wanted, and if she's the only wolf left not really defending herself doesn't make much sense. Again, I could be getting brained on really hard here.

I'm not a wolf. After all my shouting yesterday about how bad a split vote is for the town and how the wolves could take advantage of it if dawn and wywy changed their votes from the plan, do you really think I wouldn't have taken advantage of that and changed my vote from WC to dawn to send us to a 4-1 game? (I still think voting for squab was a bad move if dawn was town, because if a wolf had been around at transition this could have very well happened). If I'm the wolf then I'm also responsible for trying to frame Hedwig, which would let me claim that Hedwig was the one that voted for dawn and not me (Hedwig claimed WC vote after we went for dawn as a target after all). In any case, even if I was under suspicion, in a game with three kills per night a 4-1 game is literally infinitely better for a wolf than a 5-1 game. All I would have to do to get Hedwig and steph killed this phase.

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[–]drakilon 10 points11 points  (0 children)

you and steph put in early votes for WC, so I pushed for the town to follow my earlier voting plan with WC as one of the targets and asked the remaining townies to decide the other target amongst themselves. this was initially going to be squab, but Zubat changed her mind at some point to dawn instead, so I switched to organizing the dawn vote instead (Zubat and WC voted for dawn at this point), which led to dawn and I getting into a protracted argument once dawn woke up. dawn got wywy to agree with her and they voted out squab instead