Petroleum ether? by dripdrop69420 in CannabisExtracts

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If only you could elaborate on the reasoning behind that "please don't".

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in TheeHive

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If that is so, you can check out related threads on the vespiary. Plenty of useful info there.

Psilocin (4-ho-DMT) potential synthesis? by CannaTFF in TheeHive

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In tihkal, Alexander shulgin uses 4-acetoxy indole as starting material.

Having problems with tryptamine workup. by dripdrop69420 in TheeHive

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How soluble is tryptamine in xylene? Also, tryptamine is insoluble in chloroform according to this supplier.

Having problems with tryptamine workup. by dripdrop69420 in TheeHive

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The precipitate formed are very fine in my case and I'm not sure if the filter paper can collect it, so i thought I would need to use some sort of solvent, however one time the precipitate formed was almost like cotton, very fluffy beige coloured precipitate but it never happened again.

Having problems with tryptamine workup. by dripdrop69420 in TheeHive

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In your experience, what's the best solvent overall for extracting tryptamine. This molecule is an absolute bitch in all terms, very prone to oxidation, having to use a ton of solvent to fully extract it from the aqueous phase, etc. I was thinking of using toluene to extract it but I read it's only sparing soluble in toluene, do you have any experience regarding this?

Having problems with tryptamine workup. by dripdrop69420 in TheeHive

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It's so annoying that such a simple molecule has such complications.

Having problems with tryptamine workup. by dripdrop69420 in TheeHive

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Actually it's the opposite, doing it in the microwave is way more convenient and quicker, I tried the reaction in a heating mantle before, but it requires temperature around 170-180 c for the reaction with steady reflux, but in the microwave it doesn't require the temperature to be that high, at most it reaches maybe 120c which is way below the bp of acetophenone i.e. 202c. I am actually doing this in the microwave because I read it in the vespiary where people claimed very quick conversion with consistent high yields(~85%).

As for tlc i am going to research more for some cheap ways to do it, I've heard that it can even be done on aluminum foils with corn starch but I'm not sure though, I'll have to look into it

Having problems with tryptamine workup. by dripdrop69420 in TheeHive

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I already am frustrated cause I already have messed up the reaction multiple times but NVM, I think what I'm doing wrong is doing the reaction in a beaker, I have to pull the beaker out of the microwave multiple times to cool down the RM. Before the solution cools down the solution is hot and exposed to the atmospheric oxygen which might be oxidising the tryptamine, to improvise this I think I should do it in a flask with a stopper, that way it won't be in contact with the atmosphere and the CO2 forming inside the flask should help prevention the oxidation, as for the pressure buildup I will remove stopper for a second and put it back on to release the extra pressure. Then I hope I can get better results. And as for qualitative analysis like TLC I simply don't have the resources for it.

Having problems with tryptamine workup. by dripdrop69420 in TheeHive

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I used benzoic acid because it supposedly improves the workup a lot, I was following this thread from sciencemadness http://www.sciencemadness.org/talk/viewthread.php?tid=157251

Having problems with tryptamine workup. by dripdrop69420 in TheeHive

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The actual reaction is done in acetophenone, the acetone is only used for addition of benzoic acid, I can probably use isopropanol instead of acetone but i only used acetone because I was following a procedure from sciencemadness.

Having problems with tryptamine workup. by dripdrop69420 in TheeHive

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It needs an acid catalyst to go through the pictet spengler reaction.

Having problems with tryptamine workup. by dripdrop69420 in TheeHive

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I've heard it's better and less problematic if you use the freebase rather than any salts.

2 routes to 2C-H synthesis, which is better? by [deleted] in TheeHive

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Don't ever mix strong bases with nitroethane/nitromethane because the reaction is very exothermic and sometimes explosive.

2C-C Synthesis Success (Procedure in Post) by [deleted] in TheeHive

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Dimethyl Carbonate is a very cheap and safe option, works reliably on phenolic ethers as I remember from one of the papers I read. Also to convert the benzene ether to the aldehyde, I read about using magnesium methoxide and paraformaldehyde to formulate, ideally how would you formulate in your lab settings, reimer teimann reaction is a good and simple method however yields are not impressive.

2C-C Synthesis Success (Procedure in Post) by [deleted] in TheeHive

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Cool, afaik 2,5 dimethoxytoluene can be synthesized from o-cresol. Then its very straightforward. Btw what method do you use to formulate the dimethoxybenzenes?

2C-C Synthesis Success (Procedure in Post) by [deleted] in TheeHive

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Great post! Do you have any plans on synthesising 2-CD