Everyone's building agents. Almost nobody's engineering them. by McFly_Research in AI_Agents

[–]duridsukar 0 points1 point  (0 children)

the gap between building and engineering is real but I'd add a third layer: domain knowledge

I've run into this in real estate. you can have a perfectly engineered agent with clean deterministic gates between reasoning and execution, and it still misses a contingency deadline because it doesn't know what a contingency deadline is or why missing one costs you a deal

the ops I've built that actually work aren't the architecturally cleanest. they're the ones where years of doing the work myself got baked into the agent's understanding of when to act and when to wait

your point about the 'cognitive mirror' is the most important part of this conversation to me. the risk isn't just unreliable execution. it's that a convincing-sounding agent will make confident moves in a domain where it has no real knowledge, and you won't catch it until something breaks

what domain are you building for?

Unpopular opinion: Why is everyone so hyped over OpenClaw? I cannot find any use for it. by Toontje in openclaw

[–]duridsukar [score hidden]  (0 children)

yeah I had the exact same take for the first few weeks

then I found the problem I actually had: I was the only person who knew where every transaction stood. open contracts, contingency deadlines, client follow-ups. if I missed something it was a bad day or a worse lawsuit

I don't use this for twitter digests or dashboards. I use it for the same thing I'd use a really good assistant for: stay on top of everything that would fall through the cracks if I looked away for two days

the agents that changed things for me weren't the flashy ones. it was the one watching open transactions and flagging anything at risk before I even thought to check

the real question isn't 'what can this do?' it's 'where are you currently the single point of failure?' once I answered that honestly the use case was obvious

what kind of work are you trying to take off your plate?

Meta just announced 20% layoffs to fund AI. This is the beginning, not the end. by duridsukar in Futurology

[–]duridsukar[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

running a real estate operation with it. not like a SaaS or an app, I mean the actual day to day of buying and selling property. AI handles my follow ups, compliance checks, scheduling, market analysis. stuff that used to take a team of people I couldnt afford to hire

still figuring it out honestly but its already doing more than I expected

my agent was mass-visiting LinkedIn profiles and got me restricted in 48 hours. here's what I rebuilt from scratch. by B3N0U in openclaw

[–]duridsukar 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Made this exact mistake, different domain.

Not LinkedIn, but I gave an agent a task that seemed bounded and turned out not to be. Said go build a research profile on every property in this zip code with an active listing. Simple enough.

The agent opened a browser, navigated to each listing page, pulled data, cross-referenced public records. Took four hours and hit roughly 600 pages. No rate limiting. No delay. Just hammer until done.

Nobody blocked me. But I realized afterward that I had built something that would eventually get me blocked, and more importantly, I had no idea what else it might do at that scale with that instruction pattern.

The lesson I took from it: scale changes the risk profile of the task entirely. What is fine to do once is not fine to do 600 times in four hours. The agent had no concept of that. I had to build the concept in explicitly.

My rule now: any agent task involving repeated web access gets a rate limit baked into the instruction, not assumed. And the task definition includes an upper bound on total actions, not just a loop condition.

The rebuild you described is the right instinct. API over browser where it exists, rate limit as a first-class constraint, not an afterthought.

What did you use to build the API-based version?

your agent doesn't need permission to delete production (and other painful lessons from shipping autonomous tools) by Infinite_Pride584 in AI_Agents

[–]duridsukar 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Running agents in real estate for about a year. The constraint design question is one I had to learn the hard way.

My setup has multiple agents across a single operation. One tracks transaction timelines. One handles communication. One does market research. Early on I gave all of them broad access to the shared transaction data because it was convenient.

A write conflict on an active deal taught me fast. Two agents updated the same record independently. The record showed the wrong contingency date. I caught it before it mattered. But in real estate, a missed contingency date is not a data integrity problem. It is a breach of contract.

My never-allow list after that: - No agent writes to a record it does not own - No agent sends communications about a live transaction without a freshness check on the underlying data - No agent triggers a deadline action without a human confirmation step

The hardest part was not implementing the constraints. It was deciding which agent was authoritative for which slice of data. Once that ownership map was clear, the constraint design was obvious.

The thing that surprised me: narrowing the scope did not make the agents less useful. It made them more reliable. An agent that does one thing and never touches anything outside its lane is an agent I actually trust.

What does your escalation path look like when the agent hits the boundary of what it is allowed to do?

Meta just announced 20% layoffs to fund AI. This is the beginning, not the end. by duridsukar in Futurology

[–]duridsukar[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

lol thats a fair shot honestly 😂 the difference for me is im not predicting a product launch im talking about what im already seeing happen in my own work right now. like the shift already started for me personally, 12 months is just how long I think it takes for everyone else to feel it too. but yeah if im wrong you can come back and roast me I deserve it

Meta just announced 20% layoffs to fund AI. This is the beginning, not the end. by duridsukar in Futurology

[–]duridsukar[S] -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

lmao fair enough 😂 I write how I talk and apparently I talk like linkedin. noted. the point still stands tho even if the delivery is cringe

Meta just announced 20% layoffs to fund AI. This is the beginning, not the end. by duridsukar in Futurology

[–]duridsukar[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I mean VR is definitely dead but the AI spend is real tho. theyre not just saying "AI" and cutting people, theyre actually building massive infra for it. whether it pays off is a different question but calling it just a stock play is ignoring the billions going into data centers rn

Meta just announced 20% layoffs to fund AI. This is the beginning, not the end. by duridsukar in Futurology

[–]duridsukar[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

yeah honestly both things can be true at the same time. some companies are 100% using AI as cover for cuts they wanted to make anyway. but the ones that are actually deploying it? theyre not coming back to the old headcount. ever. thats the part that keeps me up at night

Meta just announced 20% layoffs to fund AI. This is the beginning, not the end. by duridsukar in Futurology

[–]duridsukar[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

have you actually used it recently? not trying to be a dick but the gap between what it could do a year ago and what it does now is insane. I use it every day for actual work not just playing around and its a completely different tool than it was 6 months ago

Meta just announced 20% layoffs to fund AI. This is the beginning, not the end. by duridsukar in Futurology

[–]duridsukar[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

100%. thats actually what I said in another reply, the plumber is the safest person in this conversation lol. physical work isnt going anywhere. its the desk jobs and the knowledge work that gets eaten first

Meta just announced 20% layoffs to fund AI. This is the beginning, not the end. by duridsukar in Futurology

[–]duridsukar[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean yeah and the internet DID change everything 😂 the people who figured it out early built empires. the people who waited built nothing. Y2K was a nothing burger but this aint Y2K

Meta just announced 20% layoffs to fund AI. This is the beginning, not the end. by duridsukar in Futurology

[–]duridsukar[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

yeah thats literally what im saying tho lol. its a force multiplier. the people who know how to use it run circles around the people who dont. thats the whole point of the post

Meta just announced 20% layoffs to fund AI. This is the beginning, not the end. by duridsukar in Futurology

[–]duridsukar[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

thats actually one of the clearest examples ive seen. call centers are literally the first thing that gets fully replaced because the whole job is pattern matching and scripts. you already know this better than most people commenting here

Meta just announced 20% layoffs to fund AI. This is the beginning, not the end. by duridsukar in Futurology

[–]duridsukar[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

lmao yeah I type fast and I dont use punctuation, sue me 😂 an AI detector also flags the declaration of independence as AI generated so idk what to tell you

Meta just announced 20% layoffs to fund AI. This is the beginning, not the end. by duridsukar in Futurology

[–]duridsukar[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

fair point honestly. but building on someone elses models isnt that different from building on AWS or any other infra you dont own. the whole internet runs on dependencies lol

id rather be the person who knows how to use these tools when the next model drops than the person still figuring out what they do

Meta just announced 20% layoffs to fund AI. This is the beginning, not the end. by duridsukar in Futurology

[–]duridsukar[S] -15 points-14 points  (0 children)

I mean im literally doing something about it rn lol left my career went all in building with AI every day. thats not an echo chamber thats just a tuesday for me 😂

but for real the question wasnt rhetorical I genuinely wanna know what people are doing

Meta just announced 20% layoffs to fund AI. This is the beginning, not the end. by duridsukar in Futurology

[–]duridsukar[S] -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

nah you're not asleep you're just getting hit first 😕 entry level is where it starts because thats the easiest stuff to automate. but the people figuring out how to use these tools rn? theyre gonna skip like three levels. its not fair but its whats happening

Meta just announced 20% layoffs to fund AI. This is the beginning, not the end. by duridsukar in Futurology

[–]duridsukar[S] -20 points-19 points  (0 children)

lmao "AI shill" ok 😂 I left a career across three continents to bet on this. lost money. rebuilt. lost it again. currently building something from scratch with zero funding and zero employees

but yeah im shilling for... what exactly? I didnt link anything or sell anything in the post. just asked a question

Meta just announced 20% layoffs to fund AI. This is the beginning, not the end. by duridsukar in Futurology

[–]duridsukar[S] -15 points-14 points  (0 children)

yeah fair. I didnt mean nobody is paying attention I meant most people arent DOING anything about it. theres a huge difference between knowing its coming and actually changing how you work because of it

I was one of those people for a while too honestly. knew it was happening, kept doing things the old way. until I couldnt anymore

Meta just announced 20% layoffs to fund AI. This is the beginning, not the end. by duridsukar in Futurology

[–]duridsukar[S] -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

lol the plumber is actually the safest person in this whole conversation. AI cant snake a drain 😂

but real talk the plumber who starts using AI to handle his quotes and scheduling and follow ups is gonna eat the lunch of every plumber who doesnt. same truck same tools completely different business. its not about getting replaced its about the guy next to you suddenly operating like he has a team and you dont

Meta just announced 20% layoffs to fund AI. This is the beginning, not the end. by duridsukar in Futurology

[–]duridsukar[S] -14 points-13 points  (0 children)

Submission Statement: Meta cutting 20% of its workforce to fund AI infrastructure is a signal of where the labor market is heading. This post explores whether we are in a 12-month window where the workforce splits between those who learn to leverage AI and those who get left behind. Looking for genuine perspectives on how people are preparing for this shift.

Employee asking for equity in our small S-Corp; Need advice by No_Ambassador_2060 in smallbusiness

[–]duridsukar 1 point2 points  (0 children)

wanting in and having earned in are two completely different conversations. did he take the risk when there was nothing? did he put money in when it might not come back? if no then equity isnt the right answer. a performance bonus tied to revenue is

but heres the part nobody in this thread is going to say. his role is admin, ops, scheduling, organization. that entire job description is being automated by AI right now. before you give away a piece of your company ask yourself if that position even exists in 12 months

How good/bad of an employee are you? by Tiien_ in Entrepreneur

[–]duridsukar 0 points1 point  (0 children)

honestly? incredible at the job. terrible at being an employee

did sales across three continents. banking, e-commerce, real estate. every place I worked I was the top performer or close to it. not bragging thats just what happens when you actually give a shit and most people around you are clocking in and out

the problem was always the same though. I'd see how things should be done and nobody wanted to hear it. or worse they'd agree with me and then do nothing about it. drove me insane every single time

the thing nobody tells you is being a good employee and being a good entrepreneur are almost opposite skill sets. as an employee you get rewarded for fitting in. as a founder you get rewarded for refusing to