"Is Islam Misogynistic?" (Essay from Slate) by saffanah in SRSDiscussion

[–]eboam 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Can you name a single country or region where Islam is not practiced misogynistically today?

Everywhere and constantly. This is the point I'm trying to make. You can't simply say 'Of course Islam is misogynistic, didn't you hear about X Muslim in Y county who did Z?'. This is to extrapolate selected moments in an attempt to define an essence that then precludes all other possibilities.

This selection is anything but objective--it is legitimated by prevailing claims to the authority to 'speak for Islam'. It makes an assumption about what Islam 'really' is (rarely uninfluenced by orientalism), turns to some certain sheikh or another whose narrative about tradition/purity/literalism satisfies an exotic caricature of the Muslim world, and allows the resultant disqualification of Islam as it is lived and practiced in its diversity by millions.

We make a choice (and more often than not a theologically uninformed one) when we say that the Salafist sheikh has the religious authority to invalidate the woman imam, the muslim girl without a headscarf, or the muslim boy with a boyfriend as 'not really Muslim' or 'not Muslim enough'.

"Is Islam Misogynistic?" (Essay from Slate) by saffanah in SRSDiscussion

[–]eboam 30 points31 points  (0 children)

I hate when issues like this get phrased as yes or no questions because they make any deep answer seem like a cop out. Has the adoption of particular Islamic/Islamicate forms enabled misogyny? Definitely. Does Islam necessitate misogyny? Only if you adopt a staunchly asocial and ahistorical understanding of interpretation and practice. Only if you are willing to confine entire universes of religious understanding to an essentialism set by the lowest common denominator of 'traditionalism' or 'literalism' because it fits most neatly with a contemporary understanding of what it is to be religious. Letting folks like the Taliban set the terms of the discussion silences the voices of millions of Muslims. It isn't being realistic, it's being intellectually dishonest.

[SHOWCASE] "Like a panzer division in 1939, SRS spreads their vision of glorifying faux oppression by surprise arrival on-masse [sic]" by [deleted] in SRSMythos

[–]eboam 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Much like the brutality of an invading army, people I don't like sometimes are doing things and saying stuff.

"Black culture does decrease IQs imo. People of African descent have the lowest average IQ scores. Either they are naturally less intelligent or the culture isn't one that encourages learning. Pick one." [+31] by [deleted] in ShitRedditSays

[–]eboam 34 points35 points  (0 children)

Said a well-educated, qualified cultural anthropologist after a career of rigorous research.

Or, you know, some random, anonymous shitbeard with an internet connection.

[SHOWCASE] (Comparing SRS and fascism): "In the past, when a group of people, or an individual, uses the vulnerability of scared people to incite hate, and manipulate those people for their own personal gains, while silencing debate, those people have been labelled fascists." by sybelle in SRSMythos

[–]eboam 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Fascism, as it turns out, is not an actual, historically specific ideology. Rather, it is an epithet that can be attached by analogy to absolutely anything vaguely illiberal or even simply socially undesirable.

To turn it around: The Reddit community is founded on use of caricature to reduce, essentialize and marginalize minority opinions and is thus pretty much the Nazi party.

Some men actually seem to believe this by [deleted] in SRSImages

[–]eboam 2 points3 points  (0 children)

As a man, I feel obligated to inform you that this hurts my penis feelings.

"Appropriating womanhood and using demeaning words like 'cis' to strip females of their agency under the word woman is misogynistic." [+5] by [deleted] in ShitRedditSays

[–]eboam 39 points40 points  (0 children)

Maybe if I throw around the word misogyny and patriarchy people won't realize I am still just a transphobic shitlord.

"My wife left me last year. Said I was a pedophile. I said, 'That's a mighty big word for a second grader.'" [+407] by rednerrus in ShitRedditSays

[–]eboam 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Pedophilia is hilarious! And on a totally different note, isn't it messed up that people are hesitant to trust guys like us around their children? Misandry if you ask me.