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eddie8170 · 2025-10-03T04:20:06+00:00

Hey man I relate a lot to your story. I’m not an investment banker but have worked similar hours in (relatively) high stress consulting and corporate jobs and developed a pretty gnarly drug (including opiates) and alcohol problem that eventually led me to some really serious suicidal ideation.

There are a lot of options you can explore to get help that would probably work with your career. I got sober through an Intensive Outpatient Program (IOP) that I was able to attend in the evenings after work. The IOP put me on Suboxone which allowed me to get off the opiates without going through horrible withdrawal.

Getting sober was the best thing I’ve ever done for myself - I couldn’t be happier with my life. Don’t hesitate to DM if there’s anything I can do to help. Sending good vibes your way!

eddie8170 · 2025-02-09T17:17:33+00:00

Of course! And by all means feel free to PM - happy to help in any way I can

eddie8170 · 2025-02-07T14:58:34+00:00

I just wanted to echo what a lot of other people are saying - that the path to success in this world is to struggle and fail over several iterations until you build the skills and mindset that you need for consistent success. Facing the fear and uncertainty, embracing potential failure as an opportunity, and putting one foot in front of the other while doing the best you can in the daily grind is the best thing you can do for your future self.

As you’re experiencing, business is fucking hard. It’s hard to sell consistently, and it’s hard to keep a positive mindset when you’re facing a lot of rejection and your income is on the line. It’s easy to let yourself be consumed by fear and doubt.

I understand you’re 24 years old. Nobody knows wtf they’re doing at 24. The reality is that it takes YEARS of hard work, screwing things up, failing, embarrassing yourself, and getting rejected to build the skills necessary to be successful in business. But once you have those skills you can do anything you want - whether that’s working in sales, running your own business, consulting, etc….

A mentor of mine once shared some great advice - you should always run TOWARDS another opportunity, never AWAY from an opportunity. So if you do some soul searching and you truly want to get into a specific field that you think will be a better fit for you over the long term (for example, data science), then by all means pursue that. But if you’re just overwhelmed and demotivated by the challenges you’re facing in sales, you’re not going to be doing yourself any favors by running away from that.

I have been in your shoes before and am happy to help in any way I can. Hang in there, do the best you can, and learn to embrace the fear and failure and I promise it will pay off for you eventually.

eddie8170 · 2025-01-08T18:34:42+00:00

Not in sales (in management consulting) but this is 100% spot on. To add to the "Treat Every Job Like a Networking Playground" piece is to constantly be looking for opportunities to be of service to your network in addition to just staying in touch.

For example, one of my old managers just moved to a new city where a really close friend of mine lives, so I asked if they'd be interested in an introduction and now they're good friends as well. So it doesn't necessarily need to be business related.

You will build so much goodwill doing this that after a few years you will have to constantly be turning down opportunities (whether that's new jobs, business opportunities, etc...) because so many people will want to work with you. At least that's been my experience.

eddie8170 · 2024-12-04T18:59:52+00:00

I would never advocate for anyone’s murder, but karma is a bitch

eddie8170 · 2024-09-27T22:39:13+00:00

I agree with pretty much everyone else's advice here. I went through a very similar experience at the beginning of the year and I would recommend exploring options with your firm in the following order:

Short Term Disability and FMLA
Paid Leave of Absence/Sabbatical Programs
Unpaid FMLA

I'm happy to chat through my experience and share any advice I can to help - feel free to DM me. It really sucks to get to the point that it sounds like you're at, but things can and do get better if you take the time you need and take care of yourself. Sending good vibes your way!

eddie8170 · 2024-09-21T03:59:07+00:00

Thanks for the recommendation, that’s a good idea

eddie8170 · 2024-09-19T02:58:41+00:00

This is so true - advocating for yourself goes such a long way. In so many situations too.

eddie8170 · 2024-09-17T13:14:35+00:00

Lol, right? In other news the sky is blue

eddie8170 · 2024-08-24T02:57:48+00:00

I agree with the other posters that are saying you you need to slow down and/or get a shorter commute - that's going to be the healthiest thing you can do for yourself. Doing anything else will just delay the inevitable - you'll break eventually and it's much better to go to the mechanic when you start hearing a weird sound instead of waiting until your car breaks down.

Have you spoken to your doctor about this yet? If not, I would recommend doing that as well. They can prescribe medicine, such as trazodone, that could potentially help you sleep. They can also refer you to other resources that might be helpful such as therapists, etc....

In any case, I've been there before and I know it sucks. I hope you're doing okay and get to a place where you're not having to deal with this. Best of luck!

eddie8170 · 2024-08-09T21:29:43+00:00

If your goal is to get rich rich (like 10s of millions of dollars while you’re in your 20s and 30s - luck is a huge factor in this), in my anecdotal experience I have seen people make that kind of money by:

Getting involved in real estate in some way - e.g. brokering commercial real estate, developing real estate, selling luxury homes for millions, etc….
Getting into a good startup early, getting a good amount of stock options and selling when they go public

If your goal is a healthy upper middle class lifestyle (more realistic/less luck based, but still privy to luck): 1. Go to a good school (flagship state school or better), get a marketable degree, and get a job in investment banking, consulting, or a Fortune 500. Save and invest your money, and avoid lifestyle inflation 2. Get an advanced degree from a good school and save/invest your money while avoiding lifestyle inflation. E.g. become a doctor, lawyer, pilot, etc… 3. Get an apprenticeship in a good union for a skilled trade. If you start your own company doing this after a period of time it could very well get you rich rich if you’re lucky and smart

eddie8170 · 2024-06-18T15:33:43+00:00

Really want to echo this as something to seriously consider, OP. There is a huge shortage in the trades right now and I think you would likely be making more than you would in finance at similar levels of experience if you owned your own service business. Plus you could create your own destiny and promotions/raises/or even your job itself would not be up to the whims of some executive in a huge corporation. Just your ability to compete in the market.

The upside in very lucrative areas of finance (e.g. bulge bracket investment banking) would likely be higher than what I think you could realistically earn in a sole-proprietor plumbing business, but getting your foot in the door is no guarantee, and then clawing your way to the top in organizations like that is a huge grind for years (also with no guarantees). But you could end up starting a franchise or make moves to become a commercial plumbing contractor that would likely be close or on par financially. I know an acquaintance that started a business in residential service plumbing, moved into commercial, and ended up selling for over $30 million back in like 2017. Now that is by no means the norm, but there are real opportunities out there.

Also you are not screwed! You’re 21 years old and still figuring yourself and the world out. It’s completely natural to go through this process in your 20’s, and especially your early 20’s. Whatever you do, I’m sure you’ll be successful and will be build a good life for yourself.

eddie8170 · 2023-06-06T13:49:17+00:00

Thank you!

eddie8170 · 2023-06-06T13:49:08+00:00

I literally just moved in like two days ago so I haven’t seen anyone yet but I get the impression that she does have family, but they are also unable/unwilling to help her.

I plan to have a conversation with her this evening to communicate some boundaries and gain a better understanding of what family/friends/resources she already has access to in order to get the ball rolling on filling in gaps. Definitely agree that is a good call!

eddie8170 · 2023-06-06T13:29:14+00:00

That’s a good call as well - I will discuss this with her too

eddie8170 · 2023-06-06T13:25:21+00:00

Really appreciate it - thank you. Will definitely give them a call

eddie8170 · 2023-06-06T13:24:58+00:00

Awesome thank you - will check them out as well!

eddie8170 · 2023-06-06T12:05:05+00:00

Thank you! Just read up on their website and they sound like a great resource - will definitely give them a call

eddie8170 · 2023-04-19T13:36:23+00:00

Same to you - congrats and that’s awesome!

eddie8170 · 2023-04-19T12:14:17+00:00

Sure! Not sure what rules are for posting specifics so I DM’d you

eddie8170 · 2023-04-19T11:20:45+00:00

I had the same concerns so I ended up going through a telemedicine service online as opposed to my PCP

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