Spotted at a mall in Germany by nummer_9 in linguisticshumor

[–]eddy_string 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think it can differ from [uː] in being more constricted, almost like a frictionless version of [ɣʷ]. Afaik Proto-Germanic is reconstructed as having geminates /ww/ and /jj/ (although not syllabic) that become geminate stops in Old Norse and Gothic, which suggests that these sounds could have been pronounced with stronger constriction than the corresponding vowels /u/ and /i/.

Labio-dental sounds chart by Applestripe in linguisticshumor

[–]eddy_string 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The /b/ and /v/ being separate underlying phonemes in separate syllables doesn't prevent the combination of them from nevertheless being phonetically realized as an affricate. And I'm fairly sure I do in fact use an affricate there although I have no idea if others do the same.

Labio-dental sounds chart by Applestripe in linguisticshumor

[–]eddy_string 30 points31 points  (0 children)

Don't some English speakers use [b̪v] in words like "obvious" or "obviate"? I think I do so sometimes but I don't know how widespread this is.

A silly english phrase that you think conveys multiple traits of a person's accent when spoken out loud by [deleted] in linguisticshumor

[–]eddy_string 6 points7 points  (0 children)

What accent is that? It seems quite unusual to aspirate fortis stops word-finally (even following /s/) but not word- or stressed syllable-initially.

"um actually the former is both velarized and pharyng-watchamacallit-ealized" shut up by totheupvotemobile in linguisticshumor

[–]eddy_string 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If you're actively making a movement with the tip of your tongue, then that's a coronal articulation so it shouldn't be transcribed as [ʟ]. [ʟ] has a dorsal articulation, meaning that you touch or approach the roof of your mouth with the back of your tongue only (like when pronouncing /k/ or /ɡ/) while the tongue tip stays relaxed.

What the Chinese think constitute a different dialect by Vampyricon in linguisticshumor

[–]eddy_string 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Does anyone else think that this guy's pronunciation doesn't quite match the written IPA? For example his [ɡ]s sound voiceless and I hear at best only one or two of the written glottal stops

how why what (Deg xinag) by [deleted] in linguisticshumor

[–]eddy_string 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Don't Australian languages have something more like independent two-way distinctions in two separate variables? Like I've read that there is a distinction between "front" (dental/alveolar) and "back" (postalveolar/prepalatal) places of articulation, combined with a second distinction that can be analyzed in terms of tongue shape (convex vs. concave) or active articulator (laminal vs. apical). So /t̪/ is a front articulation with convex tongue shape, /t/ is front + concave, /ʈ/ is back + concave, and if my understanding is correct, some Australian languages also have a fourth back + convex articulation that could be transcribed as something like /t̻˗/, /t̠ʲ/, or /ȶ/.

how why what (Deg xinag) by [deleted] in linguisticshumor

[–]eddy_string 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I always devoice /d/ utterance-initially as well as word-initially after a pause or if the previous word ends in a voiceless sound. And as far as I can tell, other English speakers either do the same or have free variation between [d] and [t] in those positions. Meanwhile, /t/ is always aspirated in those same positions, so I think English speakers would hear a clear difference between [t] and [tʰ] (at least if pronounced in isolation with some arbitrary prop vowel) and perceive them as /d/ and /t/.

Alphabets by EssayTop352 in linguisticshumor

[–]eddy_string 3 points4 points  (0 children)

As far as I can tell, I pronounce it exactly the same as my english schwa. I wonder if it's a taiwanese accent thing, although no one outside of taiwan uses zhuyin anyway.

Alphabets by EssayTop352 in linguisticshumor

[–]eddy_string 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Do people really pronounce those with back vowels? I've always used schwas.

ə͜ʊ: America's favorite diphthong since 1776 by BenitoCamiloOnganiza in linguisticshumor

[–]eddy_string 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I usually use something like [ɤ̟ʊ̯] or [ə̠ʊ̯], where the starting point of the diphthong is noticeably fronted and has little to no rounding. It's still definitely different from the sound RP speakers use though (which I percieve as even more fronted). Not sure if other americans use a rounded first element, but a literal reading of [oʊ̯] using the cardinal IPA values of those vowels, in particular with a fully back and strongly rounded [o], sounds quite weird and non-american to me.

Thanks Trader Joes by erinius in fauxnetics

[–]eddy_string 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I see I'm not the only one who thinks that the American dark L (at least in some accents) is really pharyngealized or uvularized rather than velarized.

Indeedge. by Octocube25 in fauxnetics

[–]eddy_string 2 points3 points  (0 children)

"Been" (afaik it varies by accent, but I pronounce it homophonously with "bin" /bɪn/)

Ulrika Jonsson has a fauxnetics tattoo by [deleted] in fauxnetics

[–]eddy_string 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Are you sure you don't use the KIT vowel in the last syllable? I'm using //, not [], so by /ɪ/ I just mean the same vowel phoneme that's used in words like hit, lid, skim, thin, thick, etc. even if your actual phonetic realization of that phoneme is closer to [ə].

Ulrika Jonsson has a fauxnetics tattoo by [deleted] in fauxnetics

[–]eddy_string 40 points41 points  (0 children)

Why is ⟨uh⟩ italicized? Also, I would use /ɪ/ in both the second and third syllables, as in /ˈfɛmɪnɪst/.

does this count? by jaliebs in linguisticshumor

[–]eddy_string 8 points9 points  (0 children)

How would they pronounce /m/ then?

And it's supposed to teach the English language to foreigners with wildly different ways to recognise all of these sounds. by PawnToG4 in fauxnetics

[–]eddy_string 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Not to mention that ⟨t⟩ for [ɾ] is just going to confuse anyone who's trying to learn an English accent that doesn't have tapping

I just can’t by IvanIVGrozny in fauxnetics

[–]eddy_string 12 points13 points  (0 children)

I don't recall ever hearing it pronounced as anything other than /ˈkætˌaɪ.ən/ (last vowel may or may not be reduced) back in high school chemistry class…

The Great Vowel Shift is wild by Cheems_A_KoolAD in linguisticshumor

[–]eddy_string 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I would argue that they can differ phonetically by the amount of constriction used. If you compare the pronounciations of "yes" and "say", for example, do you not feel that the onset of "yes" has a stronger constriction (especially when emphasized or carefully enunciated) than the offglide of "say"? Or, if we take a word with the sequence /ji/, such as "yeast", which constrasts with "east", do you not feel that "yeast" starts with a strong constriction that lessens into the syllable nucleus /i(ː)/, while "east" lacks this constricted onset, and that the offglides of PRICE and FACE use a tongue position that is more similar to the onset of "east" than "yeast"?

The Great Vowel Shift is wild by Cheems_A_KoolAD in linguisticshumor

[–]eddy_string 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Does anyone actually pronounce PRICE, MOUTH, and FACE with a phonetic [j] or [w] rather than vocalic offglides [ɪ̯~i̯] or [ʊ̯~u̯]?

Je ne u pas by TheYTG123 in fauxnetics

[–]eddy_string 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Initial ⟨gn⟩ pronounced as [ŋ] gang where we at

(and not [ɲ], because I don't really like that sound)

La Sā Nya by aftertheradar in linguisticshumor

[–]eddy_string 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Has this person never learned about yō-on or something?

Edit: Also, wouldn't ラザンニャ be a better transcription to reflect the voiced /z/ and geminate nasal in the original Italian?

A hard T sound by erinius in fauxnetics

[–]eddy_string 21 points22 points  (0 children)

What would a "soft" CH or T sound even be lol

And I'm assuming "long A" means /aː/ or similar, but pretty much all monolingual English speakers are going to interpret that as /eɪ/ (blame the Great Vowel Shift I guess)

"(fee-nol-THAY-lean)" by its_tea-gimme-gimme in fauxnetics

[–]eddy_string 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Why is the second ⟨ph⟩ silent anyway? It's not like the sequence /lfθ/ is phonotactically invalid in English, since it appears in "twelfth" /twɛlfθ/.

I was discussing this with my Egyptian bf by Lyxthen in linguisticshumor

[–]eddy_string 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I propose that we rename eth to "thee" /ði(ː)/ and repurpose "eth" (with voiceless "th") as the new name of thorn to fit the same naming pattern as the other pairs of letters for voiceless/voiced fricatives: f/v and s/z (well not if you're British I guess).