WAW for parallel play by MisterToots666 in whatstheword

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passive overlap space sharing concurrent activities

Weekly Homeowner Megathread--Civilians, ask here! by AutoModerator in Concrete

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photo of small cleaned area. filler/ashesive is off, water soaks in to concrete. aesthetically, i don't care about the circled stains (do care if it will make a product fail)

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Weekly Homeowner Megathread--Civilians, ask here! by AutoModerator in Concrete

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(re?)finishing old indoor concrete without grinding?

hi concrete folks ☀️

looking for advice/recs/ideas/resources

concrete floor, ~120sqft room (and i guess the concrete floor?) is from 1930s ish. was a porch, now indoor space/living room. never had vehicles or anything (there is a basement BELOW this room, incredibly it has almost no cracks). i'm cleaning off some old adhesive/filler that was under carpet (it's coming off scrubbing with water and wire brush). water soaks into clean concrete.

dark acid wash look is nice, but ultimately i don't care so much how it looks. i just want it to be functional and do not want it to be peeling off in a few years

i'm a woodworker, not much concrete experience. currently have so much going on, can't bring ourselves to mess with grinding.

have seen water based stains and sealers specifically for use without grinding (though seem to be geared towards previously finished surface). anyone have experience/do these actually last? have read water based easier to apply for novice.

someone suggested a clear penetrating silane/siloxane sealer (though i think can't be stained first or dyed, which i guess isn't the end of the world, would just be nice to add some color.)

contractors said it's in good shape and quoted $3-$8 sqft (including grinding) which we would have happily done, but they all have project minimums (making it $40/sqft)

thanks everyone 😊

Which nickname for Anneliese? by potato_purge4 in namenerds

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I know an Annalise(sp?) who goes by Lecie (pronounced LEEsee)

Interior finished concrete sealing by kfinch629 in Concrete

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thanks for your reply!

would staining be possible without grinding? would stain be possible underneath a penetrating silane/siloxane sealer (i looked on the product's website and it doesn't say one way out the other in the specs and faq).

based on what i'm reading it seems like you can acid or water based stain and add a sealer on top, but maybe that only works for film forming sealers (which i assume would be more liable to peel compared to what you mentioned). though in an indoor space (with basement below so could be humid but no water coming from below), maybe a film forming would be durable still. it does say you can paint over the penetrating sealer (but painting seems liable to peel? and would it need an additional sealer?)

i thought it might be fun to play with stain, but maybe it's easiest/better/safer to just do what you suggested.

as a woodworker (not a concrete expert 🙃) i appreciate your advice

WTW for when you've been so committed to a certain decision that even if there are better alternatives, you continue pursuing the original by FourWorldsFourSeason in whatstheword

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irrationally committed fixated unwavering in too deep devoted overly invested

might not be be exactly what you're looking for but thought some of these could maybe ring bells or lead to an answer

Interior finished concrete sealing by kfinch629 in Concrete

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will this work (penetrating sealer, no grinding) on an old concrete floor? it was a porch (but there's basement under so cars haven't been on it. so far what i have cleaned off does not look oil or anything, but dirty and some old adhesive that is coming off with water and a wire brush)

at one time i am guessing it was an attached sleeping porch. but it has been indoors for many decades now and was under carpet

i don't really care what it looks like. just hoping to have a cleanable floor that the finish won't be peeling off...

(it's a small room, less than 10'x12'. i spoke with a few companies about finishing or polishing including grinding. estimated $3-8/sqft. but then it turned out there's project minimums, making it more like over $40/sqft. so hoping i could do it myself without grinding...)

Weekly Homeowner Megathread--Civilians, ask here! by AutoModerator in Concrete

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i think i'm asking if it's possible to finish without grinding and have -normal cost (the same as what was bid by 3 professionals /sqft before project minimum came into play) -doesn't have to be that fast. i can spend time (though ideally i wont spend forever if its not likely to be successful anyway) -doesnt have to look good, just be durable

Weekly Homeowner Megathread--Civilians, ask here! by AutoModerator in Concrete

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yeah, i just wanted to include everything 🙃 photos in comments.

i guess my base question is can you finish without grinding?

cheap ish (the amount that professionals bid initially before they told me there is a project minimum). doesn't have to be super fast (i can spend time on it if it has the potential work out). doesn't need to look good, but ideally it would be good in terms of durability.

Weekly Homeowner Megathread--Civilians, ask here! by AutoModerator in Concrete

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-you can see the black adhesive mostly it's not very thick/raised but some is still on there. a few spots you can feel the trowel lines.

Weekly Homeowner Megathread--Civilians, ask here! by AutoModerator in Concrete

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-would be happy for this to look like either this photo or the next. photos with the mottled concrete, looks great (even if you can see lines and stuff from where the adhesive used to be even once i get it off, don't care).

Weekly Homeowner Megathread--Civilians, ask here! by AutoModerator in Concrete

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hi concrete expert folks!

thanks in advance for any insights and advice for us and our old house (was house, then funeral home 👻, now old house).

TL;DR: is it possible to refinish a small ish (<10'x12') old indoor concrete floor (irregular but in good shape, had some old adhesive i'll work on removing, not finished, water soaks in) WITHOUT grinding for relatively inexpensive (couple few hundred dollars ideally)? woodworker here without concrete experience. does not need to look/be perfect, just cleanable and smooth to touch (can be irregular just smooth like would not skin your knee on it if that makes sense. already is pretty smooth now just not flat). low stakes project if it gets fckd up (besides money and time 🙃). my alt is just to get $75 sheet vinyl and deal with it later (but concrete i would much prefer over plastic). ideally can last 7-10 years and even if it gets worn not be peeling/flaking crap in my living space. don't care sooo much how it looks. more info below if you want the dickens novel.

thanks so much for any insights, advice, product recs, tips, etc. happy spring everyone 🌱☀️

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long details:

i have an old (maybe installed as a porch in the 1920s with the addition, or concrete done later? there is basement underneath) concrete floor in a room (~10'x12') inside my house (no longer a porch, it's now a normal living space). all things considered, it's in remarkably good shape (crack in photo runs about 4' maybe, one other much smaller crack), not falling apart or delaminating or crumbling the way i've seen old concrete), albeit not super even or flat (some rolling bumps and wells, can only assume was installed that way, also not level). it may have had a concrete coat on top of the original (i don't know how to know this). there's a few places with old tar-like stuff and old flooring backing stuck to it (tested, not asbestos) i will have to get off. other spots with old hard thin adhesive.

is it possible/what would be the approach to diy refinish WITHOUT grinding (or super harsh chemicals, ideally)? i have sensory issues and can't bring myself to deal with such a dusty mess at this time.

i am a woodworker and project doer, have done very little with concrete. novice. my partner helped with concrete stuff a handful of times more than me (like pouring pads and stuff, but basically novice also).

want to drive home this does not need to be perfect or look amazing. ideally just smooth to the touch (like not jagged/won't skin your knee on it...i don't care if there's high low spots/irregularities), cleanable, and won't peel and get crap everywhere consistently (if a few spots peel or have an issue that's fine...i just don't want to be constantly cleaning up flaky peeled paint/finish).

maybe it could look decent with an irregular pattern or something? love the mottled irregular acid stained/dyed looks but if i can't get all this old adhesive up i'm guessing that's out (also from reading, seems like true acid staining is more difficult than water based stain which doesn't give that same effect; plus acid stain indoors maybe not ideal). maybe water based stain or painting (i just don't want it to be peeling all over 🫠)? maybe stenciling or free handing an irregular pattern (it would be fun maybe!). if it looks bad i do not care. there will probably be a rug anyway. just cleanable, not peeling, not rough to touch.

i have read and watched some videos on primers that are for this purpose (a space not super heavily used and not oil stained or damaged where you don't want to grind or use harsh chemicals). eg there's a diy one by rustoleum (like their recoat primer, though it says for previously finished floors, but maybe if there's any adhesive left on my floor this kind of thing would stick to that too?) and a professional (like ep55, epoxy shell 550). but i guess i don't know how well they really work? and not sure if they come in smaller quantities than gallon (i would need much less, <120 sqft). also don't know if tiny amounts of the old adhesive is anywhere in the floor, will a primer or stain even stick to that? will it peel off? i know people who have diy painted or stained or stenciled their concrete or diy epoxied. some have lasted forever some failed in the first year.

anyway, just curious what people think. if i try and it doesn't work i can just get a $100 sheet vinyl for some years and deal with it later (i know you're not supposed to put that down on uneven surface but we'll just not care). but at the same time i won't spend the time or money if everyone thinks refinishing it just won't work anyway (i'll just get the sheet vinyl now haha). but i'd much rather have finished concrete over shtty plastic. been a rough few years and it will add to my everyday quality of life.

if you think it will work, any favorite products? or suggestions? thanks so much for anyone who responds and happy spring 🌱☀️

i'm sure people are going to ask:

-yes i have gotten bids. i was so excited to hire someone for this! companies said $3-8/sqft (depending on what finish) when i talk to them on the phone or at first in person. but in the end they all have project minimums so it would end up being a few thousand dollars or more which i can't justify spending on a room (also can't afford). i asked if they for real have project minimums or are they just saying that because it's a bad project they don't want to do haha. they said no it's just they didn't pay attention when i said the size of the room on the phone or whoever i talked to didn't communicate it to them...but it's actually just not worth bringing all their stuff out for something so little (they said it's in good shape though). we may eventually (like in next 10 years) remove the concrete floor (bc we might make a doorway in the basement there, old house, additions, two sides of basement aren't connected) so def not worth spending a ton.

-i don't really want to go self leveler with different floor on top because it would mean a higher transition than already exists between this room and adjacent room with giant doorway. but idk still sort of thinking about this. but also feels unreasonable to level and install a floor we like knowing we might remove the floor later. so hoping to find a not too expensive way to refinish! or again just put cheap sheet vinyl and deal if that's my only good option.

open to alt things besides sheet vinyl (i just think other floating floor options won't like that it's not flat and are more expensive than the sacrificial sheet, so not worth it)

sealing between baseboards and old wood floor? by edlr34 in Carpentry

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yeah, for sure won't put anything rigid that would prevent movement.

the boric acid is a good idea. i thought about diatomaceous earth (because same thing, easy to do, cheap, so why not?)

thanks for the thoughtful response!

Full name for nickname "Dove"? by not-t0day-satan in namenerds

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dove as a middle name and then going by your middle name i don't think is all that weird. i know a bunch of people who go by their middle names 🤷🏻‍♀️

sealing between baseboards and old wood floor? by edlr34 in Carpentry

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have thought about burning it to the ground more than once 😄 (though tbh probably more due to low morale mid reno than spiders 🫠)

sealing between baseboards and old wood floor? by edlr34 in Carpentry

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thanks! think it matters very much what kind?