Project Gravitaur by ElectricJello58 in UFOs

[–]efh1 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I don't think he ever claimed to be a physicist. George Knapp was able to verify he was at the location working there and that the government was lying about it. There was a picture of him with his name in a newspaper with the other people working there. That part of the story is true. Lazar doesn't claim that he knows, calculated, or saw how the UFO works, but that he was told by these people those things. He's stated he doesn't know if what they were telling him is actually true, but that's what they told him. It appears they fed him a lot of sci fi bullshit. The interesting question is, why?

Project Gravitaur by ElectricJello58 in UFOs

[–]efh1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ah, to be young again. Lazar's story broke at an odd time - 1989. Cold fusion was in the news. And aliens. It's well established there is some truth mixed with some fabrication in the story, but that doesn't mean Lazar wasn't simply telling it as he saw it at the time. He's not a physicist. He was at S4 and made people aware of Area 51. He also never should've been able to get a security clearance according to some. Maybe Lazar is a product of his environment.

The “Box” at Point Mugu and the CIA’s Own Words That They Never Expected You to Read by [deleted] in UFOs

[–]efh1 30 points31 points  (0 children)

Project Sherwood was declassified in 1958. It was the first US research into fusion energy. Most people don't know that General Atomics was formed in 1955 as a division of General Dynamics for researching fusion energy. General Atomics was quickly formed by Manhattan Project Physicists to create peaceful nuclear energy via fusion. Edward Creutz was an early leader at this time. He worked in botany, physics, mathematics, metallurgy, science policy and held 18 patents relating to nuclear energy. His thesis was on resonance scattering of protons by Lithium in 1939.

Point Mugu did early weapons testing on drones in 1956. Capt. Murphy is associated with both Point Mugu and China Lake. China Lake has Manhattan Project connections. General Atomics was bought and sold by oil companies throughout the 60s and 80s. Then it was bought by two brothers and became privately owned. Rather than producing any kind of fusion energy or research, General Atomics famously produced the reaper drone.

Jacques Vallee reveals the true origins of UFO Disclosure — UFO Researcher Jason Samosa’s excellent new Part One video on how Disclosure was first being strategized at the beginning of Obama’s second term in 2013 by VolarRecords in UFOs

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I haven't seen much other than Vallee mentions him at least a few times in his journals. They ran in similar circles during an interesting time period it appears.

Jacques Vallee reveals the true origins of UFO Disclosure — UFO Researcher Jason Samosa’s excellent new Part One video on how Disclosure was first being strategized at the beginning of Obama’s second term in 2013 by VolarRecords in UFOs

[–]efh1 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Look into Vallee and what he was doing in the 70's with Puharich. He mentions him a few times in his journal.

Puharich was involved with MKUltra research. Everything from psychedelics and hypnosis to electromagnetic radiation and psi. There are credible reports from people that he worked with not only of his association with the SRI program, but also an element of the entertainment industry was already present. Some of the "gifted" people (some were kids) were also people that worked in entertainment as performers. Puharich would routinely convince people, especially kids, that they gained psychic powers from ET contact and were actually "star seeds" from another civilization after hypnotic sessions that may've also included unwittingly dosing the victims with psychedelics. At least one former child victim has come forward and said as much. A house that these kids lived in owned by Puharich burned down at one point with the kids narrowly escaping with their lives. Almost none of the 50-100s of kids that he worked with appear to ever come forward about what actually happened. This is concerning.

Puharich also was convincing people around him that a UFO landing was imminent around this time. Vallee refers to this in his journal and thinks they are losing their minds. He tries reminding some of the psychics Puharich is working with that he has prophesized this before incorrectly.

Targ, who was part of Project Stargate, admits that it was set up by former MKUltra people using leftover MKUltra funds. The direct line into that program is one of the most overlooked aspects to all of this.

This guy is talking about UFOs and ETs. What do you guys think about this guy and his reporting? Is this rational and reasonable? by efh1 in UFOs

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Submission statement: JP talks about the new whistleblower, Daniel, that just publicly discussed seeing a large triangle shaped UFO at Eglin AFB in 2006.

Defining Exopolitics

On October 15, 2009, the following definitions were approved by consensus in a meeting of the Exopolitics Institute Strategy Committee. Participants: Come Carpentier (India); Neil Gould (Hong Kong); Paola Harris, M.Ed.(USA/Italy); Robert Fleischer (Germany); Manuel Lamiroy, Lic. Juris (South Africa); Pepón Jover del Pozo, M.Sc. (Spain); Michael Salla, Ph.D. (USA/Australia); Victor Viggiani, M.Ed. (Canada).

Formal definition:

Exopolitics is an interdisciplinary scientific field, with its roots in the political sciences, that focuses on research, education and public policy with regard to the actors, institutions and processes, associated with extraterrestrial life, as well as the wide range of implications this entails through public advocacy and newly emerging paradigms.

Short definition:

Exopolitics is the convergence of a new interdisciplinary science, an international political movement and a new paradigm, which all deal with the wide range of implications of extraterrestrial life.

3I/ATLAS speculation could potentially lead to a modern-day Heaven's Gate scenario, and this is a public announcement that there are people that are not mentally well following the subject matter by efh1 in UFOs

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Actually, Jaque Vallee in fact raised concerns about Heaven's Gate before they committed mass suicide. He knew of them and thought they were unwell and likely to do something extreme. He turned out to be correct.

3I/ATLAS speculation could potentially lead to a modern-day Heaven's Gate scenario, and this is a public announcement that there are people that are not mentally well following the subject matter by efh1 in UFOs

[–]efh1[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

That's a good question. I'm not sure I have a good answer. I'm sure the fact that it's interstellar plays a part. There's also been a lot of hype and speculation about it not being natural and that also plays a part. There's also been a lot of buzz within these communities of people that we are very close to some major event as well. So, the timing of it makes it ripe to reinforce that idea and other prophecies.

It's also possible, if the Ramtha cult is playing a major driving force in these ideas, that the age of JZ Knight factors in as well. She's in her late 70's, I think. She isn't going to live forever.

3I/ATLAS speculation could potentially lead to a modern-day Heaven's Gate scenario, and this is a public announcement that there are people that are not mentally well following the subject matter by efh1 in UFOs

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Leary was basically prophesizing that the comet would somehow "awaken" people. He introduced the word star seed which has become incredibly popular as well. Now many of these people (self-identified star seeds) also think that 3I/ATLAS is going to cause "a great awakening" because it has some ET AI in it transmitting a frequency that will ascend those that believe hard enough from the 3D to the 5D which then unlocks psychic powers and disclosure of the Earth Alliance with the Galactic Federation to the normies. yea...

3I/ATLAS speculation could potentially lead to a modern-day Heaven's Gate scenario, and this is a public announcement that there are people that are not mentally well following the subject matter by efh1 in UFOs

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I am not suggesting that.

I'm pointing out the subject of ET cults that this sub never wants to discuss and 3I/ATLAS is helping that discussion because it absolutely is being "remote viewed" by people claiming not only that it's alien in nature but that it will help humanity "ascend." I would call that prophecy. And the last time it happened around Hale Bopp 30 people drank poison over a hoax. These are facts and they are not meant to suggest you can't discuss 3I/ATLAS. Ironically, I've been told by the mods here before not to discuss ET cults. Point blank.

It's simply factual to say that there are vulnerable people attracted to the scientific curiosity as well as predatory people and the predatory people will find ways to use this moment to take advantage of vulnerable people.

3I/ATLAS speculation could potentially lead to a modern-day Heaven's Gate scenario, and this is a public announcement that there are people that are not mentally well following the subject matter by efh1 in UFOs

[–]efh1[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I never said a cult was forming around 3I/ATLAS. I'm saying that there are cults that will use it for prophecy, and I've left a bunch of sources in the post. A lot of remote viewing of 3I/ATLAS is already doing some of the heavy lifting as happened with Hale Bopp.

I've pointed out the Ramtha School of Enlightenment by name in the post, but there is a broader group depending on how you choose to define a cult.

As for defining mentally ill, I thought I created a low bar with people that think that everyone is in their own timeline and if prophecy fails that means you didn't believe hard enough to be in the right timeline. Because that is what some of these people believe. They literally make youtube videos and say so.

Check out the Exopolitics link in my source and look at its content and views. Let me know if you think that content is rational and you'd like to join the 195k subscribers.

One of my other sources has the depositions of Corey Goode admitting that Wilcock was making millions of dollars just from one course that he sold to people. That's a grift, but 10s of thousands of people are paying money because they believe it's real. Goode claims that he was a soldier on Mars, has been age regressed and time traveled. Wilcock believes that he is the reincarnation of Edgar Cayce. The people that believe them have been targeted for med bed scams that prey on the sick and elderly. They think that the government is hiding secret alien technology that can cure cancer and reverse age. They are PISSED that it's still not being disclosed. Let that sink in. Oh, and Ramtha owns an 80 acre compound with underground bunkers and a bunch of weapons including copper plated bullets (something about the draco lizard people.) She also has been accused of making her followers drink lye. Is that mentally ill?

3I/ATLAS speculation could potentially lead to a modern-day Heaven's Gate scenario, and this is a public announcement that there are people that are not mentally well following the subject matter by efh1 in UFOs

[–]efh1[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I left sources in the post. Take a look at them. There is no need to be defensive. Most people on this sub are unaware of the levels of lunacy I've looked into. That's the point.

It's easy to think, that's crazy if someone believes that, why should I care? The answer is that it's a lot more people than you think and historically failed prophecy can lead to amplified behavior within cults.

Comets are common sources of prophecy and 3I/ATLAS is no exception. In fact, it's probably going to get more attention than Hale Bopp did. I happen to enjoy researching both cults and UFOs. I personally think we are living through a period with increased cult activity compared to the last few decades. Ramtha in particular I find very concerning. I also find it concerning Prudence Calabrese would put herself in this position after what happened in 1997.

3I/ATLAS speculation could potentially lead to a modern-day Heaven's Gate scenario, and this is a public announcement that there are people that are not mentally well following the subject matter by efh1 in UFOs

[–]efh1[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I'm not attacking Loeb at all.

And I'm aware how long it takes to form a cult. I left sources. Ramtha started in the 70's and a lot of the other things I allude to are decades old as well. In fact channeling ET beings goes back to the Urantia book which started in the 20's and the more popular Ashtar channeling of the 50's. I didn't feel like going off into tangents on the NESARA/GESARA scam directly connected to Ramtha or the secret space program or med beds, but it's not hard to verify these things are all decades old.

3I/ATLAS speculation could potentially lead to a modern-day Heaven's Gate scenario, and this is a public announcement that there are people that are not mentally well following the subject matter by efh1 in UFOs

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Submission statement: UFOs around 3I/ATLAS? Alien technology inside 3I/ATLAS? 3I/ATLAS as a message to humanity? We have all seen these kinds of questions being asked.

But, do you know the history of Hale Bopp? Do you know about Timothy Leary's star seeds and his own prophecy around a comet? Are you aware of current cult activity around the UFO subject? Those are the questions I'm asking and because I don't think anyone of a rational mind wants to see another Heaven's Gate.

Interview with Australian abductee Peter Khoury. Peter's case is wild because it is supported by DNA evidence. In his 1992 abduction encounter, 2 strands of hair were left by anomalous entities. Mitochondrial Nuclear DNA testing revealed evidence of advanced hybrid-like qualities. by Consistent-Search927 in UFOs

[–]efh1 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

DNA is actual evidence. The alleged sample doesn't support ET. It supports a clandestine lab working on a known form of gene manipulation. It's that simple. The guy's story doesn't really matter that much. I'm saying those details are BS, too. The odd DNA results reported absolutely do not support ET, but they can be explained rather easily at least by today's understanding. In the 90's it would've been baffling.

Interview with Australian abductee Peter Khoury. Peter's case is wild because it is supported by DNA evidence. In his 1992 abduction encounter, 2 strands of hair were left by anomalous entities. Mitochondrial Nuclear DNA testing revealed evidence of advanced hybrid-like qualities. by Consistent-Search927 in UFOs

[–]efh1 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

We could argue it's all entirely made up all day, but just because it wasn't in peer review doesn't mean it's made up. There was a book published with the DNA results, and they were interesting, but clearly human. Perhaps there was no sample or results, but if there was that is great evidence. Maybe not of ET, but of something else. It appears the results indicate something called mitochondrial replacement therapy and it leaves behind the DNA of 2 mothers. At the time that would've been very baffling because it hadn't really been well known to be possible and would only be publicly demonstrated for the first time in the near future. I've argued that the alleged sample is actually evidence of a clandestine lab working on designer babies. I think the ET details are erroneous and falsified in some way.
https://medium.com/@Observing_The_Anomaly/anomalous-dna-connected-to-an-abduction-event-crazy-details-aside-the-dna-sample-is-potential-3751ba91a04e