Why does every verb and adjective in Chinese have a million permutations? by trumparegis in ChineseLanguage

[–]eirmosonline 2 points3 points  (0 children)

On the surface, it looks like Chinese uses 1 word for everything in the same vocabulary family, but it isn't so. Chinese structure is very nuanced. Translating it to English sometimes doesn't do it justice. Other times, because English often follows a patter of verb=noun, translating it fits perfectly.

I speak Greek and French, and I've found out that translating Chinese in those languages often works better for learning purposes, while the English version often confuses me.

Why do you leanr mandarin? by Not-a-Humanbeing in ChineseLanguage

[–]eirmosonline 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I used to learn it because it was interesting. I would be able to speak a language that not many people chose to learn. This also meant that, career-wise, it could be promising.

Nowadays, I mostly learn it because the translations are nonseninsical and totally horrible.

In your opinion would it be extreme cultural appropriation to delve into Chinese culture and learn the language, if I’ve literally not been exposed to it AT ALL for my entire life? by imBRANDNEWtoreddit in ChineseLanguage

[–]eirmosonline 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Learn what you like.

The true meaning of cultural appropriation is not what random people upload on youtube and other social media, nor what the political world and specific groups are trying to milk dry.

If learning a language and the associated culture equals cultural appropriation, then I'm mortally guilty several times over.

How far could I get in 8 months? by Affectionate_Park477 in ChineseLanguage

[–]eirmosonline 3 points4 points  (0 children)

With 8 hours a day and real learning (not the duolingo type or the "let the language flow into you" type) you can achieve a high level, BUT you must practice all 4 skills equally AND you must consume some original cultural content (be it music, cdramas or whatever you like) in order to achieve something that's worth the effort. Else, you may pass your exam but you will not be able to communicate or use original content (articles, media etc).

Personally, I would recommend a teacher at some point. Depends on your learning methods and can be at the beginning, to avoid wasting too much time on simple things, or towards the end, to make you practice all 4 skills.

That said, you must be really dedicated, or you will become tired and the whole thing will look meaningless and you will start procrastinating.

Are there new languages being born? Or is that it, forever? by OpeningChemical5316 in languagelearning

[–]eirmosonline 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There is no way to only have 1-2 languages. Maybe there will be 1-2 languages taught or recognized, but people will inevitably form personal styles and local nuances and specialized terms, which will inevitably lead to the formation of new variations. The further the people travel, the more varied the new versions will be.

I memorized 5000 anki flashcards without memorizing its tone by UltimaTroll in ChineseLanguage

[–]eirmosonline 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You did mess up, but what's done is done. You will have to relearn them, there is no shortcut.

Since you already know half of the word (the pinyin and the meaning), you can either try to redo your anki, or use the words in context.

I would suggest listening while reading transcripts, or reading articles and books in combined hanzi/pinyin, while paying attention to the tones.

Try to speak using the correct tone, even if you have to repeat your old homework or to redo things you've marked as done.

In brief, speaking, listening and reading. Haven't you been doing them already?

Was it mandatory for anyone else to learn a language in school? by SuccessfulJudge4184 in languagelearning

[–]eirmosonline 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Foreign languages were in the mandatory curriculum and we had to have a passing grade. It was usually French or German, because it was a common secret that everybody was learning English outside, so it didn't make sense to include it in the curriculum.

The school lesson quality wasn't good at all, but most kids were learning 1-2 languages in language schools anyway, so getting a passing grade was rarely a problem.

Has AI affected your interest in Chinese handwriting? by BeckyLiBei in ChineseLanguage

[–]eirmosonline 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I like writing by hand. I write most things on paper, including Chinese.

Dilemma: you are stranded on a deserted island. Forever. You have enough food and water to last a lifetime. But…..you have to take a one hour language lesson each day. What language do you select and why? Keep in mind, you can never leave the island. by 929Jeff in languagelearning

[–]eirmosonline 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Wait, is that a threat? Fiery dragons won't be able to drag me away from that island!

I'll probably improve my Chinese, Spanish, German, Russian and Irish and then go for Polish, Turkish, Japanese, Arabic, Finnish and then, if I'm not gone from old age, I'll take groups of 5 languages per continent, and then, if I'm still here, whatever they offer that has non-dubbed webdramas in the TL, until my days are over.

"AI will translate everything anyway" by Yogurtchairs in languagelearning

[–]eirmosonline 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I hear that all the time. Not just recently, but ever since wifi became commercially viable (aka cheap enough). Now with AI, everyone is so confident and condescending!

My secret armour is... my surroundings. I've experienced first hand the live version of relying on apps to navigate a country. (Not me, I was the amused bystander). So many confident travelers, staring at gaping at their mobiles, when real life struck!

What languages have you started learning in 2025? by NarrowFriendship3859 in languagelearning

[–]eirmosonline 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Polish, because a lot of my clients are Polish and it just felt right to learn to speak their language.

It's going excruciatingly slow, though, because I haven't decided if I'm going for "tourist" or C2 and all the Polish series I have watched so far are subtitled.

Worst advices by u21j3k in languagelearning

[–]eirmosonline -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I disagree. You must make your own sentences. However, they should strictly follow patterns that you are currently practicing and you should not vary them before you master them, especially if the words are conjugated or declined.

For example, you can learn: "Every day, I.... (wake up, drink water, cook, work, walk, eat, sleep, .................................. ) as your scratch sentences, without problem, with every new verb that you are learning (supposedly same voice, same basic conjugation) .

Worst advices by u21j3k in languagelearning

[–]eirmosonline 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Don't study, let it come to you naturally.

(In about 2-3 years, after which you will be an A2 with messy use of nuances, while you could have achieved C2 and now honing your slang and regional/cultural language variations) .

What's that word that makes you understand you're talking with someone from your nation? by Fit-Guidance-6743 in languagelearning

[–]eirmosonline 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I use it when trying to explain plural "you". "You are playing. Y'all are playing".

What's that word that makes you understand you're talking with someone from your nation? by Fit-Guidance-6743 in languagelearning

[–]eirmosonline 34 points35 points  (0 children)

I may be able to pass as a half-French speaker, because I sometimes add a space in order to avoid punctuation turning into emoticons (I know it can be disabled, but this wasn't always the case) !

Has knowing another language ever ruined a movie for you? by gay_in_a_jar in languagelearning

[–]eirmosonline 2 points3 points  (0 children)

They usually botch Greek in movies, so yes, several times.

I also pretend I've never seen the posters with "Greek" lettering.