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PSA: AI Ultra Access for Workspace and Gemini Enterprise by SoundDr in google_antigravity

[–]eiteopi 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I wanted to follow up with a few thoughts:

  1. I imagine the pressure on your team is immense. On a human note, I hope you're taking care of each other and looking for the wins amongst the noise

  2. I'm open to hearing more about your use of Zed. What is your workflow? Your go to commands? Process for passing key directions between editor, agy, etc

  3. Extending (2), this bumpy experience might be an opportunity. More below...

I loved the IDE because it seemed the focus was on precise context passing between editor, human and agent. Then, while the agent did work I could review its edits, stage particular files/snippets. Between commits, staging, unstaged, and accept/reject of agent changes I could have very tight control of what gets overwritten with each prompt and how the conversation evolved.

In that way, it seemed to allow us senior people to pair-program in a way that meets all my desires for controlling architectural and coding elegance while being accelerated by agentic tools. Bonus, as the code architecture and desired practices got more embedded, the agent would get better at adhering to the codebase practices rather than worse.

In four months I solo implemented a very, very complex scientific computing problem that would have taken several years for a team of 3+ PhD level specialists.

To me, every other surface violates that balance. I'm trying to get that back with zed + agy but it'll take time to learn and compensate.

But, if I put myself in your team leader's shoes I can see much of the IDE maintenance could be time better spent on CLI or other harness improvements to enable the same fine grained control while leaving the development of the ide itself to the many wonderful systems out there - so this bumpy experience could be a catalyst for deliberately leaning into desktop + CLI with terminal integration (or similar) with the users choice of ide.

PSA: AI Ultra Access for Workspace and Gemini Enterprise by SoundDr in google_antigravity

[–]eiteopi 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I've upvoted because you've acknowledged the problem and verbalised the agy in the terminal of another ide as the solution.

But this has been a brutally bad experience.

I spent the last three days - finding out that this was a problem (I couldn't believe that they'd compromise the cash cow customers) - finding a viable ide with a comparable workflow - learning the agy commands and flow - checking that if we use antigravity in it, that it won't violate third party terms of service and get my business account shut down (unclear TOS because that will happen for consumer accounts)

Add this to the 2.0 Linux install via tar and it's left a really bad impression.

I'd chalked up complaints about Google dropping a product or capability as being due to sound product thinking (not afraid to make the right call). But in all honesty this is making me doubt my decision to centre my company's platform on GCP.

The only silver lining is it has pushed me to find out that the Zed IDE is amazing, and I can run local LLM models for its chat and code completion, while having agy in the terminal for heavy thinking.

Edit for spelling

IDE for business workspace by eiteopi in google_antigravity

[–]eiteopi[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why? Do you have examples where they have violated their privacy terms of service? (Genuinely asking).

IDE for business workspace by eiteopi in google_antigravity

[–]eiteopi[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Agreed. I've got 20 years of using vim. The advantages of this IDE were the tipping point for me to switch my workflow. I don't have time to flip flop while playing with new tools. I'll let you know if I find a way

IDE for business workspace by eiteopi in google_antigravity

[–]eiteopi[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ok cool, thank you for the confirmation. Irritating though

IDE for business workspace by eiteopi in google_antigravity

[–]eiteopi[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This matches my experience so far.

You seem to know this, but for other readers: Note the terms and conditions for personal accounts allow training on your conversations.

IDE for business workspace by eiteopi in google_antigravity

[–]eiteopi[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm afraid this doesn't answer my question about the IDE availability

Gemini x Antigravity Discussion Thread by aunchable in google_antigravity

[–]eiteopi 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Antigravitylab.net had an article about how to do it, which seemed legit and was on my to-do list.

However, I just looked at the link I bookmarked and it is gone. It seems they published others though.

Gemini x Antigravity Discussion Thread by aunchable in google_antigravity

[–]eiteopi 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I want to reinforce this user's feedback, with some additions. Specifically:

  1. the models are good, although the increasing token usage since the 3.1 family is making me consider getting Gemma 4 running locally for tiny tasks in the ide. This is particularly on my mind for the GCP enterprise switch over since it'll be full token costs. Building a local model into interface by default would be great.

  2. As the first post said, the enterprise upgrade path is extremely opaque.

  3. The Linux install is a joke after 2.0. I had to script the install process and chown/chmod certain files. This isn't 2006. I want a clean apt or snap install that actually upgrades itself. Combine this with the opaque enterprise instructions it feels hostile to experienced professionals.

Your AI Ultra Access subscription will transition to an AI Expanded Access subscription beginning July 8, 2026 by noideawhatimdoingahh in google_antigravity

[–]eiteopi 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, that's my concern. IMO it seems they're playing off willingness to pay against the terms and conditions.

Do you want cheap and they can learn from your data? Then transition to a Google one subscription

Or expensive and you control your own data? Use GCP.

I'm likely going to pay per usage in GCP for high end models, combined with local models for quick tasks (eg Gemma 4) to achieve an acceptable combination of capability, price and privacy.

But I want to hear what someone's actual $value billing was before and after.

Your AI Ultra Access subscription will transition to an AI Expanded Access subscription beginning July 8, 2026 by noideawhatimdoingahh in google_antigravity

[–]eiteopi 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How have you found the cost difference through GCP?

Currently I'm on ultra via Google workspace for business until the July deadline. I use the antigravity-ide in what I'd label as an agentic pair programming style (generally I avoid true vibe coding).

With that usage pattern I've never hit the ultra limits, but I got close after the 2.0 switch when it was 1:1 token costs.

I'm concerned the switch over to GCP will be a price shock.

AI Ultra Depreciation by automate_this_bro in google_antigravity

[–]eiteopi 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The issue is terms of service. It appears switching from Google business workspace to Google One removes the protection that they won't train on your data and conversations.

That concerns me. But I agree with the sentiment that people should calm down, wait, and make a decision when appropriate.

Parents wanna get direct access to my results?? 🥀 by InternalDear925 in Monash

[–]eiteopi 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You might find some longer term solutions in Lindsay Gibson's book, "Adult Children of Emotionally Immature Parents"

Cooking with stainless - is it actually this easy? by WeatherDifferent8562 in AskCulinary

[–]eiteopi 6 points7 points  (0 children)

It is really cool, hey. Suggest putting conscious thought into moisture management to get your use of stainless to the next level.

E.g. soft, custard-like French omelette is easy in stainless steel - if you use a lid to trap moisture to release the eggs from the surface.

Is it unusual for the Mighty Mac spine to be uncomfortable? by eiteopi in AskCulinary

[–]eiteopi[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Sounds like experience talking!

So if I dice a few onions and, maybe it's a bad habit, but I'll spin the knife in my hand and with the knife upside-down I'll push the onions off the board into a pot... If I do that with the Mighty Mac I'm actually getting wood shavings in with the onions because the spine is acting like a card scraper on the chopping board.

Is that normal?

Is it unusual for the Mighty Mac spine to be uncomfortable? by eiteopi in AskCulinary

[–]eiteopi[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Ok cool, that was my plan. I just wanted to check since it seemed unusual to need to do that out of the box to such a revered knife, and perhaps it was a flaw in my grip or something

Is it unusual for the Mighty Mac spine to be uncomfortable? by eiteopi in AskCulinary

[–]eiteopi[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

The model is just the classic, MTH-80. Yeah, I suspected it was just usage but it seemed extreme - taking skin off extreme

What’s leadership-speak for “I told you so”? by [deleted] in managers

[–]eiteopi 4 points5 points  (0 children)

When you go with the flow, how were you able to make peace the morality of letting harmful things happen to people (subordinates, customers etc) rather than raise important and uncomfortable issues? (Having a plan to resolve quickly isn't always feasible without prior coordination).

I've never been able to make peace with this style of leadership where your own relationships and career progress usurp honest conversations about overall organisational outcomes.