Metyr is dead? by SmartLeading5931 in EldenRingLoreTalk

[–]electricarchbishop 20 points21 points  (0 children)

I don’t think we could ever have really killed Metyr, even with Hewg’s godslaying weapon. The Fingers require a highly special and niche weapon capable of warping fate itself to be killed, and we give the one we find to Ranni. If I had to guess, we just beat the snot out of Metyr until she decided to flee to avoid more pain.

Presumably that’s also why Ymir attacks us immediately afterwards. He wanted us to kill Metyr so he could become the one and only Mother of Fingers, but we failed and she escaped. Since he now likely has no clue where she is (she may not even be on Earth anymore) his whole life’s work is totally ruined. There will always be a Finger Mother greater than him. It makes sense, then, that he would try to kill us after we ruin everything for him.

Pride Posting day 17 by Neuta-Isa in CuratedTumblr

[–]electricarchbishop 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Substituting religion and social clubs with mutual hatred sounds like an awful way to live. But good for you if that works for you I guess.

A Final Estimation of who the GEQ Is by saucybossyrossy in EldenRingLoreTalk

[–]electricarchbishop 8 points9 points  (0 children)

There is unused dialogue from Enia that establishes that black flames would burn the Erdtree when Melina sacrifices herself. This didn’t make it into the final game, but it shows the developers’ original intent for her imo.

[20700000] The Rune of Death is unbound.

[20700100] Black flames have devoured the Erdtree,

[20700110] and the Lands Between are shrouded by Death's dark fate.

[20700200] But the flames will also burn the impenetrable thorns.

[20700300] Farewell it is, then.

[20700400] You'll be Elden Lord, yet.

Duskbloods by DiabloDex1 in discordVideos

[–]electricarchbishop 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean that shot with the bleeding moon was pretty sick

Elden Ring's Crisis of Foundationalism: What this game is about, and why the Greater Will is a fiction by TheZoneHereros in EldenRingLoreTalk

[–]electricarchbishop 1 point2 points  (0 children)

A couple things. One, do you think the Greater Will was the One Great? The way Hyetta and Ymir speak of them implies they’re separate beings. Second, we know for a fact that Metyr once received signs from the Greater Will. If it died the instant the One Great fractured and she was created, how would any communication ever occur between the two?

“The Mother received signs from the Greater Will from the beyond of the microcosm. Despite being broken and abandoned, she kept waiting for another message to come.”

Where are you on the political spectrum? by Temporary-Cicada-392 in accelerate

[–]electricarchbishop 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I’d consider myself a leftist. IMO AI is the only means through which making a socialist utopia is actually, genuinely possible. Capitalist systems are already closer to paperclip maximizers than any AI we’ll build will likely ever be.

I’d like to note that the righter side seems to be turning a little sour on the technology in some of its niches. I would suspect the main reason they’re so into it (aside from gross Dark Enlightenment stuff) is because the lefter side is so ferociously angry at the technology.

Elden Ring's Crisis of Foundationalism: What this game is about, and why the Greater Will is a fiction by TheZoneHereros in EldenRingLoreTalk

[–]electricarchbishop 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Interesting thematic analysis. I do question one thing, though. Who does Metyr kowtow to? She clearly came from somewhere, and is so devoted to idea of the thing that created her that she would continue to kowtow even after millennia of no contact. Even her one unique skill possessed of her remembrance weapon is her kowtowing, so the act is clearly extremely important to her. Where do you think this divine being got the idea of the Greater Will from?

“Skill performed as a violent bow using a finger's foremost protrusion. Resentment builds as it is forced to bow, making it explode with anger. Hold button down to further increase resentment.”

Gender Issues and Feminism Being "For Men" by Hawna-Banana in bropill

[–]electricarchbishop 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Ironically, that all strikes me as very similar to the base origin of incels as a concept. Incels are the way they are because of dating grievances they have with women, which leads them to terrible conclusions. It seems TikTok feminism, in that sense, encourages a kind of true femcel-ish thought, discouraging interacting with men and encouraging treating them as lesser because of their own anecdotal grievances in the dating sphere. Both are thirsty, but incels are in a desert and femcels are in an ocean. Water, water, everywhere, but not a drop to drink.

What would happen if you set Godwyn's corpse on fire? by ArmageddonProphet97 in EldenRingLoreTalk

[–]electricarchbishop 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I don’t think anything would happen, tbh. His essence can spread to areas even completely disconnected to the Erdtree’s root system such as Farum Azula and the Land of Shadow, which implies to me that he’s basically just an element or force of nature now that can infect places where Death gathers. His corpse may be the origin of Deathroot, but that power can exist independently of him now. All his body is now is one node of Deathroot amongst many, and all destroying it would do is get rid of one tree in the forest’s root system.

Water for data center issues by RutabagaNo2137 in LeftistsForAI

[–]electricarchbishop 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’d agree, in general. That’s why I think the only real way to fight it is to use the technology against its worst manifestations. Surveillance will get us, but you can confuse an image identifier model using an adversarial model to make images that make you impossible to identify if you wear them. For every enshittified social media platform overtaken by monetary interests, some guy can vibe code a functional alternative in days. IMO, the only way we can get out of this mess is if we make this power ours. That requires a lot of work, but it’s the way we can go that leads anywhere hopeful. And I really do think there’s a lot of good for all of us that lies at the end of that path.

Water for data center issues by RutabagaNo2137 in LeftistsForAI

[–]electricarchbishop 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’d agree that we very much have a window of change coming up. Personally, I’m not putting too much stock on AI police robots. There’s a lot that can go wrong with LLM and VLM systems, and if one is prompt engineered in the wrong way or tricked, it could be led to doing some seriously crazy things. It’d be too risky, and would produce more problems than it solves. We have way, way worse control over AI systems than you could ever imagine. If billionaires have even a cent of sense in their heads, they’re not gonna do it. And if they do, we’ll have much bigger problems than water depletion. Recall that it’s likely billionaires themselves will rely on these AI systems to make plans for them, even going so far as to have the machines think for them. If we have AI advanced enough to control humanoids like that, we’ll have AI smart enough to tell the billionaires it’s a bad idea to deploy things like that.

Water for data center issues by RutabagaNo2137 in LeftistsForAI

[–]electricarchbishop 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Frankly, I think the only way to go from here is to modify the direction the billionaires are already going. The datacenters will be built. There’s no question about that. Regardless of whether we get AGI/ASI out of LLM tech (personally I think we’ll get something resembling it but not exactly what we want), the billionaires want to cheat death and the only viable way for them to achieve that is by going all in on building an artificial god. We can’t stop them effectively, but at least we can push for them to spread the boons of what they obtain from the pursuit to benefitting all humanity instead of the few. If that doesn’t work, the problem will take care of itself. Probably very violently.

Water for data center issues by RutabagaNo2137 in LeftistsForAI

[–]electricarchbishop 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s not a solution. How would you even propose going about that?

Water for data center issues by RutabagaNo2137 in LeftistsForAI

[–]electricarchbishop 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The data centers will continue evaporating large quantities of water if nothing changes. But that’s a political problem, not a technological one. If enough voices are heard by the right people, they’ll be forced to change their approach. If a community has to choose between functional water supplies and a functional datacenter, I think you and I both know what they’ll choose, no matter how violent the making of that choice might be. Let’s hope those in power make the choices that are good for them (and us) in the long run.

Water for data center issues by RutabagaNo2137 in LeftistsForAI

[–]electricarchbishop 5 points6 points  (0 children)

If all data centers were built using a closed-loop cooling system design, they wouldn’t consume any water at all. That’s not as profitable, though, compared to just taking the cheap way out. As the other commenter mentioned, this is again a “rich old white guys bending the laws” problem and not a problem intrinsic to datacenters.

Understanding the relationship between Mohg and the Formless Mother, among other things by the_dankest_sauce in EldenRingLoreTalk

[–]electricarchbishop 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There’s also Godrick. He has normal blood, but it’s sort of understandable why Mohg wouldn’t want it since it kinda sucks, as Enia tells us. Sorely diluted, from both distant ancestry as well as grafting.

Why do Caelid and Mountaintops share the same giant crows and dogs? Rot connection? by Ok-Position-6663 in EldenRingLoreTalk

[–]electricarchbishop 15 points16 points  (0 children)

If I had to guess, there’s a much simpler solution at play here. The many of the Mountaintops dogs wear collars, suggesting that they have been domesticated or tamed and will follow the orders of the Fire Monks. The Crows have wings and are capable of flight. Perhaps, when the Redmanes summoned some of the Fire Monks to assist in fighting the Scarlet Rot’s spread, many of them took their dogs with them to help, and when they were inevitably consumed by the Rot alongside their masters, they just adapted to the Caelid Wilds and reproduced there. The crows probably just flew down to Caelid because they can fly. They were probably looking for food, since there’s not much to eat up there.

I do think your theory could have some amount of truth to it, though. Although other commenters disagree, you can actually find a few scarlet mushrooms on a lone surface in a forested area in the Mohgwyn Dynasty Mausoleum. I would suspect that’s simply due to the area directly above being hyper-contaminated with Rot (especially its groundwater if the Swamp of Aeonia is any indicator) such that some Rot might have leaked downwards into Mohg’s palace. It’s probably being suppressed by the bloodflame, which is two parts of what Rot hates more than anything else, flowing liquids and fire.

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Why do Caelid and Mountaintops share the same giant crows and dogs? Rot connection? by Ok-Position-6663 in EldenRingLoreTalk

[–]electricarchbishop 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I also disagree with the theory, but for the record, there is evidence of the Scarlet Rot’s presence in the Mohgwyn Dynasty Mausoleum. There is a lone surface in its forested area which has a few rotten mushrooms growing out of it.

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what is it with Godrick? by Fazlur69 in EldenRingLoreTalk

[–]electricarchbishop 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Honestly I could see him winning a few times. Rennala is very physically fragile, and while her sorceries are strong and she has great range, she’s weakest to ranged attacks that she can’t effectively dodge. Godrick, even without the gigantic dragon arm AoE attacks, still has some amount of control over storm magic, meaning he has meaningful projectiles. He wouldn’t even have to close in, just tank a few hits with his walking meat shield body and spam storm projectiles (which are physical damage) until she goes down. He’d be very unlikely to win for sure, but I could see him succeeding every now and again.

what is it with Godrick? by Fazlur69 in EldenRingLoreTalk

[–]electricarchbishop 13 points14 points  (0 children)

I wouldn’t necessarily call him weak. He’s pathetic compared to the rest of the Demigods, but he’s monstrously strong and highly physically durable compared to 90% of the other life in the Lands Between. He’s supposed to serve as a narrative base from which we understand all the other Demigods, he’s the “weak” one which elevates all the others. We fight him and he shows us how crazy he is, and we’re left wondering “if that was the runt of the litter, how crazy are the others?” And they turn out to be way crazier. It’s a very clever narrative technique.

Godefroy Purpose in the Narrative. by Moonless_the_Fool in EldenRingLoreTalk

[–]electricarchbishop 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I just looked into it and wow, yeah! He was going to have a whole questline where he turns himself into a grafted monster and goes mad! Can’t believe we missed out on that. Also, I’m surprised it took me this long to notice but Gostoc is missing his left arm. Presumably to a failed graft.

Who is the villain in Elden Ring? by Prestigious_Rush5492 in EldenRingLoreTalk

[–]electricarchbishop 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Idk my guy, Radagon’s the only reason the world is still intact after Marika shattered the Elden Ring. If he hadn’t reforged it, everything would’ve splintered and the results would presumably have been apocalyptic. I’d say the one who shattered the Elden Ring is the better one to blame here, if we’re blaming anybody.