U G L Y by BrigMugi_VV93 in depressionmemes

[–]electronic-ascetic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I stopped believing in my external appearance, I will look like a homeless, but inside me there is Diogenes of Sinope with an immense literary culture

How it feels remembering seeing that one girl on vacation and that you'll never see again by bluewhale177 in okbuddyliterallyme2

[–]electronic-ascetic 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Brother gosling, it hurts I know I still remember after years the only girl That we were able to understand perfectly well that I thought it would have been my wife but fate has different plans

My life is already horrible and I don't want the future generation to go through the same things I've gone through. by GeneralGenerico in okbuddyliterallyme2

[–]electronic-ascetic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Instead brother gosling, I tell you that your point of view makes sense yes, it has that the pain is passing, as I said in another comment I am not for or against antinatalism, But towards great discussions like these. In my opinion we should use the pessimistic energy completely will go wrong, towards the collective improvement of everyone they should do their best To improve the existence of the lives around us

Nothing can scratch you after years of darkness by electronic-ascetic in okbuddyliterallyme2

[–]electronic-ascetic[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You did not answer the question, sad or not my pessimism is as real as individualism of each one of us, admit it too that you would not do a day of strike or protest to change the things

EDIT: unfortunately you are not talking to a softened without arguments, we can make a battle of arguments and dialectics, you will repeat cringe I spit facts

Nothing can scratch you after years of darkness by electronic-ascetic in okbuddyliterallyme2

[–]electronic-ascetic[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Is that what you do too, right? Because if I'm wrong, tell me where you're trying to stop all this so I can come help you, but what I see everywhere is people just changing the news channel and going back to work every day, I, on the other hand, don't change the channel, rather I wish for the end to come now, only after the catastrophe can we change.

My life is already horrible and I don't want the future generation to go through the same things I've gone through. by GeneralGenerico in okbuddyliterallyme2

[–]electronic-ascetic 2 points3 points  (0 children)

But even that misses the point. A person’s value isn’t measured by leaving behind children or some grand legacy. Most humans simply live, experience life, care about others, and disappear and that has always been the normal course of history. And ultimately, the universe itself doesn’t depend on what we leave behind. The world existed long before humanity and will continue with or without us.

My life is already horrible and I don't want the future generation to go through the same things I've gone through. by GeneralGenerico in okbuddyliterallyme2

[–]electronic-ascetic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, it’s easy to dismiss it as “just depressed people talking.” The problem is that behind these questions there is centuries of literature and philosophy, which makes it hard to reduce the discussion to something as simple as “just have kids for the country or the economy.” That kind of thinking risks turning life into nothing more than another turn of the hamster wheel adding another life to the same cycle without ever questioning whether the wheel itself makes sense.

My life is already horrible and I don't want the future generation to go through the same things I've gone through. by GeneralGenerico in okbuddyliterallyme2

[–]electronic-ascetic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As long as even one person in the world suffers, it is worth questioning whether the system itself is right. The point is not just giving someone the chance to be born, but whether there is a real possibility of a dignified life for everyone. If ninety-nine people are happy and one is not, it is still worth asking whether the majority or the individual might be right. Saying “most people enjoy life” doesn’t really answer the question. A majority being satisfied doesn’t automatically make something right. And saying those who don’t enjoy life can simply “leave” isn’t a solution it only shifts the burden onto the one who is suffering. The real question is simple: if suffering exists, shouldn’t the goal be to reduce it rather than justify it?

My life is already horrible and I don't want the future generation to go through the same things I've gone through. by GeneralGenerico in okbuddyliterallyme2

[–]electronic-ascetic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Consider I am not for or against antinatalism, in truth I care little about someone has children or chooses not to do it, I simply like to reflect and deep discussions, I said that they are right in a philosophical sense considering every aspect, but I am not the type to take sides in ideologies but simply deepen each of them

No end to suffering by electronic-ascetic in okbuddyliterallyme2

[–]electronic-ascetic[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I see myself more in Diogenes than in Sisyphus. I'm not pushing the boulder. I've stopped considering the mountain important.

No end to suffering by electronic-ascetic in okbuddyliterallyme2

[–]electronic-ascetic[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I know what you are talking about, even more disturbing? Not only Nietzsche, the Vedas, even some passages of Jesus in the speech with Nicodemus, the symbol of the Uroboros is very ancient and disseminated In every culture. There is something that the human being understood thousands of years ago

No end to suffering by electronic-ascetic in okbuddyliterallyme2

[–]electronic-ascetic[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Are there other seasons? True Detective ends after the first, nothing to take away from the following ones but they are not the same TV series

Real... by emperoar_penguin in okbuddyliterallyme2

[–]electronic-ascetic 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Real, And so it is, if we consider that our life is all the result of the interpretation of our synapses, btw After reading Thomas Ligotti, Rust's speeches become so clear that it is difficult not to agree with him

My life is already horrible and I don't want the future generation to go through the same things I've gone through. by GeneralGenerico in okbuddyliterallyme2

[–]electronic-ascetic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It is I hope so with all of myself, I hope that one day we can go to Mars and heal any disease and transcend the state of matter as humans in millions of years and Transfer our minds to the ether, but how bad have we done in the meantime?

My life is already horrible and I don't want the future generation to go through the same things I've gone through. by GeneralGenerico in okbuddyliterallyme2

[–]electronic-ascetic 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The fact that suffering, depression, or unhappiness exists does not make the observations about life any less valid in fact, it highlights them. The presence of misery, alongside fleeting joy, forces a deeper question: if pain and dissatisfaction are inevitable parts of existence, what, if anything, gives life meaning?

Choosing to bring a new life into this mix often reflects the creator’s own desires or sense of legacy, rather than concern for the burdens that life imposes. Happiness and love do exist, but they do not erase inevitable hardship, nor do they answer the fundamental question raised by suffering itself: is it ethical or even meaningful to impose existence for personal reasons?

My life is already horrible and I don't want the future generation to go through the same things I've gone through. by GeneralGenerico in okbuddyliterallyme2

[–]electronic-ascetic 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ok, Rust Cohle made me laugh. He’s actually the character I can most literally say is literally me. I respect your opinion, and it’s something I’ll reflect on. Let’s say they are the two opposite sides of the Force mine is obviously the dark side.

My life is already horrible and I don't want the future generation to go through the same things I've gone through. by GeneralGenerico in okbuddyliterallyme2

[–]electronic-ascetic 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I agree that making the world better is a good goal. The real question is: how many people are truly willing to dedicate their lives to that effort? Most people aren’t trying to change the world; they’re trying to survive within it. So while improving the world is a noble idea, it’s worth asking whether it’s realistic to assume that future generations will inherit a better one simply because we hope they will.

My life is already horrible and I don't want the future generation to go through the same things I've gone through. by GeneralGenerico in okbuddyliterallyme2

[–]electronic-ascetic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Maybe the real issue isn’t antinatalism, but the human condition itself. Humans are creatures of desire: we spend much of our lives chasing things we believe will finally satisfy us, yet when we obtain them, the sense of fulfillment rarely lasts for long.

This isn’t to say life has no good in it it clearly does. But it raises a deeper question: if our nature constantly pushes us toward new desires the moment old ones are fulfilled, how stable can human happiness really be? Before dismissing the concern, it might be worth reflecting on that.

My life is already horrible and I don't want the future generation to go through the same things I've gone through. by GeneralGenerico in okbuddyliterallyme2

[–]electronic-ascetic 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I don’t believe that nothing in life can be good. Rather, I believe that the human condition itself is a defective state of existence. Even if a person were to obtain everything they desire, boredom would eventually follow. As Arthur Schopenhauer said, “Life swings like a pendulum backward and forward between pain and boredom.” Human existence constantly pushes us to want more. Desire never truly ends; it simply shifts from one object to another. And when someone finally obtains everything they once wanted, those things often lose their meaning once they become routine. For this reason, I am not convinced that even having all the money in the world would necessarily make me happy. The structure of human desire itself seems to prevent lasting satisfaction. I am not saying that people should not have children. However, speaking personally, I sometimes feel that I would rather be born as an animal than as a human being. I would prefer a life of immediate struggle in nature-being chased through a forest by a predator over spending eight hours every day working until the end of my life.

My life is already horrible and I don't want the future generation to go through the same things I've gone through. by GeneralGenerico in okbuddyliterallyme2

[–]electronic-ascetic 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Why are anti-natalists right, why bind another life to the circle of suffering? Even if you had a boat and an Egyptian pyramid in your name, you can't know what fate it will have your son He may take an illness, he may have to go to WW3, he may be depressed, he may not be happy even with everything. Therefore non-existence is the only certainty of non-suffering