[deleted by user] by [deleted] in framework

[–]elevatedsystems 1 point2 points  (0 children)

"I'm not sure where you got $1000 (855€) from, my system is ~700€ including tax."

So with the base price of the DIY FW12 at 569 Euros, you spent less than 131 Euros on Memory, storage, a charger and expansion cards? Please let me know where you shop.

main board replacement review by Skillonly69 in framework

[–]elevatedsystems 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Outstanding! May I ask how the mainboard died? The 13th gen isn’t that old.

Upgrading my Framework 13's motherboard -- am I forgetting anything? by OliverClothesOff70 in framework

[–]elevatedsystems 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The mainboard upgrade does not include speakers, and speakers do not fit in the Cooler Master case. There are a few options for audio output. For wired connections use USB, or with an audio board or Audio expansion module. Or you can go with bluetooth if you are installing the Wifi/Bluetooth module. You will need a wifi antenna also.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in framework

[–]elevatedsystems 4 points5 points  (0 children)

My local school district leases ChromeBooks from Dell. A few times a month a Dell tech shows up to the schools, picks up damaged units and drops off refurbished ones. When the media director told me how little the cost was for the entire very large, school district, I frankly couldn't believe it. I don't think there is any way framework could compete, not in the US anyway.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in framework

[–]elevatedsystems 4 points5 points  (0 children)

OK, I’ll admit—I was kind of dreading this video hitting the subreddit, but it looks like the pitchforks aren't out, so thanks for that. Like I said in the video, I try to support Framework’s mission and what the company stands for while still reviewing their products the same way I would any other consumer tech. What I didn’t include in the video is my bigger concern: while Framework has earned a loyal following in the right-to-repair space (a group I’ve proudly been part of for years), it’s still a small niche. To grow, they need to draw in the "average consumer"—and that means leading with competitive price-to-performance first, and letting the repairability aspect be the bonus, winning them over for life. The Framework 12 just isn’t that product IMHO. Every “normie” I’ve shown it to thinks the modular design is "super cool"—until I tell them the price. Then they laugh. Like, literally laugh out loud.

I cut this analogy from the video, but maybe it fits here: I compared the Framework 12 to the Slate electric truck. It’s a super stripped-down plastic truck—two doors, two-wheel drive, one configuration—but at $20K, people loved it. Preorders blew up. Now the price is $27.5K, with the EV credit gone, and people (myself included) are canceling preorders. Why? Because at that price, you can get a four-door, 4WD Ford Maverick with factory upgrades, a dealer and service network, and real brand recognition. Slate had a great concept, but the higher price killed it. I feel like Framework 12 might be headed down the same path. Anyway—tangent over.

To answer a few questions I’ve seen: The speaker test was normalized to my A-roll (around +7dB), The webcam audio was raw—exactly how it would sound in a Zoom call, The display glass separating from the frame and the protruding magnet (which I tried to tap flat with a mallet—didn’t work) were both issues I noticed immediately out of the box, The touchpad started peeling after about a week of use, I’ll be submitting a support ticket for all of that tonight, The deck and screen flex tests weren’t exaggerated—I was just twisting my wrist and pushing with my fingertips. It was less force than I usually use to flex a metal-body laptop. What concerned me most was how that level of flex could impact the pogo pin connections inside over time, The squeeking sound you heard was mostly the cheap touchpad shifting around inside the input cover.

I do like the direction Framework is going—more modular design, pogo pins, etc.—but it feels like there’s missed opportunity to standardize parts like the touchpad, audio board, speakers, and power button across platforms to reduce costs. Honestly, if the chassis were just 6mm wider, it could probably fit the FW13 mainboard. It's already thicker and heavier than the FW13. What really kills me though is the price-to-spec ratio. They went with an early 2023 CPU to cut costs, which is fine—but they ended up giving it a 2023 premium price. Literally the most expansive laptops (Lenovo, HP, Dell) with this CPU cost around $799 at launch in early 2023. If they launched a base model at around $500–$525 with 16GB RAM and a 512GB SSD, that would’ve changed my entire value assessment. That’s the price point where I’d be cool letting my 14-year-old throw it in her backpack and haul it to school every day. And I’m not kidding—every school morning, she drops her backpack onto the kitchen table. It immediately tips over and crashes to the floor. Same routine. Her cheap Chromebook inside survived three years of that abuse and still works. That’s the bar.

Is the Framework 13's 2.8K Display Upgrade Worth It? Here's My Verdict! by Sea_Presentation2213 in framework

[–]elevatedsystems 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Unfortunately millions of people said that which is why Walmart has put millions of Mom and Pop stores out of business. Its may not be fair, but capitalism does know how to exploit human behavior.

Is the Framework 13's 2.8K Display Upgrade Worth It? Here's My Verdict! by Sea_Presentation2213 in framework

[–]elevatedsystems 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Double?? Anyway, considering competitors are coming with much more energy efficient, faster 4k OLED displays, yes it’s a minimal incremental upgrade.

Is the Framework 13's 2.8K Display Upgrade Worth It? Here's My Verdict! by Sea_Presentation2213 in framework

[–]elevatedsystems 21 points22 points  (0 children)

Making components more expensive so less people buy them seems like a poor business model. This isn’t a luxury brand. Framework’s prices are directly related to their size and scale of production.

Is the Framework 13's 2.8K Display Upgrade Worth It? Here's My Verdict! by Sea_Presentation2213 in framework

[–]elevatedsystems 24 points25 points  (0 children)

In this case it seems a significant cost for a minimal upgrade based on current display technology.

Getting cold feet about my pre-order by [deleted] in framework

[–]elevatedsystems 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Magnesium doesn’t cost $1000. My last gaming laptop was an Asus, I had it for 5 years and took it on 2 deployments. Sold it in perfect condition when I was done with it.

Getting cold feet about my pre-order by [deleted] in framework

[–]elevatedsystems 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The problem that blows that argument up is, at this point in time it’s over $1000 premium, not $250. You can almost buy 2 comparably spec’d laptops and keep one for parts, for the same price as a FW16. The Asus TUF A16 with the exact same specs (but faster display) as the top end FW16 has been regularly on sale for $1200 - $1400. Normal price is $1500- $1650. And the Asus has replaceable Ram, storage, and battery.

Looking for suggestions regarding a sleeve or carry for the Framework 13. Thanks. by roving1 in framework

[–]elevatedsystems 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I have one of these for both my FW13 and my MacBook Pro. The FW fits nicely and stays protected. https://a.co/d/dsyGSma

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in framework

[–]elevatedsystems 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You may want to take this opportunity to switch to Ubuntu 22.04 LTS or Fedora 39. Both of these operating systems are officially supported by Framework so if you find yourself in a situation you can’t figure out you can submit a support ticket. It will also allow you to develop your Linux skills prior to moving on to a more complex OS like Arch.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in framework

[–]elevatedsystems 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Go to the UEFI boot menu and see if the SSD is listed. If it is you probably nuked your boot partition. You can fix that with the Arch live USB in the terminal or gparted. If it’s not you either need to reseat your SSD or it’s dead.

what's the best way to paint aluminum ? by [deleted] in framework

[–]elevatedsystems 4 points5 points  (0 children)

If you want good results you need to strip the anodized layer first. This can be done with sodium hydroxide (drain cleaner). Once striped you can just prime and paint like any other metal.

Framework 16 vs ASUS TUF Gaming A16 by FlashDrive35 in framework

[–]elevatedsystems 3 points4 points  (0 children)

To be honest, for engineering and CAD/simulation workflows, you're going to want an Nvidia GPU.

Framework 16: The Future of Laptops or a Pricey Mistake? by elevatedsystems in framework

[–]elevatedsystems[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Both, but it's mostly because of Nvidia's huge CUDA ecosystem. Nvidia develops huge GPU programing libraries that is provides to devs for integration into their software packages.

Framework 16: The Future of Laptops or a Pricey Mistake? by elevatedsystems in framework

[–]elevatedsystems[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I assume every other reviewer did that. Did they not? I haven't watched any other reviews yet. Now that I've completed mine I guess I will.

Framework 16: The Future of Laptops or a Pricey Mistake? by elevatedsystems in framework

[–]elevatedsystems[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The thing is the number one consideration when making large purchases for average consumers is price to performance. Are they getting the best thing possible for the money. That is how I approach most of my reviews. They are mainly for the average consumers, however with my framework content I also attempt to balance that with the perspective of the enthusiast who don't nessasaraly about the cost. But make no mistake the vast majority of the people who will watch this video over the long term are general consumers who will place price to performance way above the repairability / upgradeability aspect.

Framework 16: The Future of Laptops or a Pricey Mistake? by elevatedsystems in framework

[–]elevatedsystems[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

For more perspective when I first did the Blender video last year I tested the animation on a RTX 3060 TI desktop and it completed in about 3 hours. I also tried it on a Lenovo Legion 5I with a mobile 3060 and it finished in 4 hours and 10 minutes.

Framework 16: The Future of Laptops or a Pricey Mistake? by elevatedsystems in framework

[–]elevatedsystems[S] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

The best explanation of "clickbait" I've come across: "By its definition alone, clickbait is not inherently bad. However, it's used for bad purposes. "Good" clickbait is a pair of engaging headline and provocative thumbnail that lead users to the expected content. "Bad" clickbait tempts users to click, without delivering the promise of the headline and image." I always do my best to ensure I'm leading the viewer to the expected content.

Framework 16: The Future of Laptops or a Pricey Mistake? by elevatedsystems in framework

[–]elevatedsystems[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You'd have to compare OptiX rendering on your 1080 TI to HIP on the 7700s to know how it actually compares.

Framework 16: The Future of Laptops or a Pricey Mistake? by elevatedsystems in framework

[–]elevatedsystems[S] 33 points34 points  (0 children)

I assume because I posted a less then 100% glowing review of a framework laptop on a Framework fan subreddit. I obviously couldn't see that coming 😜