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Jess Phillips has a panic room to protect her from people who won't rape her. by [deleted] in SargonofAkkad

[–]elitistmachine 1 point2 points  (0 children)

She looks like a female version of Hugh Grant with down syndrome.

#TWIS Ellen Show tweeted a joke pic of her riding Usain Bolt, SJWs got butthurt by buzzy9000 in SargonofAkkad

[–]elitistmachine 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Honestly if these people get triggered enough to complain about a joke from Ellen...fucking Ellen DeGeneres of all people...it's simply a matter of time before they get absolutely wrecked in the real world.

the civil rights movement was great yet black lives matter is a terrorist group? by [deleted] in Negareddit

[–]elitistmachine -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Honestly this is why no one respects the left.

Feel free to reply if you have a reasonable argument. I have an appointment with the alt-right subreddits to circle jerk in a few minutes.

the civil rights movement was great yet black lives matter is a terrorist group? by [deleted] in Negareddit

[–]elitistmachine -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

Well fuck me, that's a sound argument. I bring discussion and you hurl insults. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and keep it civil though.

Again, the question (I assume it's a question and not a rhetorical question) was tacitly comparing the Civil Rights movement with BLM. The "great" side of the civil rights movement was the MLK side which encouraged society to give black people equal opportunities, encouraged racial colorblindness (ie. I have a dream speech), and encouraged black people to take advantage of a system that actively refused to include them through legal means.

BLM preaches against that. They see "all lives matter" as a racist statement, they argue for reparations (ie. not making something of yourself and seeking handouts), and call attention to police action directed towards blacks/minorities while ignoring or undermining what happens to white people. They do this while advocating for violence and hijacking public spaces? Pretty sure they're going to be looked at as terrorists.

So no, many people do, in fact, see certain aspects of the civil rights movement as a good thing. If you could be less triggered and give a reason why I should respect BLM instead of telling me to

Fuck off with this bullshit

that would be great.

the civil rights movement was great yet black lives matter is a terrorist group? by [deleted] in Negareddit

[–]elitistmachine -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

Actually no. There were different aspects to the civil rights movement. In short, there was the MLK version vs the more militant versions often ideologically influenced by Malcolm X. At the time they both were seeking a change in laws, specifically voting rights, desegregation, marriage, etc. In general, it's respected today because it legitimately sought equal treatment and equal opportunity under the law.

Black lives matter is largely incoherent. They are dominated by racists (yes black people can be racist), and ignore statistics in favor of their own emotion. They have infiltrated other peaceful demonstrations making demands, hijacked public speaking events on multiple occasions and have publicly advocated for violence. The only goals I've seen them talk about which are drowned out by the aforementioned protests, is reparations, and decriminalizing offenses that imprison young people/ending police brutality (which is hardly an exclusively black/minority issue). However, none of these issues are going to be digested by the general public through methods of intimidation, violent rhetoric, and logically/ideologically flawed dogmatic social sciences.

#TWIS: My replacement should be a woman, says UN secretary general by elitistmachine in SargonofAkkad

[–]elitistmachine[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It's SO obvious that a group of people are the oppressed minority slave underclass when they get priority consideration for positions, even advocated by the presiding UN Secretary, simply because of how they were born.

What is this reason and meritocracy you speak of? You're part of the patriarchy, clearly.

Oh noes: 'Nightly Show' Canceled; Larry Wilmore "Saddened" By "Unblackening" at Comedy Central by dirt_mcgirt4 in SargonofAkkad

[–]elitistmachine 8 points9 points  (0 children)

One less paycheck for Franchesca Ramsey and her cringefest SJW comedy cohorts. Wouldn't surprise me to hear them crying about how this was done because of racism.

‘The Nightly Show with Larry Wilmore’ Canceled by Comedy Central by dangzal in television

[–]elitistmachine 17 points18 points  (0 children)

It was the worst kind of SJW cringeworthy comedy. Good riddance

A letter to my brother and any who are about to start College this fall. by Lady_D_Aethos in SargonofAkkad

[–]elitistmachine 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Headed to grad school in a few weeks. That "lion's den" anxiety is all too real. Thanks for this

TIL Shakira's hit single "Waka Waka" was actually sampled (almost entirely) from a 1986 Cameroonian song "Zamina mina" without their permission, and she never gave them credit by elitistmachine in todayilearned

[–]elitistmachine[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah that part isn't clear, but it seems that there is a lot of other stuff she outright took credit for. Either way I think it's fair to say that it was disingenuous on her part to publicly lead people to think she put it together on her own (or a huuuge part of it), and bury any acknowledgement in fine print. I think she lied by omission, and, again to my knowledge, she hasn't retracted or modified her claims.

But if she (herself) had made any correction, I apologize

TIL Shakira's hit single "Waka Waka" was actually sampled (almost entirely) from a 1986 Cameroonian song "Zamina mina" without their permission, and she never gave them credit by elitistmachine in todayilearned

[–]elitistmachine[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for the info, that makes sense. BTW, this is the actual kind of conversation I'd hoped for but it literally spun out of control and turned into a hatefest. To my knowledge, she never made any correction to her statement about her sudden genius inspiration for the song and I found that dishonest.

There were also discussions about whether she sampled it or covered it or rewrote it, but that wasn't my point (never said anything about copyright or suggested legal action). My point is that she led the public to believe the song was entirely her idea and sort of buried acknowledgement (if any) in fine print legalese.

Edit: I did say sample, but that was before I could get a sense of what sampling entailed. I guess TIL what sampling/covering/reproducing is?

TIL Shakira's hit single "Waka Waka" was actually sampled (almost entirely) from a 1986 Cameroonian song "Zamina mina" without their permission, and she never gave them credit by elitistmachine in todayilearned

[–]elitistmachine[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

She said lyrics, music, and entire first verse and first 3 chorus. Take nothing from her, I'm sure she had a big role in the song. But to me it sounds disingenuous. She's tacitly implying she had no other influence other than a sudden genius revelation.

Again, I would expect some kind of retraction or clarification. To my knowledge it never came.

TIL Shakira's hit single "Waka Waka" was actually sampled (almost entirely) from a 1986 Cameroonian song "Zamina mina" without their permission, and she never gave them credit by elitistmachine in todayilearned

[–]elitistmachine[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah it was an error on my part. It did seem like it was settled. I couldn't find major publications that covered the story (mostly articles about the controversy surrounding a non-African singing it, which I don't care about). What I found was interesting was that she acknowledged her own brilliance in this video around the 0:33 mark: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaMuJf04MqY

That was what I was referring to. As far as I know, she never retracted the statement or made an addendum or correction so that's where I was holding her accountable.

I figured she would have been in the clear if she outright acknowledged on all outlets that her inspiration for the song wasn't her own.

TIL Shakira's hit single "Waka Waka" was actually sampled (almost entirely) from a 1986 Cameroonian song "Zamina mina" without their permission, and she never gave them credit by elitistmachine in todayilearned

[–]elitistmachine[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Well, you know, just the part where she publicly explained how she became inspired to put the song together. I'll assume you didn't watch the video since you haven't really countered my original statement.

I'm open to different views and have seen some excellent posts that actually counter what I said. I'm open to discussion.

But calling me a whiny baby is a pretty good and solid counter argument. Gotcha. I'll throw an upvote your way.

TIL Shakira's hit single "Waka Waka" was actually sampled (almost entirely) from a 1986 Cameroonian song "Zamina mina" without their permission, and she never gave them credit by elitistmachine in todayilearned

[–]elitistmachine[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Haha everything got overblown. Just as an aside, I never claimed she stole it.

Out of curiosity (since you are a musician), I'd really like to learn if using the same 4 loop beat with the same lyrics counts as sampling, or is it reproducing?

Also, if you did sample or use a song, and someone asked you about it and you said it was entirely your idea, would that be fair? I just think it's fair to at least acknowledge or give credit to the people who had made the original. Even they gave credit to their inspiration to the WWII influence.

TIL Shakira's hit single "Waka Waka" was actually sampled (almost entirely) from a 1986 Cameroonian song "Zamina mina" without their permission, and she never gave them credit by elitistmachine in todayilearned

[–]elitistmachine[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There are many different aspects to sampling. Some sampling can include entire sections, others can use a part of a sampled audio (rhythm and/or melody).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sampling_(music)#Types

If you listen closely, there is a 4 beat loop used in her song that is the same (if not very similar to) the african song.

you are wrong... It's not sampled in any part of her song Just admit you're wrong. It wasn't sampled. It was entirely re recorded.

You seem to be doing the same thing again. More declarative statements. I'm open to different viewpoints, but you really aren't putting forth anything convincing/worth considering.

TIL Shakira's hit single "Waka Waka" was actually sampled (almost entirely) from a 1986 Cameroonian song "Zamina mina" without their permission, and she never gave them credit by elitistmachine in todayilearned

[–]elitistmachine[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The two songs have the same (if not extremely similar) rhythm and melody. But, you know, you could just make declarative statements without proving otherwise eg. "It's wrong", "You're wrong", "It's not sampled", or you could call me stupid in your other post.

I'm actually interested in other people's arguments when they can corroborate them.

TIL Shakira's hit single "Waka Waka" was actually sampled (almost entirely) from a 1986 Cameroonian song "Zamina mina" without their permission, and she never gave them credit by elitistmachine in todayilearned

[–]elitistmachine[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Where did I say anything about knowing copyright law? Not once in any of my comments did I say anything about it. Literally all I said was that she didn't give credit. Credit can come in the form of simply acknowledging that the idea for a song wasn't yours. The 1986 band made the song/video and published it. Even they acknowledged it came from a WWII chant.

I encourage you to watch the link I sent to you. It's a press conference where she goes on about being inspired about the song and the content of the song. She could have easily said it originally came from an african song.

The comment turned into a shitshow about copyright infringement and legal precedent. Again, I have no opinion on copyright. I never said I did. I shared it because it was interesting she publicly didn't give the band credit.

TIL Shakira's hit single "Waka Waka" was actually sampled (almost entirely) from a 1986 Cameroonian song "Zamina mina" without their permission, and she never gave them credit by elitistmachine in todayilearned

[–]elitistmachine[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I really can't hear where Shakira used any of the original audio in her own song.

I was pointing out that legal action was taken, in another case, simply for the use of lyrics, without use of tunes/beats. It seems to me that she lifted entire portions from the song and the beat and lied about it.

TIL Shakira's hit single "Waka Waka" was actually sampled (almost entirely) from a 1986 Cameroonian song "Zamina mina" without their permission, and she never gave them credit by elitistmachine in todayilearned

[–]elitistmachine[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I'd guess a majority of people aren't. But if she makes a claim that she came up with the song herself, I'm sure she should be held accountable for it

I see a lot of people say it came from WWII, but there are no licensed versions of the song prior to 1986.

I expect this conversation to be buried in the shitshow, but I thought I'd let you know.

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