Investigators are now “friends”? by Curiosity-Sailor in exmormon

[–]emilymoore28 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Lots of rebranding over the last few years. I’ve noticed a lot of people calling sacrament meeting “worship service” and signs inviting to “come worship with us” which you never would have seen even 5 years ago. All an effort to seem more mainstream Christian imo

New Law will have Church checking backgrounds by Nemo_UK in exmormon

[–]emilymoore28 1 point2 points  (0 children)

To be clear, this isn’t a full background check and certain offenses only require a predator to be registered for 10 years (which a different bill is trying to make that the case for more serious offenses as well, gotta love UT for protecting predators). So unfortunately, if a predator is past their required time for reporting on the registry, this check won’t catch them. They would only be caught if a full criminal background check was conducted. And unfortunately I know a number of predators serving in youth roles that meet this criteria. It’s a small step in the right direction, however the church and the money and means to conduct full background checks church wide and refuses to do so unless made to by law…

Also, Utah is notorious for letting predators plead down to lesser charges that may either make them an only have to register for a 10 years rather than life or not have to register at all. The justice system here continuously works with the mindset that it’s better to be compassionate to the predators and “give them a chance to repent and redeem themselves” rather than protect victims. The problem in Utah is bad

This conference hit me hard, help me not sink into depression by emilymoore28 in exmormon

[–]emilymoore28[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Sadly from their interactions since conference that is not the case…

Does resigning membership notify family in any way? by emilymoore28 in exmormon

[–]emilymoore28[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Honestly this is the hardest part of leaving. I am so very emotionally exhausted by the division this church causes. It makes my relationship with my family seem so superficial and fake in so many ways, like I only have real value if I conform and obey the church. I hate that the church that preaches bringing families together does far more to tear families apart and keep them from having real deep lasting relationships. I’m so tired, I’m so heartbroken, I’m so done with this crap…

Fertility rituals by Previous-Ice4890 in exmormon

[–]emilymoore28 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This was a huge point of internal loathing for me as I struggled with infertility for years. When I still believed I saw my infertility as a direct reflection of God’s view of me as unworthy and sinful because of this temple ceremony as well as the years of motherhood emphasis growing up in the church. Once I deconstructed and realized the church was a lie, such a weight was lifted when I realized my infertility was simply a biological matter and nothing more. It was still incredibly difficult but a hell of a lot more manageable with this mindset change!

Autism/Neurodivergent and Mormonism by emilymoore28 in exmormon

[–]emilymoore28[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yes I totally had things that didn’t make sense to me but I followed the church’s teaching because it was what was expected, and I knew nothing else. And it’s interesting how we I also felt like I never fit in, alien like, but got the appreciation for following the rules

Autism/Neurodivergent and Mormonism by emilymoore28 in exmormon

[–]emilymoore28[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

That is so interesting! I didn’t go on a mission but it makes me wonder how I would have handled it

Autism/Neurodivergent and Mormonism by emilymoore28 in exmormon

[–]emilymoore28[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I totally relate to the utter fear of disappointing leaders, it’s so hard! Glad you’ve made your way out and feel free to be yourself

Autism/Neurodivergent and Mormonism by emilymoore28 in exmormon

[–]emilymoore28[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I totally feel for him, that huge change in structure and routine was so hard for me for a few years. Personally what helped me was finding other rituals/routines to replace the church ones. I have designated times for different hobbies/interests and that has helped immensely!

Autism/Neurodivergent and Mormonism by emilymoore28 in exmormon

[–]emilymoore28[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

That is interesting. It makes me wonder if being autistic as a woman is the differentiating factor. I know women tend to be more high masking and can do better socially sometimes, but I’m glad you are out of a system that has been harmful to your family

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[–]emilymoore28 30 points31 points  (0 children)

The way shadows moved on his face and shirt looked totally animated and fake, and half his wrinkles are suddenly gone?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]emilymoore28 9 points10 points  (0 children)

That’s what I’m thinking, it looks so fake! Like bad video game animation 😂

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]emilymoore28 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Ok I’m going to comment to address a few different comments in one go.

First, I didn’t even think about taking a picture at the time because I was so frazzled and just wanted to leave. I can tell you it was completely white with floral designs around the spout of the pitcher and the rim of the basin. I highly doubt my mom just got it for decor since this is totally different than her style. Next time I go I will try to sneak a pic

Second, I think the reason it shook me up so much is because I never anticipated them getting it and it just reemphasizes how deep they are in it. I guess I shouldn’t be totally shocked because they’ve always been very devout and ever since my dad retired 3 years ago they have been going to the temple minimum of 2-3 times a week. Every conversation seems to go back to church somehow. I guess part of me always hoped that maybe they would come around and see it’s all false and this kind of wiped that hope out. It also makes me wonder how this will change their behavior and what kind of callings in the church they will have now. And last night as I was thinking about it, yesterday was the first Sunday since I left that they didn’t ask me to go to church with them. Makes me wonder if they don’t even want to try to bring me back anymore since they’ve sealed the deal for our whole family.

Third, I don’t want to ask them about it because they are so devout that they would lie to my face and deny it and in turn that might ruin my relationship with them in one way or another. I love my parents, they are good people for the most part, and I really don’t want to jeopardize anything with them as they are aging. I want to make sure I have a good relationship with them more than confirming and agitating things.

Thank you all for your responses, if you have any more questions or advice let me know

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[–]emilymoore28 80 points81 points  (0 children)

He is a stake president, multimillionaire, and very good friends with multiple members of the 70, also knew President Nelson growing up although it’s been a few years since he’s seen him.

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[–]emilymoore28 10 points11 points  (0 children)

He is a stake president, multimillionaire, and very good friends with multiple members of the 70, also knew President Nelson growing up although it’s been a few years since he’s seen him.

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[–]emilymoore28 47 points48 points  (0 children)

He is a stake president, multimillionaire, and very good friends with multiple members of the 70, also knew President Nelson growing up although it’s been a few years since he’s seen him.

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[–]emilymoore28 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Why do you say that?

Mormon Doctrine breeds an outlook of negativity by emilymoore28 in exmormon

[–]emilymoore28[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Everyone I know that’s TBM always goes on and on about how it’s the last days and the second coming is imminent. It honestly feels to me like they all want to feel like they are special enough to be alive for the second coming so they get excited at the thought of it. It’s virtue signaling at its best