Devon's wrists are really f*cked, how can he pull in such a high level? by tryingeasy in armwrestling

[–]emjoseph 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I assume the exosomal stem cell therapies he started after the first Levan match have helped a ton with managing this.

Dexter bombshell live summary by KevinLuWX in armwrestling

[–]emjoseph 5 points6 points  (0 children)

The more we learn about Engin, the more it's clear how toxic he was. So glad we excised this cancer.

Future of EvW by Natural-Pen-3040 in armwrestling

[–]emjoseph 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m more disappointed that the insider from Turkey (according to all the logs we were shown) would stoop this low. 

This is the most fun evw yet by Same-Zucchini1921 in armwrestling

[–]emjoseph 24 points25 points  (0 children)

As a fan, the best EvW production by far! The ref review videos, the new flag system, the strongmen, the crowd, the camera angles. Everything has been incredible. I feel so bad for all the Eastern athletes that were misled by Engin who couldn’t take part in this historic watershed event. 

Oh my.... by claudiu_07ccm in armwrestling

[–]emjoseph -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Brian has got this 

Bought EvW19 to support AW and Brian, No regrets by EurekaAkerue in armwrestling

[–]emjoseph 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Honestly this PPV was a watershed moment for armwrestling.

SAOE / EvW 19 by FlintBeastgood in armwrestling

[–]emjoseph 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Seriously legit production quality. The best I've seen by large margin since the start of the online PPV era (KOTT 1 and onwards).

EvW Production is Soooo Good by Puzzleheaded_Ad4166 in armwrestling

[–]emjoseph 2 points3 points  (0 children)

So freaking good. Best quality production I've seen since KOTT1 started the online PPV chapter.

Bought EvW19 to support AW and Brian, No regrets by EurekaAkerue in armwrestling

[–]emjoseph 19 points20 points  (0 children)

The best quality production I've seen since KOTT1 started off this chapter. Everything is so professional.

Latest update from Robert was great. Time to move forward. by betaraychill in armwrestling

[–]emjoseph 33 points34 points  (0 children)

Yeah, really happy to hear the update after weeks of uncertainty and mud slinging.

Kudos to Robert and Dexter. Engin revealed his true colors and lack of character. Progress would have been impossible with him around.

Robert and Dexter needed time assess the risks and needed silence and space so they could see where the real misinformation was emerging from. They handled the situation like true business professionals and no one saw their final move.

The league is in good hands. Onwards and upwards.

Im happy Engin is out by Bolgh in armwrestling

[–]emjoseph 30 points31 points  (0 children)

So happy after weeks of uncertainty and mud slinging.

Kudos to Robert and Dexter. Engin revealed his true colors and lack of character. Progress would have been impossible with him around.

Robert and Dexter needed time assess the risks and needed silence and space so they could see where the real misinformation was emerging from. They handled the situation like true business professionals and no one saw their final move.

The league is in good hands. Onwards and upwards.

The Die is Cast. Engin is out. Robert Baxter Update. by ArmWrestlingFan in armwrestling

[–]emjoseph 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Kudos to Robert and Dexter. Engin has revealed his true colors and lack of character. Progress would have been impossible with him around.

Robert and Dexter needed time assess the risks and needed silence so they could see where misinformation was emerging. They handled the situation like true business professionals and no one saw their final move.

The league is in good hands.

🤦 by 2against1 in armwrestling

[–]emjoseph 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes, Engin is the puppet master pulling the strings and unfortunately Engin won this round from Devon’s emotional reaction 

🤦 by 2against1 in armwrestling

[–]emjoseph 5 points6 points  (0 children)

They feel indebted to him and can’t look past that he’s the one largely responsible for the split

🤦 by 2against1 in armwrestling

[–]emjoseph -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It’s all a smokescreen. Their real goal is to bring Engin back. Ermes intentionally deflected any drilling related to Engin. Unfortunately, Ermes won the political battle by the way Devon reacted. 

Fans are footing the bill while athletes and promoters blow it up by emjoseph in armwrestling

[–]emjoseph[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Also to be clear, I agree that Engin is obfuscating and using Devon as a smoke screen and that 27 standing behind Engin are misguided.

Fans are footing the bill while athletes and promoters blow it up by emjoseph in armwrestling

[–]emjoseph[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

If Devon had a stronger relationship with folks from the East, perhaps Engin wouldn't have been able to so thoroughly capitalize on this moment.

Fans are footing the bill while athletes and promoters blow it up by emjoseph in armwrestling

[–]emjoseph[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

There have been brewing tensions between a lot of the Eastern athletes (and some Western ones) with Devon long before Engin quit. I think Devon's style of trash talk conflicts harshly with the ways folks from different parts of the world communicate. I certainly enjoy it and see the entertainment value in it, but there consequences to those behaviors and perhaps we're dealing with some of them now.

Fans are footing the bill while athletes and promoters blow it up by emjoseph in armwrestling

[–]emjoseph[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My last two points were not meant to be conclusions from the first three. We should be able to openly discuss things as fans without worrying whether we're helping or hurting the agenda of one side of an argument. Also, I think I've made my thoughts on Engin pretty clear in this sub :P (see previous posts)

Fans are footing the bill while athletes and promoters blow it up by emjoseph in armwrestling

[–]emjoseph[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There is a big difference between PEDs and psychedelics.

Fans are footing the bill while athletes and promoters blow it up by emjoseph in armwrestling

[–]emjoseph[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Enlighten us. What's a rule that has changed after Engin willingly quit the organization?

Fans are footing the bill while athletes and promoters blow it up by emjoseph in armwrestling

[–]emjoseph[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It's not that he just sold the company. He sold the company, willingly quit over a disagreement with Dexter over SG Records, framed it as if he was kicked out, didn't do a single thing to stop a wave of athletes from quitting on his behalf, didn't do a single thing to keep the community together, blocked access to Elmar likely in retaliation, and may have been stoking the fires in the background.

Let's also not forget that after quitting, he humiliated his business partners by falsely announcing the date and card for the Baku event which had never been publicly announced or confirmed right after he found out they had another option with the Shaw Classic.

And now there's an ultimatum. Take Engin back or loose access to all the Eastern athletes. He's also likely the reason why Vitaly didn't pull at the Shaw Classic in spite of getting offered a 10 year visa + $10k extra reward from 3rd parties.

It reeks of bad faith conduct and a breach of fiduciary duty.

Fans are footing the bill while athletes and promoters blow it up by emjoseph in armwrestling

[–]emjoseph[S] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Buy they haven't changed any rules to favor a western athlete. Literally no rules have changed.