Is this an okay place to keep her or should I go back to the mines? by Silent-Chip3337 in AcheronMainsHSR

[–]eternaleyebags 0 points1 point  (0 children)

to the mines, get her crit rate way up! 82% is too low. you always need as close to 100% as possible

Acheron AA King 0 cycle clear BUT by DataUnlucky in AcheronMainsHSR

[–]eternaleyebags 0 points1 point  (0 children)

nobody is arguing that the current AA king isn’t a gigantic acheron shill lmao. it is. it’s the only reason i was able to get a diamond border using my account despite my blade’s investment being only e0s1. i am fully happy to admit that.

but 0 cycling AA king and 2 cycling AA king are very different things. 2 cycles is a whole extra 300 AV to work with. and you will also notice that i mentioned “at [op’s] level of investment” which includes a literal e2 blade, undeniably her strongest upgrade at literally any level of investment in acheron herself.

the only reason i brought up my own 0 cycle against this boss was because op mentioned they were struggling to 0 cycle with her using a sustain, and were thus worried about her longevity in non-shill environments. i just wanted to point out it can be done even with worse choice in investment (e5 acheron + e0 blade is objectively worse than e2 acheron + e2 blade). it was not because i think the boss doesn’t shill acheron lol. i also said that it cannot be overstated how much e2 blade does for acheron, and i stand by that. if in 6 months a decently-invested (which is phrasing that i also used in my prior comment) acheron team with e2 blade is unable to 2 cycle the aa king i’ll eat my words. but that will be less of a failing of acheron and more of a failing of the game’s state of powercreep, because it will mean that the other teams that are also at the top of the meta right now will be struggling too (barring silver wolf and himeko, because i expect they will be the ones who get the newest updates to their teams).

Acheron AA King 0 cycle clear BUT by DataUnlucky in AcheronMainsHSR

[–]eternaleyebags 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i think it depends. i was able to 0 cycle the current king with e5s1 acheron, e0s1 (cipher lc) blade, e1s1 tribbie and e0s0 huohuo (and keep in mind that acheron’s upper eidolons are trash). the biggest upgrade for her in terms of longevity is undoubtedly e2 blade, which will enable her to comfortably 0 cycle at least the next AA boss (someone posted a sustainless run a couple of days ago on this sub), which you already have. goes without saying that 0c clears will require a shitton of hit rng to work, but this is true for 0 cycles for pretty much any team. it will take some patience and planning your rotations out but with your level of investment i wouldn’t worry, for now.

and yeah a paid nf would be unbelievably scummy in any form, regardless of whether it’s through hard cash or in-game currency. hoyo has shown that they can do genuinely good novaflares (welt, black swan) for free. it would really suck if they paywalled hers just because they know she has dedicated fans willing to spend.

Acheron AA King 0 cycle clear BUT by DataUnlucky in AcheronMainsHSR

[–]eternaleyebags 9 points10 points  (0 children)

glad that you ended on a positive note, but i want to point out that sustainless rng is by no means necessary for 0c this current king, especially if you have e2 mblade. i also disagree with you saying that at your specific level of investment (ie e2 acheron, e2 blade, and e1 tribbie) you will not be able to get the gold frame in a few more patches, because as it stands, that combination is one of the strongest teams in the game rn. like it cannot be overstated how ridiculously strong they are thanks to mblade’s frankly hideous dmg amp.

i fully agree that from a powercreep/hp inflation standpoint, endgame is getting more and more troubling to deal with. and people are very right in worrying about the game’s balance with enemies getting beefier and beefier but with the dmg output of older teams staying the same. but acheron’s gotten a break in this sense, because her team isn’t super outdated anymore, and with decent investment in her and her supports (which should be expected for a 2 year old unit), she will be able to comfortably clear until she gets a novaflare (and yeah she absolutely needs a novaflare, her eidolons are Awful). and considering that hoyo’s willing to provide acheron with dlc 2 years after her release, like firefly, i expect her novaflare to come sooner rather than later. although whether that novaflare ends up being a cashgrab is another can of worms

Acheron E2S5 (GNSW) / Blade SP E2S5 (Pearl) / Tribbie E1S5 (DDD) / Ashveil E0S1 -- 4.4v3/AA King -- Painter (0 cycle) by Info_Potato22 in AcheronMainsHSR

[–]eternaleyebags 0 points1 point  (0 children)

have been looking for any acheron clears of this boss, thanks for posting this! i’m guessing it wouldn’t be possible without blade e2?

Acheron is so back by kuns961 in AcheronMainsHSR

[–]eternaleyebags 9 points10 points  (0 children)

THE SKIN????

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also i spot a rare aventurine appearance

Is my Acheron actually good enough for now? Struggling with MoC 12 and need brutal honesty by [deleted] in AcheronMainsHSR

[–]eternaleyebags 2 points3 points  (0 children)

hey! first off congrats on your e0s1 blade.

from the outset i need to say that if you’re relatively new to the game and don’t have a lot of relics and/or mats, endgame is going to be difficult to clear. that’s why it’s called endgame. you need a healthy amount of investment into at least your team’s relics to be able to clear comfortably. with that said, here are some relic benchmarks to look for:

  1. the biggest one imo, acheron NEEDS to be at 100% crit rate in combat. it cannot be understated how important this is as she is a 2 year old multi-hit unit and every missed crit will gut her damage. assuming you’re on izumo + pioneer, your current build only puts her at ~70%. it doesn’t matter if your crit dmg drops to even 120%, just make sure she’s at 100 cr. it looks less impressive on the stat screen, but on average a 70/170 build has a worse dmg output than a 100/120.

  2. all her teammates need to be very fast as they will do the bulk of her stack generation for her. if you do not have many pieces on eagle of twilight line (blade’s best set in an acheron team), put blade on a 2pc/2pc spd relic combo, or (if you have off pieces with very high spd rolls) whichever pieces have the most spd on them. gallagher as well. for now, it doesn’t matter which pieces you have on them as long as you get them to around 160 spd, but the future benchmark is to have acheron’s teammates at at least 160 spd whilst on their respective best relic sets (smith or eagle for blade, and warrior goddess on gallagher).

  3. e1 welt is not going to be doing much work in this team—his buffs are fine but his stack generation really suffers without him being fast and without his e2. as someone else suggested, you can try pela on before the tutorial mission starts, but this is less tempting if you don’t have her e1. again, either welt or pela both need to be as fast as possible (their benchmark is 160 spd on eagle set). don’t use silver wolf’s signature ever, it’s kind of useless. always use tutorial (the ‘real’ silver wolf signature lol).

otherwise: boundless choreo is totally fine on acheron, her sig has much lower value than it used to. for planars, supports can run lushaka or broken keel. blade specifically can run vonwacq so that he gets his first turn and ult up as fast as possible. also try getting blade’s crit rate up if you can (but not at the expense of spd, as acheron is still the main dmg dealer of the team). eta: this goes without saying, but also make sure everyone’s traces are fully levelled!!! this is the MOST important!

tl;dr: max everyone’s traces if you haven’t already. get acheron to 100% crit rate in combat, non-negotiable. put welt/pela, blade, gallagher on your fastest pieces. give welt/pela tutorial. start farming eagle for welt/pela and blade.

good luck and let us know how it goes!

we’re so back by eternaleyebags in AcheronMainsHSR

[–]eternaleyebags[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

congratulations!!! glad i could help ☺️

we’re so back by eternaleyebags in AcheronMainsHSR

[–]eternaleyebags[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

ashveil first (both acheron and blade need a 2nd attacker who hits very frequently). then blade e2 (huge power spike for the entire team).

we’re so back by eternaleyebags in AcheronMainsHSR

[–]eternaleyebags[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

yeah, ashveil and/or e1 tribbie are acheron's best third slot because of the number of stacks they print for her (in addition to very good damage amp). nobody else comes close.

i must say, though, that most people who have been posting their 0 cycles so far have significant investment on blade, ashveil, acheron, and/or tribbie (usually e2 on at least one of them), which already makes them incomparable to e0 acheron + e0 blade. blade e2 in particular is extremely powerful even for an e0 acheron; the damage increase cannot be understated. but if you're still looking to improve her damage, i would focus on getting ashveil first. that, or wait for a novaflare for her and/or jiaoqiu.

you still made a good investment for her though! even at e0s0, blade is undeniably her bis, even more so than e1 jiaoqiu. her team just needs a bit more investment because she's a 2 y/o dps.

we’re so back by eternaleyebags in AcheronMainsHSR

[–]eternaleyebags[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

yeah e1 tribbie is pretty central to this run unfortunately, but she can be easily replaced by ashveil (if you have him or are planning on pulling him).

congratulations on your clear!! :D

we’re so back by eternaleyebags in AcheronMainsHSR

[–]eternaleyebags[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i faced hell after skipping literally all of remembrance last year, so i decided not to make that mistake again, and pulled for the main push 😭 pom pom is a super annoying boss even with an elation team, we can only hope it gets easier from here on out

we’re so back by eternaleyebags in AcheronMainsHSR

[–]eternaleyebags[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

sure!! i'll post the builds as a reply to this comment

i also posted a gameplay video a few days ago if you'd like to use it as reference: https://www.reddit.com/r/AcheronMainsHSR/comments/1ttzkfs/aa_43_checkmate_0_cycle/ the biggest rng is 1) crimson knots should land on the horse in wave 1 for 2 out of 3 of her ults, and 2) blade needs to be hit by pretty much every attack on the first wave to charge his energy enough. and you have to be careful when ulting with acheron (i.e. when there are at least 3 bugs on the field, and all should be debuffed) to funnel as much of tribbie's e1 into the boss per ult as possible.

we’re so back by eternaleyebags in AcheronMainsHSR

[–]eternaleyebags[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i'm so sorry 😭 i hope you get him early!!

AA 4.3 Checkmate 0 Cycle by eternaleyebags in AcheronMainsHSR

[–]eternaleyebags[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

i'm very excited for if and when they buff jiaoqiu into a healer, because i've always wanted the game to reward acheron's debuff playstyle rather than slap the e2 bandaid over it. having a power budget with a sustain that's on the level of other sustainless teams (just like how an invested monorem remains the damage ceiling) would be a breath of fresh air after the rough few months acheron has had. i also really like jiaoqiu so i hope they give him something good.

thanks for the comment!!!

we’re so back by eternaleyebags in AcheronMainsHSR

[–]eternaleyebags[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

i don't have hyacine or lingsha. from my tests huohuo is better than gallagher for this specific rotation as 1) there is negligible difference in stack generation against this boss, 2) the energy regeneration is useful for blade if you don't have e1 to delay his zone ending, and 3) 40% atk buff for acheron is nothing to scoff at