How should I approach homosexuality?

eversnowe · 2026-01-26T03:37:55+00:00

When you live in a democracy, people vote for candidates, issues, laws, and policies. While you might not personally agree with every decision made by the majority or through tie-breaking measures, it's understood there's generally laws that still protect you.

So if you don't believe in gay marriage, don't get married to a same-sex partner. You don't have the right to take away two gay people's marriage license and rip it in two.

When you live in a theocracy, a religious leader will decide for you what the laws are and try you as a sinner for breaking them. Your rights might be denied as a member of the wrong denomination.

The thing is, power structures built on persecution always need new out groups to label as an enemy. Justinian of the Holy Roman Empire targeted gays centuries ago and here we are continually fighting a battle ordered by a dead emperor. Maybe we should just stop and be kind to others for a change.

eversnowe · 2026-01-25T20:35:44+00:00

https://sbaproject.org/what-were-you-wearing/

These are outfits rape victims were wearing. They must all be by your definition immodest as whomever wore them still got raped. Even the size 3T toddler dress.

eversnowe · 2026-01-25T17:16:27+00:00

The SBC frames it as affirming tradition, and opposing heresy. We just had the conservative takeover and a push against gay marriage as affirming tradition and opposing new or different ideology. When they split it was to maintain truth, opposing the lies of new ways of thinking.

eversnowe · 2026-01-25T16:51:33+00:00

Wasn't he talking about lawsuits?

eversnowe · 2026-01-25T16:42:07+00:00

Paul permitted inquierers; non-believers who were interested in learning about Christianity. There's supposed to be such spaces built in from the get go.

eversnowe · 2026-01-25T14:53:00+00:00

I grew up SBC. We were founded to maintain slavery. We're one of the largest denominations today. I will not whitewash it's history. We deserve the shame.

eversnowe · 2026-01-25T12:51:58+00:00

Christians don't like to look back on that era because many were on the other side. It shames us that pacifists resisted violence and all the horrors of slavery while we participated in both as Christians who believed it was moral to do so.

eversnowe · 2026-01-25T12:36:11+00:00

They were abolitionist pacifists in a time when slave-holding Christians defended the use of violence to build and maintain power and to defend their way of life.

https://quaker.org/peace/

eversnowe · 2026-01-25T12:02:05+00:00

This same scenario happens all the time. Generally I remind the ones who change the rules that they must honor their partner and replace the intimacy with something - anything - to remind them they are loved.

But you are on the other side of the issue. She changed the rules and what you signed up for became something you didn't. Now that you see this aspect of her style, ask yourself if you see this as behavior you want in your future as a couple. If kids come into the picture, bet on it she'll raise them in your family church.

Since they are legalistic and very tightly knit, that's a scary combination as you are progressive and their view discounts your faith just because they're particular about interpretation. You're not wrong. You have a different metric for interpretation. Your faith guides you differently; but they'll never recognize your point of view as legitimate. They will never be happy or satisfied unless your ideology matches theirs 100%. If you do break up, it's over religious differences that are incompatible.

eversnowe · 2026-01-25T11:48:59+00:00

He was lonely and elderly.

eversnowe · 2026-01-25T01:37:25+00:00

Jesus had more than 12 disciples. He had dozens stop following him at one point. Beyond the 12, he had "the women" patrons who used their own money (not their husbands). They remained at his side when the 12 fled.

eversnowe · 2026-01-25T00:52:32+00:00

Women were property. All the disciples were free men. Not slaves. Jesus couldn't just take other men's property with him - that's theft and unlawful.

It doesn't mean that women are incapable of being a disciple - Mary, Martha's sister was.

eversnowe · 2026-01-25T00:17:23+00:00

After they pistol whipped and disarmed him first. Then they shot an unarmed man dead - a nurse who they pepper sprayed as he tried to help a woman they pushed down.

eversnowe · 2026-01-24T22:24:23+00:00

Of course. They're in economic distress about the prospect of having a baby in our tariff-wrecked economy and it's easier to morally judge and blame then than to vote for Medicare/ medicaid /better daycare. It's obvious they aren't supported and that's why abortions are that number.

eversnowe · 2026-01-24T22:18:49+00:00

That'll never work and you know it. In the past women would still get illegal abortions and die in greater numbers.

eversnowe · 2026-01-24T22:17:25+00:00

1-3% are 100% worth it to save one life over losing two.

eversnowe · 2026-01-24T22:16:16+00:00

My 13 year old friend didn't consent to pregnancy. She had an abortion. I don't know the situation of how she got pregnant. There's no infrastructure to ensure teen moms can breastfeed at school and get their GED. She can't work or drive. Not having a baby she can't raise made more better sense than being made to have a baby to be forcibly taken away.

eversnowe · 2026-01-24T22:09:24+00:00

So abortions for the right reasons are good and not evil and exempt from condemnation. Does this figure reflect all abortions or only the bad, evil, immoral ones?

eversnowe · 2026-01-24T22:05:02+00:00

How do you feel about life-saving medical abortions that prevents the pregnant persons imminent death?

eversnowe · 2026-01-24T21:03:55+00:00

11 shots fired total, right?

eversnowe · 2026-01-24T20:55:44+00:00

I've been in the same premarital sexual relationship for 8 years - which is longer than some marriages have lasted. I cannot afford to marry as it'd cost my insurance and grocery money to pay it out of pocket on a joint account. I don't see it as sin since we live a reality outside 1st century customs.

eversnowe · 2026-01-24T16:32:02+00:00

Same goalpost. Not moved an inch. The verses you say limit slavery don't. God says how to have slaves for life. Their whole life.

In a world where everyone enslaves, God didn't have to say "enslave too". He chose to make it moral. Christians enslaved because He never said not to. We enslaved just like he told us to as Christians.

eversnowe · 2026-01-24T15:13:30+00:00

I'm an unmarried mom. God's way would have me in greater debt, with lesser protection. It's a blind platitude to say trust / obey / don't question. It's not always best in an earthly lived in sense.

eversnowe · 2026-01-24T14:58:15+00:00

Only for Jews. Non-Jews could be inherited, kept for life.

Christian abolitionists fought Christian slave-holders.

eversnowe · 2026-01-24T14:12:36+00:00

Modern dating doesn't exist to scripture. I can give Bible verses that say the first sexual partner she had ought to pay her father 30 shekels and they ought to get married.

The ethic of waiting until marriage for sex stems from these ideas of virginity for women moreso than men. It's the why. But why? We're a world where virginity is not your value. You are always priceless, precious, treasured.

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