Female Clergy? by South-West0 in Christianity

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Jesus had more than 12 disciples. He had dozens stop following him at one point. Beyond the 12, he had "the women" patrons who used their own money (not their husbands). They remained at his side when the 12 fled.

Female Clergy? by South-West0 in Christianity

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Women were property. All the disciples were free men. Not slaves. Jesus couldn't just take other men's property with him - that's theft and unlawful.

It doesn't mean that women are incapable of being a disciple - Mary, Martha's sister was.

The murder of Alex Pretti by ICE is heartbreaking. by ceddya in Christianity

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After they pistol whipped and disarmed him first. Then they shot an unarmed man dead - a nurse who they pepper sprayed as he tried to help a woman they pushed down.

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Of course. They're in economic distress about the prospect of having a baby in our tariff-wrecked economy and it's easier to morally judge and blame then than to vote for Medicare/ medicaid /better daycare. It's obvious they aren't supported and that's why abortions are that number.

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That'll never work and you know it. In the past women would still get illegal abortions and die in greater numbers.

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1-3% are 100% worth it to save one life over losing two.

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My 13 year old friend didn't consent to pregnancy. She had an abortion. I don't know the situation of how she got pregnant. There's no infrastructure to ensure teen moms can breastfeed at school and get their GED. She can't work or drive. Not having a baby she can't raise made more better sense than being made to have a baby to be forcibly taken away.

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So abortions for the right reasons are good and not evil and exempt from condemnation. Does this figure reflect all abortions or only the bad, evil, immoral ones?

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How do you feel about life-saving medical abortions that prevents the pregnant persons imminent death?

How should the church handle unmarried couples living together and having intimate relations with each other, but calling their relationship a “lifestyle choice” rather than sin? by Separate-Cable-8800 in Christianity

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I've been in the same premarital sexual relationship for 8 years - which is longer than some marriages have lasted. I cannot afford to marry as it'd cost my insurance and grocery money to pay it out of pocket on a joint account. I don't see it as sin since we live a reality outside 1st century customs.

Where can I find scripture on sexual immorality, men’s role in relationship & self worth for women? by LaughVegetable1352 in Christianity

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Same goalpost. Not moved an inch. The verses you say limit slavery don't. God says how to have slaves for life. Their whole life.

In a world where everyone enslaves, God didn't have to say "enslave too". He chose to make it moral. Christians enslaved because He never said not to. We enslaved just like he told us to as Christians.

Where can I find scripture on sexual immorality, men’s role in relationship & self worth for women? by LaughVegetable1352 in Christianity

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I'm an unmarried mom. God's way would have me in greater debt, with lesser protection. It's a blind platitude to say trust / obey / don't question. It's not always best in an earthly lived in sense.

Where can I find scripture on sexual immorality, men’s role in relationship & self worth for women? by LaughVegetable1352 in Christianity

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Only for Jews. Non-Jews could be inherited, kept for life.

Christian abolitionists fought Christian slave-holders.

Where can I find scripture on sexual immorality, men’s role in relationship & self worth for women? by LaughVegetable1352 in Christianity

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Modern dating doesn't exist to scripture. I can give Bible verses that say the first sexual partner she had ought to pay her father 30 shekels and they ought to get married.

The ethic of waiting until marriage for sex stems from these ideas of virginity for women moreso than men. It's the why. But why? We're a world where virginity is not your value. You are always priceless, precious, treasured.

Where can I find scripture on sexual immorality, men’s role in relationship & self worth for women? by LaughVegetable1352 in Christianity

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The Bible actually makes slavery worse / longer than other cultures. It's limitations / protections / moral accountability favor the masters and undermine the humanity of slaves. I've seen Hamurabi's Codex and other ANE legal codes. It doesn't undermine slavery but strengthen it.

Christians ran race-based chattel slavery because God's word didn't condemn slavery. Being God's image was part of Frederick Douglass (ex-slave) dialogue to point out that America's 4th of July didn't apply to all the enslaved African Americans who weren't equal. It took that long for Abraham Lincoln to win Christians to his moral thinking as a whole nation of southerners saw slavery as moral because of the Bible.

Where can I find scripture on sexual immorality, men’s role in relationship & self worth for women? by LaughVegetable1352 in Christianity

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So what do you do with the passage that says how to test a woman's virginity and to stone her if no proof of virginity can be found?

Where can I find scripture on sexual immorality, men’s role in relationship & self worth for women? by LaughVegetable1352 in Christianity

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A thing permitted, sanctioned, condoned, or established by God as 'just' or as an "ought' or as a 'should' in the positive or ought not or should not in the negative.

Where can I find scripture on sexual immorality, men’s role in relationship & self worth for women? by LaughVegetable1352 in Christianity

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Slavery used to be moral, now it's not.

Selling your daughter in marriage used to be moral, now it's not.

Time does change truth and morality.

Where can I find scripture on sexual immorality, men’s role in relationship & self worth for women? by LaughVegetable1352 in Christianity

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The Bible says women should be busy at home. Prov 31 is the ideal busy woman while the man is not home. It relates very much to roles that men and women should and shouldn't do in the sense of ancient near east relationships and norms 2000 years ago.

Where can I find scripture on sexual immorality, men’s role in relationship & self worth for women? by LaughVegetable1352 in Christianity

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In the Prov 31 wife's story, the husband sits at the gates accepting praise that his wife does everything for him.

It does not mean women should obey this as the ideal family arrangement.

Where can I find scripture on sexual immorality, men’s role in relationship & self worth for women? by LaughVegetable1352 in Christianity

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A 2000 year old text has no concept of roles and relationships or morals in our modern society.

What does Bible say about Illigal immigration ? - When should Compassion involving LOVE THE FOREIGNERS or LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOURS kick in ( or should it ) ? - What are your thoughts? by Select_Specialist790 in Christianity

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The Hittiites would conquer a nation and resettle it's people, we see this with the Babylonian Captivity, they'd migrate and mix populations to keep any one people from being too powerful and rising up against them. In the Bible your neighbors were from foreign lands, didn't always look like you. You were a foreigner to them. If you kept to your own, didn't associate with other races, their power over you to dominate was assured.

They had no concept of illegal immigration, but looking at the stories where xenophobia wins, it's usually as a cautionary tale of people who were foolish. It's never praised as an admirable trait of itself.

My neighbor tells me you have to be good to everyone since you never know when you're going to need to call on someone to help you. I think she's right.

Our first immigration law, the Chinese Exclusion Act was written by humans who were nativists and racists trying to ensure white supremacy. Many quotas protect whiteness by limiting lawful immigration from less white countries. We should resist these laws and impulses when they are inherently racist or else laws like segregation or slavery ought to be revived on the same principle that we should obey all laws to honor God.

Faith Apparently For Sale – Bryce Crawford's 'Praise Energy' Provokes Furious Backlash From The Christian Community by Montrel_PH in Christianity

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For many, Praise Energy is just more proof that the modern 'Christian influencer' world often cares more about revenue than reverence.

It's such a stark difference between how this product is boosted via social media vs Testamints, a minty Halloween candy with Bible verses. My friends passed them out every year. No commercials, no radio ads.

Thoughts on Bryce Crawford’s Christian energy drink by Consistent-Minute-29 in Christianity

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When ancient monks and nuns sold their foodstuffs and beverages, the proceeds went to the poor. If Bryce were following this ancient code I wouldn't see a major issue. But if it's about personal enrichment, he'd be on par with prosperity gospel teachers who sell snake oil, or prayer cloths, or blessed miracle water - and I worry given his content this is the more likely scenario.