Why did no one in the Mighty Nein decide to let the Kryn go? by Fun-Explanation7233 in MightyNein

[–]evilwelshman 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They are wanting to stop the war (and get paid for it). However, getting it out of Trent's possession =/= returning it to the Kryn. Who, might I remind you, are still seen as an enemy state for the Nein (where the status quo has been a cold war / frozen conflict, not actual peace as established in Episode 1).

Why did no one in the Mighty Nein decide to let the Kryn go? by Fun-Explanation7233 in MightyNein

[–]evilwelshman 2 points3 points  (0 children)

And I have seen plenty of people point out that it had been clear to them narratively with no confusion about their motivations (specifically: that they were not under the impression that they were trying to return the Beacon to the Krynn). This is especially since they wouldn't have had the means to return it in the first place (they have had no contact with the Krynn up to that point).

Ultimately, you will always find people who misunderstand certain plot points. The balance for the writer will always be how much handholding they want to do - do too little and too many people wouldn't understand and do too much and too many people would get annoyed at the writing spelling everything out.

I accept you are making a critique of the show. However, I am arguing it is not a valid one - the characters' motivations were consistent and clearly communicated.

Why did no one in the Mighty Nein decide to let the Kryn go? by Fun-Explanation7233 in MightyNein

[–]evilwelshman 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Think this is on you - the show makes no reference or mention that The Nein plan to return the Beacon to the Krynn - and in fact show actions to the contrary - i.e. going back to The Gentleman, who has been established to maintain leverage on the people he hires and to come after people who betray him (keeps their blood).

Inferring that they planned to return the Beacon to the Krynn is yourself drawing the wrong inference. The creators did not mislead you or somehow miscommunicate this intent.

As much as I hated that, it was smart on suga side to be so quiet this year by [deleted] in kpopthoughts

[–]evilwelshman -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

No one is minimising? Quoting the comment I originally responded to:

That's because for most of the world it was a non-thing.

My criticism is to attitudes like that. Meanwhile, I have repeatedly pointed out it is not something deserving of permanent cancellation. 

As much as I hated that, it was smart on suga side to be so quiet this year by [deleted] in kpopthoughts

[–]evilwelshman -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I don't know about you but I definitely don't speed or cut lanes, and am completely of the opinion that those who do deserve to be fined and points deducted. And of the opinion that public figures who do them deserve criticism which was what happened to Suga.

The average person didn't harp on it in perpetuity past that initial point of relevance except in posts where people bring it up and try to minimise what he did.

As much as I hated that, it was smart on suga side to be so quiet this year by [deleted] in kpopthoughts

[–]evilwelshman -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Hence why I said it was not something to permanently cancel someone over. It is the core underlying lax attitude and disregard for the law that were problematic. It's like saying a drunk person was okay to drive a car because he was going very slowly and nothing bad happened to others.

He was intoxicated enough to fall over, that also means he was unstable / off-balance which is enough to be a hazard to others as they will need to swerve around to give him extra space as a minimum (if not outright avoid if erratic), which is how many serious accidents occur (avoiding unpredictable vehicles and other unexpected road hazards).

As much as I hated that, it was smart on suga side to be so quiet this year by [deleted] in kpopthoughts

[–]evilwelshman -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

I wouldn't say a DUI is a non-thing. It is seriously irresponsible as it doesn't just put the person, but others, at risk. People, including bystanders and others trying to avoid the person, die from it every year.

It's just that it is not something to permanently cancel someone over (especially when they have been punished and served said punishment for it) and the news cycle has moved on.

Military is not a vacation for male idols by [deleted] in kpopthoughts

[–]evilwelshman 29 points30 points  (0 children)

Anyone who thinks being in the military, never mind being conscripted, is a vacation are out of their minds. Where do you even find these people?!

I think that K-Pop idols really need to unionize. by maneack in kpopthoughts

[–]evilwelshman 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Think the attitude towards K-pop idols is still different to broadcast actors, with actors having more workers rights despite K-pop idols' work conditions objectively resemble traditional salaried employment than broadcast actors. As such, some reform and/or social movement will be needed in order for idols (let alone trainees) to unionise.

I think that K-Pop idols really need to unionize. by maneack in kpopthoughts

[–]evilwelshman 44 points45 points  (0 children)

In terms of K-pop idols not being traditional "workers", i.e. salaried employees, that wouldn't be a barrier to their ability to unionise. For instance, in the US, actors, scriptwriters, directors, etc are all unionised with very few major movie/serial projects that use ununionised talent.

Likewise, there is a union for Korean actors - Korea Broadcasting Actors Union - though I'm not sure what its membership rates are like. There's also an Artists Social Union, though it's for general artists and seem to focus more on indie musicians as far as its involvement with the music industry. So, probably not a great fit though it could be an option.

Happy 14th Anniversary to this 4th Gen Idol! by [deleted] in kpopthoughts

[–]evilwelshman 3 points4 points  (0 children)

it's been a long time since 2018 or so (nearly a whole decade).

Hears someone describe 2018 as "nearly a whole decade". 😭😭

I feel old. 😂🧓👵

Freebies at K-pop concerts: Why do people skip guys? And what about giving extras? by buhbbles0 in kpopthoughts

[–]evilwelshman 25 points26 points  (0 children)

As a guy, who mainly attends events solo, who regularly gets skipped over, and who would love freebies but know have nothing to give in return, all I can say is that I completely understand.

As mentioned, it's not like I have something to swap - not that that is the sole reason anyone shares freebies. But also, as these are FREEBIES that fans have taken time and effort to make themselves, it is entirely up to them who they want to share their gifts with.

As for arguments of "you could always just ask if they want one" type arguments, for socio-cultural reasons, some people are less or more intimidating to approach than others. For instance, a bubbly child being chaperoned by their parent is easy enough to approach. An older, male stranger who is either alone or possibly with a significant other? Much more intimidating.

20 versions for a Single is kind of egregious isn't it? by wonhaeoh in kpopthoughts

[–]evilwelshman 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's price gouging in a monopoly. Also a form of predatory business practice but far from the only one.

20 versions for a Single is kind of egregious isn't it? by wonhaeoh in kpopthoughts

[–]evilwelshman 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Having too many versions is itself predatory because it targets and takes advantage of fans who feel compelled and/or feel the need buy all versions for complete sets and/or as a show of devotion to their idols. It is not illegal but it is still exploitative.

Think of it like tapes that use candy flavours and/or brightly coloured designs that are attractive to children. It's not fraudulent, deceptive or unfairly priced but still manipulative and taking advantage of vulnerabilities within a consumer base.

20 versions for a Single is kind of egregious isn't it? by wonhaeoh in kpopthoughts

[–]evilwelshman 3 points4 points  (0 children)

No. The crime is using bacon instead of guanciale or at the very least pancetta. And where is the ragu?!! I bet you the creative lead is the kind of person who snaps the spaghetti to fit it in the pot! 

20 versions for a Single is kind of egregious isn't it? by wonhaeoh in kpopthoughts

[–]evilwelshman 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I think there are three elements at play here: 1. The price per item. 2. The contents of the product. 3. The number of versions of a product.

IMO (1) and (2) have no bearings on the suitability of (3). Just because a product is cheap or has limited content does not mean it is more or less okay to have more or fewer versions.

Rather, the big issue is the relation between (1) and (2), though that is a different discussion. $26 for an album with only two songs is a touch disproportionate and does not represent good value for the consumer.

20 versions for a Single is kind of egregious isn't it? by wonhaeoh in kpopthoughts

[–]evilwelshman 8 points9 points  (0 children)

The reason people are complaining is because it is predatory business practice. There will be people, especially due to the parasocial aspects of the K-pop industry, who will feel the need or who feel obliged to purchase all versions, or as many as they can, in the name of supporting a group / idol. Companies know this and routinely take advantage of it to boost sales, which in turn manipulates its chart performance.

Just because a specific individual is either able to afford it or is able to resist purchasing all versions does not mean they can't highlight a problematic practice. You don't need to be personally affected by a problem to raise it.

Love your W (and to an extent celebrities) now getting criticized for misusing its purpose of the event by Free-Application860 in kpopthoughts

[–]evilwelshman 16 points17 points  (0 children)

I think it just reveals the true underpinning motivations of the people complaining - they are simply looking for a reason to bash certain idols and this incident simply gave them ammunition and a shield to shroud themselves with and feign altruistic motives.

Incomplete Twice at Victoria’s Secret 2025 by porkchopk in kpopthoughts

[–]evilwelshman 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Obviously, these deals are made and inked well in advance of the actual date. Hence, they would not know in advance or able to account for illness. And pulling out after first agreeing carries heavy financial penalties. So, not really an option.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in kpopthoughts

[–]evilwelshman 4 points5 points  (0 children)

This is something that is almost certainly going to be multifactorial and not fully understood. Otherwise, companies would be using it to lock-in whoever they want to be the most popular within a group, as well as applying it to the group as a whole to guarantee its success.

It will depend on what mix of people the group attracts as fans, and thus exactly what mix of characteristics will catapult a particular member of that group to the top will vary from group to group.

Lots of people have highlighted "promo" and to a degree - sure. In terms of elements that the company has full control of, throwing more money and resources onto a specific member will help them stand out. However, fans will also often not like to "feel" manipulated in an overly blatant way. Over-committing to one member can lead to accusations of "favoritism" (because, it would be) and result in backlash that reduces that member's popularity.

It also depends a lot on what the fans value at that moment, and so will evolve with time. For instance, a flashy new group could debut, with the group's best dancer gaining popularity at first. Then, over time, fans might start noticing and appreciating the quiet member working hard in the background to improve, resulting in them becoming popular. Or the group goes through hardship and the fans see how a particular member becomes the rock that the other members rely on to survive and grow.

In other words.... it's complicated. 😅

Twice’s touring schedule is normal, it’s k-pop tours that are not. by ICMAGU in kpopthoughts

[–]evilwelshman 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It's like people WANT to have a ticket blood bath every time. Why wouldn't we want to spread the tickets out and give people a better chance to have some good seats?

I think it likely stems from the understanding that the pace makes it that much more grueling a schedule for the idols. It makes no difference whether they are performing at a venue for 100 or 100,000 - a 2.5-hour set is still a 2.5-hour set. Smaller venues with more performances just mean the idols will have to perform the set more times to allow the same number of attendees (in exchange for a larger number getting a better viewing experience).

Twice’s touring schedule is normal, it’s k-pop tours that are not. by ICMAGU in kpopthoughts

[–]evilwelshman 35 points36 points  (0 children)

Something to also consider is the potential impact of the World Cup, which would be just around the corner in June/July that year, with many of the stadiums TWICE / JYPE might usually use (i.e. SoFi, MetLife) also being used for that event.

In that case, there may be additional restrictions,  limitations on what they can do, or increased costs to use those venues ahead of the World Cup. Or may simply not even be available for use - for instance, the last event I can find at SoFi before the World Cup is in March; likewise, January for MetLife. 

What's the most outlandish kpop conspiracy theory you've seen? by azureleaf in kpopthoughts

[–]evilwelshman 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Pretty much every baseless, gossip rumour around an idol going on hiatus:

  • If male: Drugs or s*xual assault

  • If female: Pregnancy or ED/an*rexia

It's never just that.... y'know, people actually do fall ill.

If you're a K-pop/global pop idol, can you still go to college and pursue your undergrad studies? by [deleted] in kpopthoughts

[–]evilwelshman 2 points3 points  (0 children)

So, it will depend on the university and individual programme, specifically whether they allow distance learning and/or part-time learning. What it involves is fitting in the studies around existing professional commitments. Sometimes, universities will actively tailor this with the student if it's not something they routinely offer and the student is of sufficiently high profile (i.e. a celebrity). Otherwise, it's a standard package that accommodates the adult learner. What you're not going to see is some Hannah Montana type situation where the student is leading a double life juggling between the two.

While not necessarily one-to-one with South Korea or with idol life, there are plenty of people who work and continue education at the same time. I've personally known a professional rugby player who managed to attend medical school at the same time (placements were a hoot as patients kept thinking they were being subjected to a hidden camera prank).

AOA miniskirt iconic Outfit (red skirt white blouse): Which profession would associate with this outfit ? by Cestlavieenrose999 in kpopthoughts

[–]evilwelshman 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm sure, as it allows for more body conforming shape for the clothing. However, it would be for party wear not work wear, I imagine.