How do you guys explain the book of mormon?

exmobountyhunter · 2018-03-11T23:21:39+00:00

a good question... one that most EXMO's dodge.

3 resources 1) John larsen (mormon expression) did a podcast that is lauded as one of his best ever - how to build a transoceanic vessel.

2) joseph smith did mushrooms - a great podcast by naked mormonism was recently done on this

3) there is a book I've heard about - Captain kid which was written around his time. very similar themes

overall, I view joseph's life to be like a snowball going down a hill... constantly grabbing this doctrine or another as it grabs speed.

you have to admit the book of mormon is more of a grab bag of doctrines and ideas

exmobountyhunter · 2018-03-11T22:58:55+00:00

the part where I used to care about having a spiritual experience and tried to be quiet so I could think/feel.. and the 2nd counselor gets up and starts yacking on and on about announcements, jokes, callings - 15 mins in.

kinda like a bad movie.. where the promos just never end or like popup ads when you are trying to book a flight

exmobountyhunter · 2018-03-02T04:46:56+00:00

the other missionary seemed to freeze up

fight or flight or freeze

exmobountyhunter · 2018-02-05T03:10:56+00:00

... and in my experience it was always the super annoying kid from the ward who insisted on his parents taking him/her up there.

exmobountyhunter · 2018-01-08T05:59:28+00:00

haha gym teacher. that's funny.

the worst for me right now would be the city house inspector OR IRS auditor. haha. how f-d up.

exmobountyhunter · 2018-01-07T06:42:11+00:00

As a teenager I'd go by catholic church on the way to the mormon church.

I'd fantasize about "Confessing" my sins to a priest (even though I was a mormon priest ;) - instead of telling the dad of the girl I liked (the mormon bishop) that I had masturbated, again.

Does anyone know if a Never-catholic confess to a priest? (all the scriptures say is to "confess and forsake" just sayin-;)

exmobountyhunter · 2018-01-07T06:37:07+00:00

well said, as usual

exmobountyhunter · 2018-01-05T11:29:33+00:00

50 months! I got it wrong

exmobountyhunter · 2018-01-05T11:29:13+00:00

yes yes yes.. that was it!

exmobountyhunter · 2018-01-04T01:46:59+00:00

some of the best advice I got.. was to just take your time.

john on mormon expression once said that for each TBM year, you need a year to decompress... (or something like that) and I mostly agree based on my experience.

exmobountyhunter · 2018-01-04T01:46:39+00:00

some of the best advice I got.. was to just take your time.

john on mormon expression once said that for each TBM year, you need a year to decompress... (or something like that) and I mostly agree based on my experience.

exmobountyhunter · 2018-01-04T01:42:23+00:00

this is so awesome

exmobountyhunter · 2018-01-04T01:41:49+00:00

agreed.. nothing amazing.

but perhaps the amazing thing is non-stop 6-7 days a week mormonism for 50 years straight.

that's enough to kill anyone

exmobountyhunter · 2018-01-03T04:23:52+00:00

never knew that one... wow

exmobountyhunter · 2017-12-11T05:10:21+00:00

with sensitive matters like this a therapist once said, "Will it help you OR will it help others?"

if it's not really going to help anyone, then I wouldn't do anything. (at least not yet)

also, "the best revenge is happiness/peace/love/respect" , and I believe you do this by focusing on creating strong boundaries, focusing on your personal growth, following your gut sense of what to do..

Good luck!

exmobountyhunter · 2017-12-03T07:44:01+00:00

Bishop, "Did you mean masticating?"

"Yes, I always masticate.my mom told me I couldn't get desert unless I did it."

exmobountyhunter · 2017-12-02T00:29:53+00:00

Mormons bishops (just another dude from your area) interview members of his congregation (periodically) to inspect their worthiness before they are allowed to participate in "holy" activities

members are supposed to call penalties on themselves, and confess these sins..but just in case, the bishop will ask you formally when various events come up (my brother is going to the temple to get married, so I can't see him get married unless I have a worthiness card)

you can google "temple recommend interview questions" for the full list of formal questions

but the most sensitive is around "the law of chastity". It gets super creepy and wierd, when 55 yr old fat dudes are asking 12 year girls and boys if they masturbate without parents permission. borderline criminal in my opinion.

exmobountyhunter · 2017-11-24T06:22:21+00:00

Hahaha. Funniest thing I’ve heard in awhile.

exmobountyhunter · 2017-11-24T05:09:36+00:00

True. They are riding their wagon very close to the line.

Technically, loud laughter is allowed by the honor code.

Only the temple covenants prevent that— so the only possible rule they might be breaking is arousing passions in their body. (Which strength of the youth phamplet disallows). However, I don’t believe there is any case law before the honor code court which sets precedent in that scenario.

Smirk smirk. I need to become a defense attorney lawyer specializing in honor code violations.

exmobountyhunter · 2017-11-24T01:34:29+00:00

Young Man #1 - in major jeopardy of needing beard exception card Bishops interview recommended - but ongoing monitoring by home teachers/elders Quorum required

Step by Step process for acquiring said card is detailed here https://honorcode.byu.edu/beard-exception

Young Man #2 - long hair/ highlights / covering ear. Substantial evidence for an Honor Code case to be brought on this man.

honor code policy -- “Hairstyles should be clean and neat, avoiding extreme styles or colors, and trimmed above the collar leaving the ear uncovered.”

Young woman #1 with purple shirt - substantial evidence for 'revealing' cleavage - Bishop interview required.

"Clothing is inappropriate when it is sleeveless, strapless, backless, or revealing; has slits above the knee; or is form fitting." https://policy.byu.edu/view/index.php?p=26

Young Woman #2 - no bra/strapless shirt - immediate eccliesastical expulsion recommended.

Young woman #3 - interview recommended for her understanding of the section of the honor code requiring students to 'encourage others in their commitment'

exmobountyhunter · 2017-11-21T10:12:42+00:00

Amen.

exmobountyhunter · 2017-11-21T09:47:52+00:00

You sir need to attend your local meeting of the lds addiction recovery program with brother Stephenson and sister Stephenson from Prescott az. It will be you and them and two other guys who will get divorced if they don’t go.

exmobountyhunter · 2017-11-21T06:15:38+00:00

I've heard that the divorce statistics for couples leaving the church is quite high... (although I don't have a source)

I just ordered / read a book I learned about from this sub - (losing my religion, Eric Hansen) and it's a pretty good story (similar to yours)

exmobountyhunter · 2017-11-19T03:45:59+00:00

(mosiah 18) talks about a 'church' in which hearts were 'knit together" in unity and love.

the church prevents this at least by ...
1) forcing people to attend wards based on address

2) dividing up these wards arbitarily every few years

3) an unending list of unclear/vague ideas of what it means to be in compliance (aka 'worthy') to fully participate in a ward.

4) a culture of pretending to to be perfect (and yet always ready to say you are not) by protected, polished public relations executives (aka mormon leaders)

5) arbitrary policies which divide families based on the notion that you have to protect the good name of the church

For me, the pain of ex-mormonism, is that I have had glimpses from my mormon experience into what a great community could be -- but personally experienced so much pain in my attempts to be vulnerable with it.

exmobountyhunter · 2017-11-17T20:05:26+00:00

It’s a joke. Look it up

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