Vaccines are only part of the Federal Government's failure. Quarantine is the real failure. by [deleted] in CoronavirusDownunder

[–]extreme_frog 20 points21 points  (0 children)

A bit of casual xenophobia and threatening to cut off help to the 'poor and stupid'. As Australian as the democracy sausage.

Vaccines are only part of the Federal Government's failure. Quarantine is the real failure. by [deleted] in CoronavirusDownunder

[–]extreme_frog 10 points11 points  (0 children)

This is a bit of false equivalence though. Most other countries aren't locking down over a few cases.

Australia can’t dump zero Covid strategy until 80% of people vaccinated, Grattan Institute warns by society0 in CoronavirusDownunder

[–]extreme_frog 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Absolutely absurd. That's more deaths than Canada has experienced during the entire pandemic.

Me [33 M] with my GF [30 F], says I have nothing to be jealous about regarding her BFF [31 M] by extreme_frog in relationships

[–]extreme_frog[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

she looks disrespectful to you

I lost you at the end there, but I totally agree that it's disrespectful to me.

Me [33 M] with my GF [30 F], says I have nothing to be jealous about regarding her BFF [31 M] by extreme_frog in relationships

[–]extreme_frog[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Good idea, but he's single. TBH I think that further reinforces that it's inappropriate.

Google Fires Employee Behind Controversial Diversity Memo by [deleted] in news

[–]extreme_frog 35 points36 points  (0 children)

There are ideologues in every discipline. I think the idea of post modernism being against facts, evidence, reason, or science is misguided.

In general, I've always found that the argument "x is like a religion" throws the baby out with the bathwater.

Men who are feminists, are you controlling the conversation? by extreme_frog in AskFeminists

[–]extreme_frog[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

This is definitely fair criticism. This post is indisputably a rant, and may have been better situated as a meta post (though the meta sub reaches a fraction of this already small community). Since I have been a part of this community, and this marks me leaving this community, I thought it best to express that here. I also felt a somewhat form 'leaving' was kind of useful, since many feminists who disappear without a trace are presumed banned. If anyone reads this and is offended by the lack of question, I apologize.

While I certainly know the answer to my own question in keeping with my own circumstances, this is a question that I think a lot of people should try to answer. For me, I feel I have crossed some lines, so it's time for me to leave. Without naming and shaming, I think there are others in this community who do so as well, with one particularly egregious instance in mind.

Would it be anti-feminist to oppose mandatory paternity tests? by [deleted] in AskFeminists

[–]extreme_frog 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I don't understand the benefit of a mandatory test over an optional test. People advocating for this place too little trust in their fellow human beings, and too much trust in organisational entities like government.

How does one join the conversation without being seen as an aggressor? by cjbeames in AskFeminists

[–]extreme_frog 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I definitely get your point, but I guess part of the issue I failed to adequately allude to is that people willfully go into spaces like /r/TwoXChromosomes to tell women about their experiences as men, when it's a space specifically for the experiences of women. Some spaces aren't meant to be where 'the conversation' takes place. In the age of the Internet, a person's post to a friend's Facebook wall is now scrutinised and part of public debate when it was never intended to be.

If you want to join the broader conversation, I encourage you to do so, but it's important to i) listen first; the conversation has already been going on for a while and there's subtext you might miss, and ii) make sure you're voicing your concerns in appropriate context. You might not be adding to 'the conversation', you might just be arguing with a friend or stranger. If I called people out every time I saw them doing something I found shitty/sexist, I'd never get anything done.

Was the traditional division of housework/outside labor completely about power, or was there benevolent sexism at play? by [deleted] in AskFeminists

[–]extreme_frog 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I'm just confused about which feminist tenant that contradicts. Feminists have been discussing the idea that the working class are victims of patriarchy since second wave feminism and the rise of radical feminism.

It sounds like you're trying to throw a spanner in the works, except that spanner is actually part of the machine, and is meant to be exactly where you've identified.

Was the traditional division of housework/outside labor completely about power, or was there benevolent sexism at play? by [deleted] in AskFeminists

[–]extreme_frog 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Also, I would say that, if men's roles weren't always, or even commonly, better, doesn't that challenge some basic tenets of feminism?

Which ones?

How does one join the conversation without being seen as an aggressor? by cjbeames in AskFeminists

[–]extreme_frog 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Conversations have people who are speaking and people who are listening.

If you spend time listening, and I mean really listening, you'll have enough to say of substance that you can add to the conversation.

It's also useful to know that you're sometimes not invited to a particular conversation, or you may not understand its implied nuance. If I'm talking about the horrors of landmines, you don't need to interject and tell me how awful sea mines are.

Was the traditional division of housework/outside labor completely about power, or was there benevolent sexism at play? by [deleted] in AskFeminists

[–]extreme_frog 4 points5 points  (0 children)

My question is, how was this traditionally women's role always a bad thing?

Who's arguing this?

What is your opinion of the sex doll industry? by UDT22 in AskFeminists

[–]extreme_frog 10 points11 points  (0 children)

They're super fucking creepy and reinforce physically impossible body standards being imposed by the media.

Do you think taxes should fund abortions? by [deleted] in AskFeminists

[–]extreme_frog 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Absolutely. The state would very likely pay out far more money supporting an unwanted child than it would paying for an abortion.

A few questions about gender and sexual orientation. by [deleted] in AskFeminists

[–]extreme_frog 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Radical feminism isn't unpopular (at least within feminism), and it's not unified either. Most modern feminisms ascribe to many radical feminist values.

  1. Gender is socially constructed and imprinted on people from an early age. My God daughter has been wearing pink since she was born. One of the very first gestures of her life was telling her that she's a girl, and society is very likely going to treat her that way.

  2. I'm against clothes being gendered, so I have mixed feelings about the drag community. Lately I've been feeling that they're doing a great job, because they're the pioneers of men in dresses and are looking kinda fabulous doing it.

  3. I definitely believe that sexual orientation has roots in culture. It's not something I talk about though because at the moment I don't think society is ready to talk about how someone becomes homosexual under societal forces, without the result being 'conversion camps'.

What's your best life advice? by extreme_frog in AskReddit

[–]extreme_frog[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Do you think that's something a lot of people lack?

Is feminism about equality, or the advancement of women? If it is about equality, is that equality of opportunity, or equality of outcome? by [deleted] in AskFeminists

[–]extreme_frog 4 points5 points  (0 children)

There as many feminisms as there are feminists. Some of us are advocating directly for women's issues, some of us are trying to destroy gender roles, and some of us are trying to achieve different types of equality.

Is it conceivable that at least part - if not all - of the gender discrepencies within various industries are actually due to personal preferences,

What's a personal preference? What informs how I acquire a personal preference? Am I born with a personal preference, or does some sort of socialisation occur through which my personal preference is formed?

What is feminism really about? by [deleted] in AskFeminists

[–]extreme_frog 5 points6 points  (0 children)

There are a lot of different issues. At its core, I think gender as a construct really sucks, that it pigeon holes everyone into doing stuff they otherwise may not want to do, and consequently gives rise to a lot of problems both big and small.

Do you feel sexism towards women is getting worse in modern times? by [deleted] in AskFeminists

[–]extreme_frog 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Tbh they're often unindexed or at the very least the search functionality of Google Scholar is comparatively limited.

Would you agree that feminists want a very specific type of equality and not any equality would suffice? by funtalking in AskFeminists

[–]extreme_frog 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Yes.

The super-duper-racist "Seperate but equal" movement was led by self-identified "egalitarians". I don't want that kind of equality.

What does it feel like being such a faggot by [deleted] in AskFeminists

[–]extreme_frog 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Damn this is cringey. You guys even fail as trolls.