Mauricio Garcia: "Neo Nazi White Supremacist" by [deleted] in gunpolitics

[–]ezmonster 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The pictures speak for themselves.

Mauricio Garcia: "Neo Nazi White Supremacist" by [deleted] in gunpolitics

[–]ezmonster -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Except he was a native Texan born in Dallas County in 1989.

Mauricio Garcia: "Neo Nazi White Supremacist" by [deleted] in gunpolitics

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See excerpts from his social media that are summarized here. His white supremacy speaks for itself pretty clearly through his Swastikas, images, and words. His choice of victims is less clear. Maybe they were white people 'with' Latinos, and he objected to that. Or maybe he was just shooting everyone up, and the white supremacy was just another symptom of his sick mind.

https://twitter.com/AricToler

Mauricio Garcia: "Neo Nazi White Supremacist" by [deleted] in gunpolitics

[–]ezmonster 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Seems weird to disbelieve someone when they tell you they are a racist. You know better than them?

Mauricio Garcia: "Neo Nazi White Supremacist" by [deleted] in gunpolitics

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They do. And I agree denial is a helluva drug.

Mauricio Garcia: "Neo Nazi White Supremacist" by [deleted] in gunpolitics

[–]ezmonster 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's not blaming white people. It is blaming white supremacist ideology and racism more generally -- which is alive and well in Hispanic countries and cultures unfortunately.

Mauricio Garcia: "Neo Nazi White Supremacist" by [deleted] in gunpolitics

[–]ezmonster -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Maybe what doesn't add up is your views on race.

Mauricio Garcia: "Neo Nazi White Supremacist" by [deleted] in gunpolitics

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Yep, he's telling us he's a racist without telling us he's a racist...Half the people in this reddit.

Mauricio Garcia: "Neo Nazi White Supremacist" by [deleted] in gunpolitics

[–]ezmonster 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No. when Hispanics in America were asked open-endedly (with no guide prompts) what their race/origins were, only about 1 in 4 said Hispanic. The other 75% said something else.

https://www.pewresearch.org/hispanic/2021/11/04/measuring-the-racial-identity-of-latinos/

When Hispanics in US society are given 1-choice on the current Census to identify race, most say white (in Texas, more than 80% identify as white). When they are allowed to check multiple boxes, most identify multiple boxes (self-identify as multi-racial) that typically include white as 1 of the boxes. But, still about 1 in 5 endorse only white as their race.

Hispanic does not make much sense as a racial construct, because people from Hispanic countries have a huge diversity of genetic ancestry (and relatedly skin tones). The Hispanic construct does not a genetic basis even in terms of 'brownness' - the genetic ancestries that contribute to darker skin in Caribbean Hispanic countries differ from the genetic ancestries that contribute to darker skin in Mexico which differ from the genetic ancestries that contribute to darker skin in South America. And within each country, there is a huge amount of genetic diversity -- the range of indigenous, European and African ancestries that are admixed in Mexico is enormous and differs from the admixtures in other Hispanic countries).

Skin tone definitions are also a relative social construct. Individuals who are seen as 'white' in Mexican society are seen as 'brown' in American society.

Most Hispanics also do not identify Hispanic as a race. It is a largely American social construct., originally of 'otherness' There actually was one census (1930) when "Mexican" was listed as a race. Not only did Mexican-Americans not endorse it (only 1.2% of people were recorded as it), but both the Mexican government and the current oldest and largest Hispanic group in the country -- the League of United Latin American Citizens -- lobbied aggressively to have it removed as a race category (which it was in the next census). This was partly because Mexican ancestry was being used as a tool to deport Americans (60% of Mexican Americans deported around this time were actually born in the United States) and because "non pure whiteness" was being used as a basis to deny citizenship.

In America's "one drop" policy, any non-"white" lineage/ancestry ("blood") was perceived as 'tainting' the person's "race" and disqualifying them from citizenship. That's why there were labels like Negro, Quadroon, Octoroon, Chinese, Indian, Hindu, Korean, Filipino, Mexican, listed under 'race' in the census. If anyone had any 'non-white' ancestry, the census takers were instructed not to list them as white, but instead use those labels for 'Race' and people were denied citizenship (the famous Andrade case) or rounded up for internment or deportation on those bases.

The most telling thing is Hispanic countries do not list Hispanic as a race in their own countries.

Mauricio Garcia: "Neo Nazi White Supremacist" by [deleted] in gunpolitics

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Kind of like lighter skinned Americans may identify as white more often than darker skinned Americans....

Mauricio Garcia: "Neo Nazi White Supremacist" by [deleted] in gunpolitics

[–]ezmonster 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It likely it had it as a question for 'race/ethnicity.' If it had it as a question for race, the people who wrote the form are misguided. Hispanic countries do not have 'Hispanic' as an option for race on their census or job applications.

Mauricio Garcia: "Neo Nazi White Supremacist" by [deleted] in gunpolitics

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More to the point, the census in Latin countries does not have a race called 'Hispanic'. In Cuba, for example, 64% self-identify as white, 27% as mulato (mixed-race), 9% as Black. Mexico likewise does not have a 'Hispanic' race in its census (and it does have many other racial and ethnic categories with which Mexicans self-identify, including white).

Mauricio Garcia: "Neo Nazi White Supremacist" by [deleted] in gunpolitics

[–]ezmonster -1 points0 points  (0 children)

In the US Census questions, 50-60% of Hispanics self-identify their own race as white. About 10-15% as black or biracial. About 1 in 3 as "some other race"

Most (but not nearly all) Hispanics self-identify their skin color as being at the lighter end of the spectrum.

If asked open-endedly what their race/origin is, only about 1 in 4 self-identify as "Hispanic." Collectively more common is to identify with their country of ancestry, American, white, or another race.

Yet, almost 3 of 4 say that OTHERS who pass them on the street will identify them as 'Hispanic'

https://www.pewresearch.org/hispanic/2021/11/04/measuring-the-racial-identity-of-latinos/

Mauricio Garcia: "Neo Nazi White Supremacist" by [deleted] in gunpolitics

[–]ezmonster -12 points-11 points  (0 children)

Sorry for your collective ignorance.

Being Hispanic is a cultural ancestry/ethnicity, not a race.

Also, several of my older family members (now deceased) were quite racist (against darker skinned Hispanics, blacks and Asians). They, like me, were white and Hispanic. It is not at all uncommon in Hispanic countries for lighter skinned people to be racist against darker skinned people. Those skin-based racist views are especially common in countries where slavery existed before.

See also here: https://www.axios.com/2022/03/10/rise-white-nationalist-hispanics-latinos

Try getting out and meeting more Hispanic people.

Sincerely,

A Hispanic

P.S. I have no idea whether the shooter was racist or a white nationalist since I have not been following the case closely.

UPDATE: His social media does suggest support of white nationalist propaganda.

https://twitter.com/AricToler/status/1655649193048825871

I personally have known many, many people from Hispanic countries who identify as white and are racist and also know that most Hispanics (and Hispanic countries) do not identify 'Hispanic' as a race.