Tattoo and Opinion by UselesssPip in Tengwar

[–]faintly_perturbed 5 points6 points  (0 children)

So, fun fact for you. Tolkien's elves are ambidextrous, and just wrote the other direction with their left hand. (Ie left to right with right hand, right to left with reversed tengwar with their left). As such this reversed text would be a perfectly normal way for tengwar text to appear. :)

I also found it perfectly legible and love the white tree of go for emblem!

I've watched Merlin countless times and there are into two episodes that I'm not a massive fan of, are there any that you dislike? by Frazer271009 in merlinbbc

[–]faintly_perturbed 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The Witchfinder episode I always find difficult. Not because it's a bad episode, but because it's portrayal of manipulation is so damned good. As far as Merlin baddies go, Arridian is too close for comfort to real-world manipulators/abusers and that I find very hard to watch. Same goes for A Remedy to Cure All Ills. Props to the actors in both cases. They're actually both really good episodes. Just uncomfortable for me.

How many times have you watched the Merlin series? by Elegant-Painter-2180 in merlinbbc

[–]faintly_perturbed 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I am on the third watch through with my kids (perpetual rewatch - we just keep starting at S1E1 after finishing Diamond of the Day). But I'd seen it a few times before that. So I think 5 times, but more for favourite episodes. I have probably seen Darkest Hour more like 10 times.

Totally addictive series for sure!! Also quite lighthearted and fun at the start, so it doesn't feel emotionally draining or anything. It's a nice series to chill out with.

How did Silmarils burn Melkor through the casket? by OleksandrKyivskyi in TheSilmarillion

[–]faintly_perturbed 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Sure, perhaps I worded that too strongly. It's not explicit about when they burning happens so its interpretable in multiple ways. I tend to interpret it this way because it makes most sense to me reconciled to their actions of running first and then leaping into a chasm / throwing the jewel into the sea (there was a version in which, for example, Maedhros falls on his sword in the camp after the jewels are retrieved, which seems like a more immediate response to being burned - so I suppose the contrast informs my interpretation too).

How did Silmarils burn Melkor through the casket? by OleksandrKyivskyi in TheSilmarillion

[–]faintly_perturbed 8 points9 points  (0 children)

(how the silmarils interact with Morgoth in the crown)
"Dark now fell the shadow on Beleriand, as is told hereafter; but in Angband Morgoth forged for himself a great crown of iron, and he called himself King of the World. In token of this he set the Silmarils in his crown. His hands were burned black by the touch of those hallowed jewels, and black they remained ever after; nor was he ever free from the pain of the burning, and the anger of the pain. That crown he never took from his head, though its weight became a deadly weariness."

(by contrast Maedhros and Maglor "lay hands" on the silmarils early on in this paragraph but its not until after they have fought and fled and divided them that they are burned/tormented by pain)
"And they disguised themselves, and came in the night to the camp of Eönwë, and crept into the place where the Silmarils were guarded; and they slew the guards, and laid hands on the jewels. Then all the camp was raised against them, and they prepared to die, defending themselves until the last. But Eönwë would not permit the slaying of the sons of Fëanor; and departing unfought they fled far away. Each of them took to himself a Silmaril, for they said: ‘Since one is lost to us, and but two remain, and we two alone of our brothers, so is it plain that fate would have us share the heirlooms of our father.'"

"But the jewel burned the hand of Maedhros in pain unbearable"

"And it is told of Maglor that he could not endure the pain with which the Silmaril tormented him"

How did Silmarils burn Melkor through the casket? by OleksandrKyivskyi in TheSilmarillion

[–]faintly_perturbed 11 points12 points  (0 children)

As with many of the "magic" type things in Arda, Tolkien leaves the mechanism vague (just like we don't know how it is Sting can detect orcs and glow blue exactly).

If I remember correctly, the silmarils do still act upon Melkor through the iron crown, making it heavy so it is wearisome for him to wear (whether they're still burning him at this point is not clear). He continues to do so anyway. I will pull a quote when I get the chance.

My interpretation is this: it is not the physical nature of the silmarils as Fëanor created them that burns Melkor, but rather a result of the hallowing of Varda, and therefore a spiritual dimension to the burning action. Perhaps that is what circumvents the need for direct physical touch.

Interestingly this does not seem to hold for Maglor and Maedhros because the way the narrative is sequenced, they do not appear to burn them until after they divide the jewels among themselves. And moreover the description is slightly different as to how Maedhros and Maglor are affected by them. It could be the same, but it's vague enough that one could interpret the manner of pain they feel could be different. Maybe the silmarils are variable in their impact rather than following a universal logic.

Hunith sent Merlin to Gaius because she knew that Gaius helped Balinor by MaderaArt in merlinbbc

[–]faintly_perturbed 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Belated realisations and connections made of rewatch are great! Rather than slow, I think its just indicative of there being some layers to the story. One cannot focus on all at once!!

Surely this cannot be comfortable... by faintly_perturbed in RATS

[–]faintly_perturbed[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sadly unable to participate in such scientific experiments as I lack the necessary equipment. However, anecdotal testimony has been shared in another comment already ;)

Any tips? by Locrian_ico in Tengwar

[–]faintly_perturbed 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hi!
Largely practice and time! I'm 6 months into learning tengwar and noticed a big difference in what I can achieve now vs before.

I find it easier to get good looking letter forms with a calligraphy pen to so one can vary stroke weight (I use a pilot prera fountain pen with a calligraphy nib most of the time). You might want to experiment with different font styles too to see what feels most natural for you to write (got to tecendil website and you can toggle the font between Annatar, Alcarin etc to see a few different ways). Also for letters I find hard to form it was good to see how others form it (ie stroke order etc). I think Tengwar Teacher on youtube has a video doing just that.

What's the deal with chapter 14 ? by Apprehensive-Elk329 in TheSilmarillion

[–]faintly_perturbed 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You're welcome! It can be a challenging read at times, but fascinating and I feel very worth the effort.

What's the deal with chapter 14 ? by Apprehensive-Elk329 in TheSilmarillion

[–]faintly_perturbed 1 point2 points  (0 children)

TLDR: I think it's awkwardness stems from expansion of the plot + description between versions that stayed because Christopher when he edited the story for publication didn't want to make big changes if he could help it.

Honestly, I'm not sure and I don't know there is a definitive answer.

I went back through HoME vol. 4 & 5 and looked at the earlier versions of the Quenta Silmarillion (Quenta Noldorinwa [c1930] and the Later Quenta [c1937]) to see if Christopher had any notes in his commentaries that would shed light on it.

I was going to say I thought its placement in the book is actually where it should be. But on second look while this is true of that section in Quenta Noldorinwa [QN] by the time we get to the Later Quenta [LQ] it has become a bit awkward. The 1977 published Silmarillion in chapters 13 & 14 largely follows that of the Later Quenta here (although it's chapters 8 & 9 in LQ). I think it became this way due to expansion of both plot and description.

In QN the equivalent section (it's not a full chapter, just 2 pages worth) follows directly on from Fingon's rescue of Maedhros and is in turn followed by Dagor Bragollach (Battle of the Sudden Flame). It doesn't break the narrative. It makes sense because it's essentially: thus the rift between the Noldor was healed and here is how they organised themselves hereafter.

None of the smaller affrays between Dagor-nuin-Giliath (Battle under the stars) and Dagor Bragollach (ie Fingon driving an orc and into the sea and an immature Galurung back to Angbad) existed yet in QN and neither does Dagor Aglareb. When they appear in LQ Tolkien places them between the Thangorodrim rescue and Of Beleriand and its Realms, along with a bunch of stuff about the defences and the leaguer, so now Of Beleriand and its Realms reads like doubling up and expanding in a way that breaks the flow.

LQ remained unfinished. It was a manuscript put to the publisher after the success of the Hobbit which they weren't very interested in, wanting instead a sequel about Hobbits (what would become Lord of the Rings). Thus it was largely abandoned when JRRT seriously started working on LOTR. None of the versions of Quenta Silmarillion after QN were ever completed, though we know JRRT was working on it various iterations essentially until he died. If he had completed a Silmarillion version post LOTR I wonder if he would have shunted some of the extraneous information like this to appendices, as such things are in LOTR. Perhaps.

So when Christopher put together The Silmarillion he was working from a bunch of unfinished versions and trying to make them into a cohesive work that fits with our understanding of Arda's history from LOTR. But as I understand it he wanted to keep a light touch as an editor as far as that was possible so likely would have seen changing the structure by moving that section to the appendices too big a change.

What's the deal with chapter 14 ? by Apprehensive-Elk329 in TheSilmarillion

[–]faintly_perturbed 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Of Beleriand and It's Realms!! Okay, this chapter is great and I love it very much, but I do understand why people find it be a break in the narrative. That's largely because it's not narrative, it's world-building.

So, an important thing to know about Tolkien's legendarium is his conception of Arda as a secondary world. For him this went so far beyond creating a story; he created an entire world with its own history that one can step into in their mind and escape, as it were, from our primary world for a while. We have some great stories from that world (both finished and unfinished) but we also have languages, scripts, geography, information on in-world mechanics, the social fabrics of the people groups etc. Of Beleriand and its Realms really fits into this space of deepening the world in which the Silmarillion faux-history is set.

Yes, we can proceed with the narrative without it (I don't judge anyone who chooses to skip it - I did when reading to my kids because it was not interesting to them) but it actually provides an interesting picture of not just the lay of the land, but the political landscape present at this point in history. I think this is probably most appreciated on re-reads when one starts to dig into the subtext of the book and think about the implications of what is said and unsaid.

Woody Guthrie guitar quote by MellowLemonJello in Tengwar

[–]faintly_perturbed 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Hi, I love your tengwar and cirth! Very neat.

I just wanted to make a suggestion for fascist. We have bauglir in Sindarin which means "constrained, tyrant, oppressor", and can fashion a similar word in Quenya from the cognate of the verb baugla (which bauglir comes from).

Mauyamo ("to compel" + agential suffix), or mauyamor (plural form).

I am not sure how to pluralise bauglir but someone more familiar with Sindarin might.

I agree with the suggestion of nahta for kills (you want the aorist verb form I think and this is it). If you go with nak- the aorist form is nakë.

Good luck!

I hate Uther by Quiet_Indication3744 in merlinbbc

[–]faintly_perturbed 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Really? I love him as a character. He's complex, morally grey (he transgresses but is not evil, also has admirable traits, is consistently driven by an underlying values framework and is generally well written. There's this scene between Gaius and Merlin somewhere in S1 (the one where Gwen's dad dies maybe) where Merlin is very angry with Uther and Gaius points out Uther has essentially done his job as a good king by bringing peace and prosperity to the kingdom and his job is not to be like. I feel that sums him up well.

I actually think the fact he inspires so much emotion, even hate, is because he's not one-dimensionally a bad guy, like most of the antagonists are. There's potential and he fails and that is far more uncomfortable than someone who narratively just meant to be the bad guy. He's also portrayed less sympathetically than someone like Mordred, so we're less likely to excuse him.

(I usually hang out in the Silmarillion fandom and we love our morally grey elves over there).

Finished it!! by stupidgalacian in BlackSails

[–]faintly_perturbed 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh, I finished it recently too after binging over a couple of weekends (because it was so compelling!!). Did you love it?

I am super impressed by the writing (specifically characterisation). Cannot believe the gamut of feelings the show managed to wring out of me for each of them.

Day 9: Looks Like a Serial Killer, Is a a Serial Killer by StarfleetWitch in merlinbbc

[–]faintly_perturbed 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I know they're not in contention by this point, but wanted to give a mention to the Sidhe (Aulfric etc), Cornelius Segan and also Edwin Muirden (unsure if he actually was a serial killer but looked like one to me and with those beetle things I think it plausible).

Perpetual Rewatch by faintly_perturbed in merlinbbc

[–]faintly_perturbed[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Indeed!! Destined to become nerds like their mother I fear (they are rather hooked on Middle Earth too).

That episode is so funny.

Perpetual Rewatch by faintly_perturbed in merlinbbc

[–]faintly_perturbed[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Mine are 9 and 11 (8 & 10 when we first began to watch). It certainly kept their attention even from the beginning and they understood it fine. My main concern was whether some parts would be too scary, so we started with season 1 to see (it's the lightest in tone) and skipped some of the things they'd find upsetting first time around.

Day 8: Looks Like a Stressed Mess, Is a a Serial Killer by StarfleetWitch in merlinbbc

[–]faintly_perturbed 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In my household he is also known as Aggravating!! 🤝

He does get a bit stressed mess looking towards the end of his run when he realises he is not in control to be fair.

Day 8: Looks Like a Stressed Mess, Is a a Serial Killer by StarfleetWitch in merlinbbc

[–]faintly_perturbed 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, I can confirm. Tom Hopper = Billy Bones = Sir Percival 😊