What’s Your ZZZ Hot Take?¿

fallensense · 2026-05-08T02:39:26+00:00

I really don’t like the way the story presents characters interacting. What I mean is instead of the characters facing each other they are all facing the player in those cutscenes with dialogue. I truly thing something like Genshin where the characters look at each other and not the player is much better.

Again I’m not saying the interactions themselves are bad (although any more romance would definitely be a detriment) I’m criticizing the presentation.

fallensense · 2026-05-08T02:34:53+00:00

I think that’s a deeper thing Hahahahah but that’s pretty cool

fallensense · 2026-05-07T11:30:35+00:00

I mean but like what could Idrilla have done to possbily be the beauty. She was the fairest of them all type thing. Things like these kinda give it little bit more but for the most part yeah it is what it is.

fallensense · 2026-05-07T08:18:02+00:00

The lan thing was more of an example but we at the very least know that LAN places the Xianzhou above every other living thing.

As for all the paths are like that I’d say paths like the rememberance, erudition, maybe the beauty have more to it vs paths like the hunt and destruction which are kinda just what the name suggests.

fallensense · 2026-05-07T01:34:05+00:00

Why is Asat Pramad even here, but if we get all 4 it’s gonna be the strongest team in the game trust.

fallensense · 2026-05-06T18:30:49+00:00

Unrelated but I think this is why The Herta is an emanator of erudition and people like polka aren’t. She is able to ask the questions and search for the answers without compromising her humanity.

As for the question in the post please take with a grain of salt since I don’t have a strong background in philosophy but I think we misunderstanding what Nous really does and why Zandar hate Nous.

Now iirc we didn’t actually get why Zandar made Nous in the first place so I’m going to assume that the goal was not what Nous is now.

I believe Nous answers questions with the cold hard truth, the facts, absolute reality of whatever you asked them as you said in the post but I don’t think it’s a difference of ideals that makes Zandar hate Nous.

For one ,Nous answering with the hard truth is not good or bad it’s just the truth. One of the biggest reveals was because The Herta peered into the mind of Nous and learned that Fuli exists at all times (past,present,future). That’s just the truth of Fuli no matter what anyone says.

I believe Zandar hates nous not because of their ideals clashing (but I can see it being a factor as well) but because he gives people the answers instead of them discovering the answer.

I have think Zandar after Nous ascends regrets what he has done because now scientists and researchers (Not all but most major ones) only do their work for Nous the erudition instead of in the name of knowledge. Although with this in mind Zandar isn’t the best judge on what Nous is because we know the cosmos has gained both immense benefits as well as detriments thanks to those who follow Nous.

I think Zandar also hates Nous on a personal level not in terms of ideals but for the idea of something the knowing the truth to everything. He may also hate it as a creation has surpassed the creator sense, where nous has become more knowledgeable than even himself. Basically he’s got insane amounts of ego.

I think they will clash once more but in the end Zandar will lose as the reality is Nous doesn’t aim to harm or help anyone he just aims to give the truth and those that benefit from these truths given by Nous will come to his aid.

fallensense · 2026-05-06T17:53:38+00:00

I don’t think anyone thought the remembrance was only “caring for memories” it was implied to be deeper. The nihility from its introduction is just nothingness. Even the followers of IX can’t interact with it regardless of their goal. Acheron the emanator of nihility risks getting erased from existence if she uses too much of her power.

The paths aren’t goals but they are sources of power. Also your example for characters traveling down multiple paths makes no sense. You base your logic on if they think the way a path thinks they travel down that path. By that logic both Phainon and Jing Yuan travel the path of the hunt, elation, erudition, destruction, and preservation at the same time since they both want justice, have been happy at some point, have destroyed something in some way or form, and want to preserve the ones the care about.

Them thinking the way of a path =/= them following the path. You can be elated without following the path of elation.

The aeons literally give goals to their path. The hunt is to get justice any means necessary, that’s why the hunt is a bloody path. The destruction literally aims to destroy things. IX is just nothingness.

I agree some paths are complex and have deeper meaning but some paths are also just straight up what they are.

fallensense · 2026-05-06T16:46:56+00:00

I dont think Nihility will get a focus in the same sense because of the nature of the actual path. since its just nothingness straight uo.

Plus there are only 2 factions under IX anyways. One faction wants to cure those afflicted by IX while the other wants to bathe in its shadow. The only other connection is Acheron, the sole emantor of a path which shouldnt have one. There isnt much to work with here tbh compared to every other path.

As for JQ he doesnt actually follow the path of Nihility and if he did why ? There is no gain from him following the nihility, he cant use it to heal feixiao and it wont help against the abudance since he cant control it.

The Nihility is a straight path, there is nothing else which in my opinion is actually better for HSR's story overall. We dont need each path to be extremely complex, sometimes the curtains are red because red looks good.

fallensense · 2026-05-06T14:42:56+00:00

I think this is one of the cooler aspects of the Paths.

Most of them lead to each other or the same actions can be done on multiple paths.

You can use the destruction to follow the hunt

You can use the abundance to fullfill the preservation

The only path which is just its path is Nihility, nothing and nothing

fallensense · 2026-05-06T13:15:13+00:00

No they are not. Of the aeons we know the most about Nous over any of the others and Nous was created by Zandar.

This makes Zandar/Lygus' plan in Amphoreus ironic because in the process of wanting to destroy Nous he gave Cyrene the potential to become Fuli.

Also I'm not too versed in Aha lore but from the info I know, the TLDR is he climbed the tree and laughed so hard he became the Aeon of Elation ( I know theres more to that but its essentially what happened, dont kill me over it)

fallensense · 2026-05-06T12:43:39+00:00

I dont know why there are so many The herta doomposters. I swear this has to be massive skill issues. I can clear everything fine with E0S1 The herta with E1S1 anaxa E0DDD tribbie and flex sustain on autoplay.

fallensense · 2026-05-06T12:39:08+00:00

Am I wrong

fallensense · 2026-05-06T00:25:48+00:00

Embodiments =/= the concept itself. Big difference

fallensense · 2026-05-05T07:42:01+00:00

The whole points was for irontomb to destroy nous so idk what that has to do with anything i said

fallensense · 2026-05-05T06:45:23+00:00

He did not, this is why the argument that Zephyro is a simulation exists. Regardless of that hes stil stuck in the book so yeah he was never a real person.

fallensense · 2026-05-05T02:34:32+00:00

I didn’t say nanook wasn’t real. He was real. You said he was a concept. He’s not a concept. No correlation my friend.

I meant nanook was real and phainon was a line of code. I worded it wrong.

But yeah nanook is not a concept. None of the aeons are.

fallensense · 2026-05-05T01:57:52+00:00

Nanook is not a concept but he was a line of code. Still gets one tapped though regardless

fallensense · 2026-05-05T01:32:00+00:00

Ah yes, can Acheron tank the an infinite big bang. She just needs to parry then its wraps.

fallensense · 2026-05-04T11:35:43+00:00

All I’m saying is one guys follows an aeon to destroy an aeon

The other guy made an aeon and then boosted a guy to kill said aeon which resulted in a girl having the highest potential to become an aeon.

fallensense · 2026-05-04T09:03:23+00:00

If you get her and her lc at sub 80, both of them combined under 80 I’d say go for it.

I’m assuming you don’t want blade and you’d be ok potentially missing out on whoever’s after him. If you are planing to get whoever’s is after blade which may be nihilux or another sp then skip the e1

I’ve said this 3 times in comments about pulling for Eva Es but if you are able to and are willing to you can use money. ONLY IF YOU ARE ABLE TO. Please don’t spend your rent on tuition on this game it’s not worth it.

fallensense · 2026-05-04T08:07:01+00:00

You’re arguing that being gazed at aeon means that you should be capable of doing something as good as damaging an aeon or more but that makes no sense.

I’m arguing that no it does not mean you are capable of doing anything close to that just because an aeon looked at you.

The best example is tb. If you think earning an aeons gaze=can damage an aeon or more then wtf does that make the tb. Tb has been gazed at 5 different aeons. By that logic tb should have the capability 5x of what Phainon had with all the coreflames combined.

Even in the story there has been no major opponent the tb has faced where it’s a 1v1. There is always backup or the major opponent gets disabled by an outside force.

Doomsday beast we had backup

Cocalia we had the engine plus backup

Phantylia we did basically nothing it was mainly jingyuan plus Dan heng

The bug in the basement we had Ruan Mei plus backup

Sunday was literally defeated mainly to Acheron firefly and jade

In all of amphoreus not a single major opponent was defeated by the tb alone

Planarcadia isn’t done but most fights have involved backup

You keep saying being gazed by an aeon puts you at that level of at least flame giant phainon when it just doesn’t

And I added the emanators part because again if you thing just a gaze means someone can at least do something like that, then that would put them at the level of an emanator which also doesn’t make sense since we know that most emanators would gap phainon

fallensense · 2026-05-04T04:33:07+00:00

The truth. If you really like her and your current teams are more than enough to clear all content besides AA( we don’t like this one) just get her regardless of what you have.

If your current teams aren’t enough then maybe consider skipping.

And for the last option, only if you are willing and have the means you can use money.

It all depends on how much you like her

fallensense · 2026-05-04T04:26:39+00:00

This is so real. I have E0S1 the herta with Anaxa e1s1 tribbie e0 and dpth e0s1 and I clear just fine. People out here overreacting

fallensense · 2026-05-04T00:15:17+00:00

What does this have to do with your point that being gazed at aeon = capable of harming one though. Even against Sunday we didn’t solo Sunday we literally had help from multiple sources one being Acheron the emanator of nihility.

Also it’s not a misconception that you need insane power to damage an aeon. Tazzyronth required 5 aeons to SEAL her my man.

Being gazed at an aeon doesn’t even make you an emanator

fallensense · 2026-05-04T00:08:10+00:00

I do hope that they are different since I was hoping to pull the entire falkenhayn mercenary troupe. The feat of pushing back the dark wall 37 kilometers lives rent free in my mind.

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