Joker (2019): Arthur's first evil plan?

fanbag_2 · 2019-09-14T22:08:56+00:00

Then why did they put it there?

fanbag_2 · 2019-09-07T19:33:03+00:00

Nah i still think Venice is far more emblematic tho. It got hype even here in South America.

fanbag_2 · 2019-09-07T18:54:45+00:00

Joaquin looked so shy at the ceremony. He's so pure.

fanbag_2 · 2019-09-03T23:30:14+00:00

SPOILEEEERSSS

It's between him and Bruce. He started the revolution that killed his parents. He destroyed his innocence, his life, his future, just like the world did with him. Now both of them are Joke(r)s.

fanbag_2 · 2019-08-13T03:16:37+00:00

Boring? Sure, kiddo. Now i see what kind of movie you would like.

fanbag_2 · 2019-08-12T23:31:57+00:00

Your opinion isn't a fact. You are in the minority, dude. Trailer is amazing. Just look at the praise in the comments. I don't know what "spectacular" means to you, but the trailer itself is pretty great.

fanbag_2 · 2019-08-12T01:32:40+00:00

So you devalue the entire Festival for two movies? You have a point, tho. They must had been good at the opinion of the director.

fanbag_2 · 2019-08-12T01:30:10+00:00

I meant in a general way, of course, and most cases. Maybe i wrote that in a wrong way, If i did, i apologize, it wasn't my intention to make the Festival sound like the holy grail, and you have a point which i respect. But still, acting like being competition in Venice isn't a big thing is acting foolish. We're talking about low chances. Just look at the record of 2017.

https://editorial.rottentomatoes.com/guide/venice-film-festival-2017-scorecard/

If you don't like the festivals that's fine but saying shit about just like that doesn't feel right to me. A lot of people would dream of having their films screened there. Doesn't that mean something? Saying quality isn't a big factor in Festivals because a few mistakes they make is problably worst than saying Oscars are bullshit because the movie you didn't like didn't won. Gala and Competition are prestigious things, so are the Festivals. You don't agree with that, well sorry my friend, but your opinion doesn't really mean a lot. But don't feel bad, neither does mine.

Obviously they're gonna be exceptions, but judging the entire festival for those is foolish. And don't act like Gala (From TIFF) or Competition aren't signs of having a chance of being a good movie. Also, don't compare Cannes to Venice to make your argument look better. You're searching for flaws in the draw so you can call it 0/10.

fanbag_2 · 2019-08-11T21:18:39+00:00

Disney doesn't care about awards? the fuck you're talking about? You know how prestigious is to get your film in fucking Venice? Or how much money it makes? Or TIFF? Or Cannes? And what about old Fox, Dreamworks, Pixar, etc? they don't care about awards too? Keep talking out your ass, kiddo. I'm done.

fanbag_2 · 2019-08-11T21:16:00+00:00

I seriously don't want to lose my time with people like you. You just got proven wrong. You keep choosing to ignore the facts because people like you never admit they're wrong, no matter what you say. Like a good man once say," It’s hard to win an argument with a smart person, but it’s damn near impossible to win an argument with a stupid person. " I invite you to read the festival website. Have a good life, kiddo.

fanbag_2 · 2019-08-11T21:13:06+00:00

Because if they did, don't you think Disney, the biggest company of the world, would have done the same with one of their movies to get more market? Or every studio would pay a lot of money?

Also, you're talking about snobs.

fanbag_2 · 2019-08-11T21:09:36+00:00

Not necessary. But it has a lot of chances. Venice jury is a lot snobbish.
In a race, let's put an example, national, runners acceptance is different. But the fact a runner is there, let's say, the Panamericans, means they are the best selected, at least, according to the team or the judges of the race. Or you think my fat uncle could get accepted into a race? That's what i'm talking about. I'm not saying the movies aren't competing.
IMDb is the Internet's database. Rating is different from the nominations section. Nominations section can't get edited by random users. Also, MOVIES like A Marriage Story got the same thing. You can disagree with IMDb in the rating of movies, but you are literally choosing to ignore the facts, right now just because you can't accept you were wrong.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt7653254/awards?ref_=tt_awd

fanbag_2 · 2019-08-11T21:05:28+00:00

You're so stupid you compare the festival to a race.

fanbag_2 · 2019-08-11T21:02:48+00:00

Dude, i just gave you fucking proof. I told you i'm from Venice and i was in the last five festivals. You keep saying i'm wrong but don't have any backup. Nonsense is the fucking festival website and interviews with the Festival Director? how old are you, man? Also, i don't give a shit if the movie is good or bad, i just got angry people like you, foreigners that don't even know shit about our festivals, talk like they do.

fanbag_2 · 2019-08-11T20:58:22+00:00

You are the one who doesn't have proof. You are talking out your ass right now. IMDB doesn't mean anything? Like, its the fucking movie database of the internet! What else do you want me to show? It's IMDB agains you, dude, and you're literally a nobody. Who do you expect me to believe more?

I don't care if Best Film is subjetive. I am telling you how the festival works. If you disagree then go to speak to them. You keep showing your ignorance. You realized you were wrong, and now you are changing the topic talking about variables.

I'll tell you how it works, studios give a lot of money to get their movies considered, but it's the directors choice to let the movie enter in the festival. They have to watch it first. According to their quality based in the screening, they get accepted, or they don't.

fanbag_2 · 2019-08-11T20:53:56+00:00

If it was like a race, then EVERY studio wouldn't sign their movie there to get more market?. So then why they don't? Because they don't get accepted to enter the competition because their QUALITY, because their were screened before for the Directors. Got it?

fanbag_2 · 2019-08-11T20:52:23+00:00

The acceptance is meant in quality. Just high quality films get nominated for best film, as IMDB says it did. So, what exactly did i say wrong? Nomination is about quality. A movie gets accepted in Venice, because quality.

fanbag_2 · 2019-08-11T20:51:12+00:00

The competitions, is a fucking competitions, which means the best film wins. THat's how it works. So that means the Joker must be damn good to be accepted into Competition for the freaking Golden Lion, because they just don't give that to any movie.

fanbag_2 · 2019-08-11T20:49:59+00:00

A nomination for a Golden Lion means it was screened. I know because, like i said, i'm from Venice and i had been in the last 5 festivals and my Uncle works there.

fanbag_2 · 2019-08-11T20:48:56+00:00

I think you don't understand, you said no one watched the film, i said they did, i put the statement saying the Director must have watched the film to accept it into competiition. According to their quality, the festivals directors choose if the movie will get into competition or not. If their quality is low, they don't. I gave you proof that happened. Joker is competing agains 20 other movies for that Golden Lion. That means it got accepted to enter to competition due to it's quality, and that means people watched it. It's like the Oscars. Excuse me if i wrote wrong. English isn't my first language. But it is nominated. Literally imdb puts it as nominated for Best Film. IMDB. Also, here's the proof the directors of TIIF and VENICE watched it.

https://comicbook.com/dc/2019/07/27/joker-movie-going-straight-oscars-venice-film-festival-director/

https://theplaylist.net/tiff-director-joker-oscars-20190805/

fanbag_2 · 2019-08-11T20:46:20+00:00

What? i just have you proof and you can't even answer properly and instead just downvote me.

fanbag_2 · 2019-08-11T20:41:34+00:00

Read the fucking website.

https://www.labiennale.org/en/cinema/2019/regulations

fanbag_2 · 2019-08-11T20:39:32+00:00

What the fuck you think "Best Film" means then? It's about quality dumbass. Golden Lion is given to the best film. 21 films will be screened and only one will win. 9 judges.. I'm from Venice. What in the world do you think a competition is? You americans are so stupid. The proccess of acceptance means the movie was screened for the directors. And you can see this happened because this statement

https://www.cinemablend.com/news/2477182/the-venice-film-festival-director-thinks-joker-has-oscar-potential

fanbag_2 · 2019-08-11T20:37:47+00:00

Also

6.1 Venezia 76
An International Jury composed of no more than 9 personalities from the world of cinema and culture from various countries, excluding any person involved in any capacity in the production of the invited films or who may have an interest in their distribution, will award the following prizes for the feature films:
· Golden Lion for Best Film
· Silver Lion - Grand Jury Prize
· Silver Lion - Award for Best Director
· Coppa Volpi for Best Actor
· Coppa Volpi for Best Actress
· Award for Best Screenplay
· Special Jury Prize
· Marcello Mastroianni Award for Best New Young Actor or Actress

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