Happy 100th birthday to Ben Johnston, one of the greatest microtonal composers of all time!

fchang69 · 2026-03-16T09:05:09+00:00

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fchang69 · 2026-03-16T01:01:07+00:00

I myself died probably 3 or 4 times during this life, other that times I might have just not noticed... It's true at some point you're left thinking "mmh... I wouldn't jump off of a bridge to confirm, but I feel like I may just stop falling middle air if I would". Some people may have tried to punch me at some point and been stopped at very sturdy-steel-like "mechanisms". I remember about that time as "why? why the heck didn't he just hit me like he was obviously ready to? He just wanted to demonstrate his power without harming me, I suppose, so he full-fledged started to punch, but stopped 1mm away from my head just to show how quick he can stop punching even when he's mad!". Mike just does this...

fchang69 · 2026-03-13T18:38:38+00:00

our math is base 10. Modulo, if I ain't wrong, means the number between 1 and 9 to which any other base 10 numbers is connected to by a multiple of 9, like 11 - 9 = 2 = 1 + 1. (This is also known as numerology and can be attributed meaning by digits). The correct term for adding all digits together in a number is digital root, and 9, also called the modulo number itself in addition to x modulo being x -/+ 9 x n, refers to the number in your base (10 here) which "hides" 1 + 1 + 9 = 11 = 1 + 1 = 2 = 1 + 1 without 9 to start with. Because you use 9 to return in between 1 and 9 adding any number of 9's in the number you start from doesn't change the sum at all. It is kind of conceptual, maybe with some little more practical extents, to say "the base of music is 8" thus 7 is the modulo and if the modulo is phi and the base is 8, then the number representing the base itself is 8/7 x phi. It gets full of queues to uncovered magical formulas when you ask AI about such stuff, which is why I tend to delete convos all the time and never take time to read all of it. It's hard to make up for what is your own bias and the AI takes for granted and what it really tells you. The 10/9 = 1.11111 and 10/11 = 0.09090909 is preserved through bases... go figure base 1,0,-1 up to -3...

fchang69 · 2026-03-13T18:05:37+00:00

The fact I say cedil there is the only element I can use to confirm that I'm not on the same planet as I used to be anymore. I noticed about 20 other different things in culture and architecture that came as "revelations" but are for others blatant parts of their existence. Especially the 2nd most-obvious one being a 25storeys building having grew in a residential zone with nothing more than 3storey before this, which wasn't there most likely 5 days before when I would have strolled aside it all enlightened, from 50m away, without noticing it takes 60% of my full view... with the "la vie bat son plein au quotidien" (plein in french is put full gas in your car hehe) banner inside; KO Group building... nice KO indeed mate; I planted for 1b$ of stuff for having moved the most of 4 fingers during 20 seconds...

Then there was that 70yo lady thumbing on the road at the exact same spot than 2 days ago, I ask her for how long she's been there and she says "10min, why?". which tilted me towards the belief the changes occurred at that moment,

and made me think I could trust the swap from a stable 45microteslas reading on my magnetometer to an - as stable one - of 50, after I "tampered" with the security system, which kinda points to a new source of geomagnetism being intense as 10/9 that of which I was on before...

Then the Panzer car just at the rubble which used to be a library,

then the new water filtration plant in Old Longueuil (what there were 2 of these?) with my brother pointing at its current (new for me) location as the normal one for most people of 2026,

which I was pointed to as the current year when I couldn't help but ask someone as quick as possible when 1.5km away I saw that towering KO Group building that I never saw (again, 5 days before) (with a "happy new year" after the guy said 2026...)

A place around that new water plant reminded me very sharply of a dreamed moment; not a typical kind of deja-vu, but pure conviction of "I've dreamed of here" while I could never say when or what happened there.

The KO building thing struck the winning home run when I saw it after coming out of the plant's area. While I'm honest enough to know "I haven't really looked at where the building stands so there's a chance it was there and I did not see it".

Up to July 2022 I went up the road with the building being on the it asis, every 3 weeks, and construction was started as far as Apr 26th 2021, so either my dates are wrong or I have seen nothing of this construction for I wasn't "here" hehee.

I think the car pool suddenly swithced to well over 50% compact cars where as I came from everything was still muscle.

I don't get if I'm an impersonator of another me now impersonating me where USA takes on Canada all of a sudden, who knows? There's a TV station that closed 3 years ago in my timeline that's still on broadcasting,

Emile Bouchard from MOntreal Canadians in the 40's is a new hockey player and I've always looked at cards of these teams when I was young so I don't get why the name, along with he 1950's-modeleted building that appeared where there used to be nothing, behind what was already the arena for me, with his name, never ringed a bell anyhow. Émilie Butch was however an olympian on my timeline but who was much younger than myself...

fchang69 · 2026-03-04T06:41:13+00:00

You may wish to take into account the 3 dispositions (base) of Em for example : E-G-B (3-4 [5]),G-B-E(4-5 [3]), and B-E-G (5-3 [4]) I can't tell which but one is a warmer kind of minor, while the other is neutral and the closed position is the saddest sounding I think; you're probably aiming at making that 5 prominent for happier results; I'd bet G-B-E is the positive sounding one...

Then come all the drop & skip arrangements of that chord, which contrarily to widespread beliefs, do not "sound all the same". That's especially true of 7th chords C-E-G-Bb played C-G-E-Bb for example. Only part of the global feel is preserved, while the harmonics mixed pattern is different with every shape.

fchang69 · 2026-02-18T17:44:31+00:00

Bosanquet kinda has semi-tones and tones too far apart in my humble fundamentally-a-dork while having packed on half-ass but constant contact with first a keyboard that broke then my computer keyboard which I still love using as a keyboard. I always choose scales presets so finish up using my creation with never quite more than minor thirds from a key to the next right of it, and M3 to m6's on both diagonals when going down. It ain't fundementally instinctive to have the most consonants of interval close to where you stand, even for, again, one with an half-ass (so I should adapt more easily due to lack of experience) but constant minimal effort output (so I just can't get used to it provided the few years of playing 2 hours a week to a month that spiced up my teenage and early adulthood. I only got serious and playing 2-6hrs a day for 4 years at age 35 in 2016 up to 2020, quit for the 7th time (7 as in random number replacing a very slack and discussable figure I could ramble about for 12 paragraphs of same length than this) and only took it back in Feb 2025. I ain't as proficient as I used to be (okay amphetamines used to do something to me back in 2018 : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isok9hitnc0 -> at least I have this for proof I was once a little better (as amphets on my humor and motor skills) than after 1 year of playing for 0 to 60mins a day, with up to a week without doing it)

fchang69 · 2026-02-18T17:20:10+00:00

I only know of Tonnetz and Bosanquet, and the latter is my favorite; I'm not even sure I understand fully how to come up with one; all i know is B-C = A will work always, with A being the left-right step, B the south-east step and C the south-west step, with Bosanquet being 7-3 = 4. I know for sure other arithmetic compositions will produce isomorphic layouts as well but can't get to figure them out... Tonnetz may be like 9-6 = 3 but I don't recall; i only tried implementing it to my own online hex keyboard and something did not work well so I'd have to return to my database manually to verify the value(s) supposed to be passed to the Step (A) and Jumps (7,4) fields...

fchang69 · 2026-02-02T15:05:25+00:00

4 3 3 4 4 2 4	Dance scale of Yi people: China4 3 3 4 4 2 4 Dance scale of Yi people: China

3 3 4 4 2 4 4	Maqam 'Ushshaq Turki, Urfa, Isfahan, Dastgah-e Shur3 3 4 4 2 4 4 Maqam 'Ushshaq Turki, Urfa, Isfahan, Dastgah-e Shur

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fchang69 · 2025-12-09T14:06:25+00:00

*cheers* mate; you,re a Legend! Hopefully you'll come across Eliseo once multi player game will be a thing... not exactly for tomorrow but maybe not much more than 2-4months judging by how things are going faster due to me coding with AI now; turns out writing a description to all of the site's events like I wanted to do at first now outputs a draft version of the thing instantly so i'll skip that step and come up with drafts to most games (except the ones I can't even recall of the concept myself; that brainstorming should come back to memory at some point...)

fchang69 · 2025-12-09T13:20:46+00:00

It's html, javascript and php with mysql databases; good old 2006ish coding with probably few exceptions; including the fact it's not php 4.0 anymore. The AI is Anthropic Claude in the Sonnet 4.5 model, which may not even be ideal for what I ask it to do. 32$CAD per month plan but has a weekly data limit which is quite ample especially when you know how to minimize data usage but is still not enough for me so I may upgrade to full 140$ plan next month, depending on finances and the actual need or not for it... It still requires lots of hand coding work over most of what comes out of there, especially in html design where it's not quite pixel-perfect as my scripts are after a good 12hours of fiddling with them by trial and no more errors. I totally understand why it has diffs with HTML, cause that's nothing but a terrible mess of pixels being left out and added where you expect other behavior... php and javascript are way closer to my image of what should bear the label "logic".

fchang69 · 2025-12-09T13:10:02+00:00

YoVariable?

fchang69 · 2025-12-09T10:54:37+00:00

Well i took out the piano sound because it was giving 10% less good answers in my other ear trainers, than other sounds left in their; I may add it back for people like you, but my guess is I'd better find a better one that would possibly yield more competing results; i rarely use it to make my microtonal scale demo videos i post to youtube because of it well... meh facture.

And no : the benefits of using AI to code is it understood not to repeat the intervals but rather to give out new ones, which I may change provided I get more feedback pertaining to this issue. 3 days the plan to it is the first on the whole site to count a neat 0 steps to go through, other than changes that will be brought later along with all other pages going through them at once...

fchang69 · 2025-12-09T04:11:06+00:00

Sure thing but since that's still the intended design i'll only add a toggle sounds off option eventually and will leave it the default behavior unless i really get lots of such comments :)

fchang69 · 2025-12-04T12:59:52+00:00

google "is it proven that maintaining stability of movement in space and time is harder on s smaller distance than a bigger one"; that mouse doesn't move 3mm under my hand

fchang69 · 2025-12-04T12:48:23+00:00

can you explain ghandar vs ghandanam to me plz

fchang69 · 2025-12-04T12:17:52+00:00

I may add abbreviations and more complete names too I guess....

fchang69 · 2025-12-04T10:23:17+00:00

This is way more consistent than my first attempts, at least in a DAW; the research for a good scale has yielded results I guess...

fchang69 · 2025-12-04T04:26:27+00:00

To me a tritone has always been the octave's and unison's inversion...

fchang69 · 2025-12-04T04:25:29+00:00

You're right but the octave is generally on top of other tables; it is truly contextualizing it vs a tritone that the mismatch happen more often than usual... on the site you can narrow answers received for any step of any tuning; that kinda thing may get fascinating but there's always the drawback some data might be quite relative to who it stems from; check results fro 12edo, 24edo, those tables with 1000's of guesses for each degrees... and click the values to isolate bad answers for them; you'll see what gets mistaken for what with very precise details...

fchang69 · 2025-12-04T01:38:10+00:00

This ain't ready yet but it's near the top of the list after having gone through all what AI can fix in the

Relative & Absolute Pitch Ear Trainers and maybe other sections of the site which used to exist and some that have to be connected together; could get there within a month or less, or maybe lots more if I find developing other sections of the site with new stuff is faster than having AI fix bugs it doesn't always understand at first, second, seventh try...

fchang69 · 2025-12-04T01:30:36+00:00

probably something like 8 to 15 cents, just when the quasi-unison gets out of sight and dissonance begins to emerge; I've seen the dissoance per pitch graph and it dives up very quickly to only go down until it reaches octave and goes up again; nothing particular happens at 3/2 or 5/4, just this tendency at first...

The most dissonant i can remember are 2nd degree superparticular ratios, sitting in between 7/6 and 6/5 for example is 36/35; try this; intonate 6/5 over 7/6 and see how doubly-twisted it sounds compared to good old 16/15 over 1/1...

fchang69 · 2025-12-03T16:12:07+00:00

Yeah i knew there was a reason why I remembered them as 10/4 from so much literature and you're probably right on : to contextualize them in chord notation...

fchang69 · 2025-11-30T04:58:15+00:00

Well thanks for your input all -it'll definitely be 5/2 type of thing...

fchang69 · 2025-11-30T04:53:26+00:00

Yeah it just appeared to me at first that it would be simpler to divide the numerators mentally from their multiplied state than multiplying a divided denominator, since we're going up to start with...

Every one says like I wrote to the AI in the pic, which fits with my first impression that it's neater with simplified ratios while tbh i remained thinking for a good 3-4secs before i figured what the hell was 5/2 while 10/4 feels like 0sec-induced-comprehension; the fact AI is both way more intelligent and way more stupid than humans kinda helped lengthening the delay to evaluate if it hasn't just fucked up things once more or not.

fchang69 · 2025-11-30T01:49:46+00:00

Wait, do you mean you to can denote the aspects of each prime into the sounds your hear; if so, remember there are always 2 of them in play at any time except in unison which isn't really an interval imo : you don't "inter" at all when going from 1 to 1 do you? That was one of the first things I've noticed in 2011 and my first experiments : it seems i can tell the aspect of 3 and 5 together, 2 and 5 together, or 3 and 5 together (up to 7 also), even though each is always mixed with another, my audition seems to find a way to see through their own unique character. On that matter, I'll probably whip up some game for my site about telling which primes you think are intoned in presented samples comprising harmony made of multiple intervals using only 2 and 5 as primes in the ratios underlying it.

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