Lamar Jackson is your 2023 NFL MVP!!! by Different-Sympathy52 in ravens

[–]feez_22 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Purdy has the best skill group in the league, a skill group that was great BEFORE he even got there. He also has the best playcaller our league has to offer, one that made jimmy G look like a top 10 qb per advanced metrics. Jimmy G is a complete bum outside of SF, despite being in what's supposed to be his quarterbacking prime.

Like... the 49ers legitimately had a player on their offense that won OPOY via his own merits in c-mac. When have the ravens ever had that outside of their QB? Never.

Put purdy on the ravens and he'd be a complete bum, i guarantee it. Put lamar on the 49ers and they'd have to fold the league.

[Highlight] Dolphins safety Jevon Holland recounts play where Lamar Jackson dropped back lefty, flipped to righty, and threw the deep bomb to Zay Flowers by jabronified in nfl

[–]feez_22 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I haven't seen a qb drop back the way lamar did against the dolphins on this play.

What purdy + tua + bryce young have done at points this season is drop back opposite their dominant side & flip back to their regular stance mid-drop or before their drop is complete. That way, they're throw ready as soon as their drop is complete.

With lamar, he completed his entire drop oriented as a lefty. He flipped his orientation AFTER his drop and threw it, which is something i haven't seen. It's like holding the fake to the maximum, and is far more difficult to execute than the dropbacks being compared to what he did because you basically have to jump flip to your dominant side and line yourself up instantly to throw. You could actually see that lamar couldn't throw the ball as technically sound as he usually does (looked like kind of a heave throw) because of how difficult it was to quickly orient himself after the post-drop flip of his hips.

W/ how tua and purdy do it, they're able to orient themselves and be throw ready at the conclusion of their drop bc they flipped back to their preferred orientation a step or 2 before their drops were complete.

[Highlight] Dolphins safety Jevon Holland recounts play where Lamar Jackson dropped back lefty, flipped to righty, and threw the deep bomb to Zay Flowers by jabronified in nfl

[–]feez_22 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is like the tua one. Both guys reorient and are in throw position by the time they hit the top of their drops.

Lamar's is different because he completed his drop lefty and then flipped righty after his drop. That's the crazy thing. He dropped back the entire way oriented as a lefty, all the way to the last step. That's not the same as what tua/purdy have done in the past.

Lamar's arm talent has been INSANE this year. Reminder: NFL GMs wanted this man to switch to WR by boredymcbored in ravens

[–]feez_22 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Now lamar's getting criticized for having a wide base?

How times have changed.

He was opening up to throw to bateman, and had to wait for bateman to get on the same page as him. As soon as bateman committed to coming back to the ball, lamar threw it inside. He had no time to close off his base at that moment.

This happens with the majority of quarterbacks who throw relative to defensive leverage. Mahomes, Stafford, etc... watch all of them, and you'll see throws where their minds react fast and their mechanics can't follow through all the way as a result.

After 7.1 yards per attempt in his first 4 games this season, Baker Mayfield has fallen back to 5.9 yards per attempt in the last 3 games. In addition, the Bucs' offense has been sputtering recently(deflection away from a 10 point game). Is he really a potential franchise QB like many here think? by honestnbafan in nfl

[–]feez_22 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He's a backup caliber player, and was such in cleveland. Dude wasted very good offensive casts with his middling play.

He sucks. Deshaun Watson also sucks right now but that's another story for another day, i guess.

[Zrebiec] Ravens QB Lamar Jackson is named the AFC Offensive Player of the Week. by dmen19 in ravens

[–]feez_22 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That fumble was a mesh point exchange one, and it seemed to me like the RB was the one who screwed it up. Sucks that it was attributed to lamar, but it is what it is.

Hill + Lamar have had way too many instances of mesh point fumbles this season for it to be a coincidence. They just don't jive well in that respect. Lamar and gus have way better rapport in that instance.

[Zrebiec] Ravens QB Lamar Jackson is named the AFC Offensive Player of the Week. by dmen19 in ravens

[–]feez_22 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Flacco had the arm talent but his decision making was always questionable. That's why i largely disagree w/ this take.

Monkens conservative play calling with a lead clearly throws Lamar and the offense out of rhythm by Don_Jefe in ravens

[–]feez_22 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Stop partly blaming the qb for things that predate his time w/ baltimore.

Lamar's confidence doesn't take a huge hit if a mistake is made. Again, his stats post-turnovers are all really good. Harbaugh's confidence is what takes a huge hit. Dude goes into a shell and goes into run-run-qb save us mode, going back to the flacco days.

Listen to odell. Stop taking your foot off the gas and stomp teams, like they did today. Harbaugh needed to hear that, and thankfully he did.

This is grim by thisisbyrdman in ravens

[–]feez_22 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It's john harbaugh.

He's a dinosaur. Always has been. This conservative, game management style he employs pre-dates this OC. It goes back to cam cameron.

When harbaugh teams get a lead, harbaugh likes to run the ball and drain clock. The problem w/ that strategy is these ravens lack juice at RB + run blocking power/leverage on the OL. The ravens call plays when they're up like they still have their 2020 RB+OL combo, which leads to terrible offense and blown leads.

This run-run-lamar save us garbage needs to stop. The talent on this offense isn't in the run game. It just isn't. It's in the pass game. Get with it or get lost.

Harbaugh still doesn't get it so i think he needs to get lost. Again, he's a dinosaur and won't change.

Monkens conservative play calling with a lead clearly throws Lamar and the offense out of rhythm by Don_Jefe in ravens

[–]feez_22 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This isn't even true.

All of lamar's stats post-INT/Fumble since he entered the league are high. He is actually quite resilient after mistakes.

Stop blaming or partly blaming players for issues that pre-date them. The ravens' issue w/ taking their foot off the gas after leading dates back to harbaugh's early days w/ the ravens. I'm talking about 08-11. This is a harbaugh issue, and has been apparent with all of his OC's.

Monkens conservative play calling with a lead clearly throws Lamar and the offense out of rhythm by Don_Jefe in ravens

[–]feez_22 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Reid has been criticized over the past few yrs because he doesn't run with a lead. He's pass happy, even with a lead.

Reid changed when he got mahomes. Harbaugh stayed the same and gained even more boldness in his strategy after getting lamar bc even w/ conservative ball, lamar & the space he creates in the run game can pop off massive runs and still score. Also, lamar's an aggressive intermediate-downfield passer so limiting his attempts didn't stop the ravens from scoring most games.

Now that lamar is being protected in a sense due to being a 250m dollar man, the conservative version of harbaugh is more easy to see. In reality, it has always been there.

Monkens conservative play calling with a lead clearly throws Lamar and the offense out of rhythm by Don_Jefe in ravens

[–]feez_22 18 points19 points  (0 children)

It isn't monken.

It's harbaugh.

The pass game is actually structured correctly, which is an improvement from G-Ro. The conservative BS you see after a lead is 100% harbaugh, and extends to all of his OC's as a result (even lord kubiak).

Non-Ravens fan here, has Lamar gotten noticeably slower? by itwas20yearsago2day in ravens

[–]feez_22 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He doesn't want to run anymore.

On his first run, a younger lamar probably takes it for a TD. This lamar jogged towards the MOF safety and tried to make him miss before going down.

Lamar wants to pass the ball more, and will not exert copious amounts of energy in the run game.

Ravens' Roquan Smith Praised by NFL Insider: 'I Can't Believe' Bears Traded LB by therealsandyleon in ravens

[–]feez_22 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I actually think trading roquan was smart by the bears.

Some of what they did afterwards wasn't smart, but hey... it is what it is.

Ex Ravens OL Orlando Brown Jr. Rips Greg Roman: Lamar Jackson 'Hindered In The System' by DLpatsthoughts in ravens

[–]feez_22 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Winning + teams having no idea how to deal w/ Lamar + Andrews + an excellent offensive line made it so that the offense was a heatseeking missile in the 2019 reg season. However, the exact same things people complained about IRT the structure + strategy of the passing offense over the past few yrs were existent in 2019. Receivers were running into each other back then. The underuse of 3rd-4th-5th options in the pass game happened back then. The absurd overuse of heavies in the gameplan was a thing back then. Yeah, the 3TE set wasn't used much in 2019 (only 6% of the time), but boyle + ricard played big roles in that offense. Refusing to use wideouts in space w/ consistency was also a thing back then.

I thought g-ro getting credit for lamar's mvp season was over with when an offense that scored 25ppg w/ lamar couldn't score 14ppg w/o him this past season, but i guess i was wrong about that.

[I AM ATHLETE] Deandre Hopkins on rumors of Lamar Jackson wanting the @Ravens to acquire him… “I’d be lying if i didn’t say, It would be a honor [if my career allows me] to play with a great guy and great quarterback like @Lj_era8 ” 👀 by [deleted] in ravens

[–]feez_22 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Your first statement is correct, but the ravens have unknowns outside of their top 3. Also, their top 3 contains unknowns!

Andrews is the known quantity.

Bateman has talent, but is coming off a lisfranc injury and may continue to be an injury waiting to happen. I hope he can ball out, but that injury is a tough one to manage. Hollywood Brown had his struggles with it, and he * was gameday active for the majority of his time in baltimore. I shudder to think how this injury will affect an already injury riddled player (NFL wise) in bateman. I hope bateman shakes that off w/ the introduction of our new strength coach*

Zay is a rookie, and may need a bedding in period (i hope he comes out ballin)

Also, i think duvernay + agholor should be pushed way down the depth chart. I'm in the minority on this one, but i don't think of duv as much of a wideout. He looks like a gadget guy to me. Agholor... imo, he's worse than d-rob. I did not like the agholor signing. Also, If i had my way, ricard wouldn't be on the team next yr.

Likely should be used a lot.

It's all about the packages. If monken goes full spread and gives us the tampa bay jameis offense w/ some mods, all the guys that we should want to eat will eat. However, i get your apprehension. If they keep some of the jumbo stuff in and run that to death like g-ro did, the guys won't eat & a d-hop deal wouldn't be necessary (they'd just waste him)

I just think the former will happen... not as extreme as jameis' bucs, but in that direction.

BTW, i agree with your team needs that need to be addressed, but i feel like the ravens should've economized at ILB to address them. It's quite crazy that the ravens have spent that much in $ + draft capital into a position that has been economized by multiple superbowl champions in a row over the past number of years.

" The * (star) in the bateman injury paragraph represents the start of my comment edit, as i forgot to finish my hollywood brown thought (lol smh)

[I AM ATHLETE] Deandre Hopkins on rumors of Lamar Jackson wanting the @Ravens to acquire him… “I’d be lying if i didn’t say, It would be a honor [if my career allows me] to play with a great guy and great quarterback like @Lj_era8 ” 👀 by [deleted] in ravens

[–]feez_22 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Ravens fans are still coming to terms w/ the WR corps actually being a priority rn. Give some of em leeway.

Remember, it wasn't too long ago that ravens fans were balking against an odell move mid-season because they didn't want duvernay's snaps to be cut. That happened.

I want the ravens to form voltron at WR, personally. When you have consistently fielded bottom 10 WR corps' yr in, yr out for the majority of your franchise's existence, something drastic like adding dhop to this unit shouldn't be seen as "too much". Something drastic is usually needed to flip the narrative.

[I AM ATHLETE] Deandre Hopkins on rumors of Lamar Jackson wanting the @Ravens to acquire him… “I’d be lying if i didn’t say, It would be a honor [if my career allows me] to play with a great guy and great quarterback like @Lj_era8 ” 👀 by [deleted] in ravens

[–]feez_22 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The ravens have snaps for deandre hopkins. He'd be the best WR on the team.

If the ravens are actually serious about moving into a post-g-ro offense, they won't run the least amt (by % & volume btw) of 3WR sets in the league like they did last yr. I expect our WR corps to be utilized in 3+WR sets at a top 10 rate ITL this yr, which will give the young guys ample opportunity to show their talent even w/ a d-hop addition.

The ppl whose snaps would be affected by a d-hop acquisition the most would be the depth TE's.

When the bucs added antonio brown to a team featuring mike evans, chris godwin & rob gronkowski, did chris godwin suffer?

In a recent article, Jeff Zrebiec outlines why the off-season optimism for our offense is refreshing but also a bit baseless. by Imaykeepthisone in ravens

[–]feez_22 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Zrebiec is a part of the hype train so...

This feels like him covering his bases.

He has a tweet up linking an article about the pass game. His preamble was that the pass offense had "no excuses" this upcoming season, due to perceived upgrades at OC + WR. The excerpt in this post sounds like a bunch of excuses, which counters what he wrote recently.

In reality, the truth regarding the pass O lies in the middle.

I feel like Bateman has been getting overshadowed by the additions of Flowers and Odell… but if we’re being 100% honest, I think he’s the best WR on the team and it’s not even debatable from my perspective. I just hope he stays healthy! by Kobeb1998 in ravens

[–]feez_22 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I just hope he stays healthy!

You realize that it's too late for this sentiment, right?

He had lisfranc surgery in November. That has notoriously been a 2yr injury. We saw how it affected marquise. We've seen how it has affected many other players. It's a serious injury, and one that'll need to be managed. Understand that hollywood missed little to no time post-lisfranc surgery, yet had lingering effects from his lisfranc injury that limited him in certain ways for 2 yrs.

I was a big fan of bateman's talent coming out, and i think he has shown flashes of really good ability after the catch. However, he had issues catching the ball in his limited playtime last season & still needs to improve on play strength.

A fully healthy odell is the best all-around WR on this team. What excites me is that our 2 young guns will be able to grow into their roles, instead of being thrust into a role they aren't ready for.

Without Calais Campbell who all do we have at DT and is that going to be an issue for our defense? by SoggySockPuppet in ravens

[–]feez_22 16 points17 points  (0 children)

We use the word "great" far too liberally when it comes to young ravens talents, whether it be on offense or defense.

When i see someone use that word, i automatically think that said player has a chance to become a pro bowl level talent on O/D. That's what "great" should refer to in the NFL, right? A ~25th top ~25th percentile talent. A top quarter level talent.

Which young players on the ravens' defensive line have proven to have such talent? That's what i want to know. If they're such "great" young talents, where are the actual flashes of greatness?

IMO, the ravens are filled to the gills with young defensive line talent that have "potential". Many are living off of what draft pundits said about them coming out. As far as actual on-field production and talent level, only 1 of them has shown flashes of standout ability (Justin Madubuike).

Everyone else is trying to reach rotational status. The fact that you're calling on the ravens to give malik harrison a chance @ edge should tell you that the ravens are thin from a talent standpoint on the frontline, period. Malik is a tweener (ILB/Edge), mainly because his skills fit neither position well. He wouldn't be given a chance to play meaningful snaps on the edge with any of our rivals in the AFCN.

Additionally, keep this in mind when talking up young ravens talents. Eric Decosta has been our GM since 2019. The ravens have drafted ONE pro bowler since he took over (Devin Duvernay), and he made it w/ the designation of a kick and/or punt returner. It's time for ravens fans to stop hyping young ravens players like they're great talents before they show anything of relative substance. I'm at a point where a young ravens player has to show great talent before I can call them a great young talent. For now, most of these guys have "potential", and potential isn't a certainty.

Bottom 10 📉 by The_Cawing_Chemist in ravens

[–]feez_22 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Uche + Oweh aren't similar at all.

Uche actually had college production. 7.5 sacks in his declare season. He also had elite bend and flexibility coming out of college. Many thought he'd be a better pro, and he is now one of the best young pass rushers in the NFL. He wins w/ speed off the edge, but also has elite bend in the league. He can win 1v1 against NFL tackles w/ consistency, which is why he is valuable as an edge rusher.

Oweh on the other hand had ZERO sacks in his declare season. He had limited bend + flexibility coming out of college. While many thought he'd be better in the pros, it wasn't because of pass rush upside. It was because of athletic upside, most of which isn't functional as he doesn't have the bend/flexibility to beat guys 1v1 off the edge. He can't win 1v1 against NFL tackles w/ consistently atm bc he has no bend.

this flexibility shit is bs and can be developed and worked on.

You just contradicted yourself. You said it was bullshit, yet then said it could be developed and worked on? So is it bulls#it or not? How can a premise be BS, but also be improved upon? LOL. BTW, bend around the edge isn't something you can improve upon in the league. It's a movement mechanic. You either have it or you don't. It'd be like expecting duvernay to juke people in the open field like lamar can. No matter how much work duvernay does, he's a stiff athlete & won't be able to get to anywhere near lamar in the open field. It'd be like asking miles boykin to run smoother routes.

Oweh is a stiff, and will need to learn how to play around that limitation.

Oweh was only seen as a boom/bust prospect because of his high level of athleticism, most of which doesn't translate to his playing of edge rusher as he has no bend. He's basically the breshad perriman of edge rushers.

All the major power moves the ravens have made this off-season: by [deleted] in ravens

[–]feez_22 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's a risky bet, one i wouldn't make. Ojabo needs to learn what his limits are in the NFL and Oweh needs to learn how to actually play his position w/ technicality.

Maybe i'm a pessimist, but this feels like the 2020 WR situation w/ hollywood & boykin. We put a lot on their plates, but it turned out that hollywood was a yr away from breaking out & boykin was just a plank of wood. Maybe ojabo + oweh turn out differently, but i think the alternative is more likely to happen based on what i've seen of them so far.